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Over all this has been a satisfying 2014 trade deadline for the Sabres. They moved out the pieces they needed to and increased their collection of assets. Now it's just about finishing out the season and on to the draft.

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I was listening to the guys on WGR550 and they are jumping up and down about how great the Sabres and Tim Murray did at the trade deadline. These are the same guys who were ripping Darcy Regier apart for his actions. Regier's trades aren't looking so bad now. Look what he got for Vanek for example. Regier had flaws, but he did acquire a lot of future assets for which he should receive some credit.

 

What trades did WGR rip Regier for recently? IIRC the reception for Gaustad, Pominville, Roy and Vanek were all very well received there. It's the other stuff Regier was ripped for, not the trades.

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trade recap (non biased like others)

 

Miller

Ott

Moulson

Mcnabb

Mccormick

2014 LA 2nd

2015 LA 2nd

2015 3rd

 

for

 

Fasching

Deslauriers

Stewart

2015 1st (STL)

2014 1st (CONDITIONAL STL)

2014 2nd (WPG)

2016 2nd (MIN)

Neuvirth

Klesa

 

 

 

thats our week in trades? (no halak since he was flipped and what we got for him is what we got for miller technically)

Edited by Numark
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Sure they do, when theres little interest in them elsewhere and the team grossly overpays them

Even when the Sabres were decent players overlooked them for bigger market teams. What good FA is going to want to sign a contract with the Sabres this offseason if they have another offer from a better team?

 

The only player I can think of that passed up better teams for a smaller market was Horton going to Columbus

 

Name one besides Horton

 

wasn't that due to ownership and management and not the"market"?

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I was listening to the guys on WGR550 and they are jumping up and down about how great the Sabres and Tim Murray did at the trade deadline. These are the same guys who were ripping Darcy Regier apart for his actions. Regier's trades aren't looking so bad now. Look what he got for Vanek for example. Regier had flaws, but he did acquire a lot of future assets for which he should receive some credit.

 

I will give credit when credit is due and he did do well in the last few trades of his tenure. Problem with Darcy is he wasn't a risk-taker and was never willing to make that big move. The other thing was he really never had an idea on how to build out the team. He got very lucky after the lockout and changing of league rules which benefited the team greatly.

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Again, it's probably best to avoid looking at all of these pieces individually. GMTM is trying to assemble a team that works together, not a list of assets that look good in a spreadsheet.

 

Apparently, GMTM's analysis of what he had concluded that the thing should be stripped down even further than it had been. It hardly gets more bare than it is, so now he has to build it back up.

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Yeah, in that he re-signed with Tampa stating that he liked that he could stay in a non-traditional market.

 

Thanks. I didn't know that he said that when he re-signed.

Posted

I will give credit when credit is due and he did do well in the last few trades of his tenure. Problem with Darcy is he wasn't a risk-taker and was never willing to make that big move. The other thing was he really never had an idea on how to build out the team. He got very lucky after the lockout and changing of league rules which benefited the team greatly.

The bigger problem with Darcy Regier is that all of his trades and free agent signings amounted to jack sh!t. 16 years and couldn't get the job done.

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I was listening to the guys on WGR550 and they are jumping up and down about how great the Sabres and Tim Murray did at the trade deadline. These are the same guys who were ripping Darcy Regier apart for his actions. Regier's trades aren't looking so bad now. Look what he got for Vanek for example. Regier had flaws, but he did acquire a lot of future assets for which he should receive some credit.

Darcy's trade of Vanek to the Islanders was a great trade. You have to give credit where credit is due. Same thing with his trade of Pominville.
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trade recap (non biased like others)

 

Miller

Ott

Moulson

Mcnabb

Mccormick

2014 LA 2nd

2015 LA 2nd

2015 3rd

 

for

 

Fasching

Deslauriers

Stewart

2015 1st (STL)

2014 1st (CONDITIONAL STL)

2014 2nd (WPG)

2016 2nd (MIN)

Neuvirth

Klesa

 

 

 

thats our week in trades? (no halak since he was flipped and what we got for him is what we got for miller technically)

 

And if this list is accurate, they still have the same number of contracts. They shipped away 5 and brought in 5 (4 by trade and the claiming of Conacher).

 

Edit: This list is missing Parker and Mitchell, but that still balances out.

Posted (edited)

trade recap (non biased like others)

 

Miller

Ott

Moulson

Mcnabb

Mccormick

Parker

2014 LA 2nd

2015 LA 2nd

2015 2nd (CONDITIONAL)

2015 3rd

2016 3rd (CONDITIONAL)

 

for

 

Fasching

Deslauriers

Stewart

Mitchell

2015 1st (STL)

2014 1st (CONDITIONAL STL)

2014 2nd (WPG)

2016 2nd (MIN)

Neuvirth

Klesa

 

 

 

thats our week in trades? (no halak since he was flipped and what we got for him is what we got for miller technically)

 

FTFY

Edited by ThirtyEight
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We potentially have 3 first rounders this year and 3 second rounders. 6 picks in the first 60 is pretty nice. Or we have 3 firsts and 3 seconds next year. In one of the next 2 drafts we are going to be brimming with young talent. That is adding potentially 11 first or 2nd round picks over the next 2 years to our prospect pool. If they hit at 50% that means 5-6 nhl players.

 

Add in Zadorov, Ristolainen, Armia? Possler, Baptiste, Compher, Zemgus, Grigs?, McCabe, plus the two guys we just traded for and idk about the rest of you but in 3 years we will have a young team with a ton of talent. I am going to stay hopeful.

Edited by LGR4GM
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Well i have to say i don't think there was more in it for us, if you see what the islanders got for Vanek.

 

Btw good deal by montreal, they can pair him with briere and watch the magic happen.

Posted (edited)

Darcy's trade of Vanek to the Islanders was a great trade. You have to give credit where credit is due. Same thing with his trade of Pominville.

 

No doubt about it. If the Islanders give us there pick this year fine. It will be top 5 and if he defers to next year we might have a chance at another top 5 with Vanek gone. It's obivious snow has no clue to what he's doing!

Edited by SabresBillsFan
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Big picture, if my math is right:

 

Out:

Vanek

Ott

Miller

McNabb

Regehr

McCormick

3rd 2015

 

In:

1st 2015

Conditional 1st 2014

2nd 2014

2nd 2015

2nd 2016

6th 2014

Stewart

Mitchell

Neuvirth

Fasching

DeLauriers

Klesla

 

You're also missing the 2nd/3rd conditional picks we send the blues if they give us a first

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