Koomkie Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 First time creating a thread so bare with me. Our picks are assets. We have a lot of young talent in the pipeline. We can also assume we will gain more picks before march 5th. For not only this year, but the next few years. Would you be okay with our sabres sending out offer sheets as a way to acquire some talent that is a little further along ...to help speed up the rebuild. We have so much cap space, so many picks, and more players that can bring in more picks. Who would you consider offer sheeting. Who do you think we could actually get?
Eleven Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 I'm definitely ok with the concept but I think I want to see the full RFA list this summer before becoming more specific.
deluca67 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 First time creating a thread so bare with me. Our picks are assets. We have a lot of young talent in the pipeline. We can also assume we will gain more picks before march 5th. For not only this year, but the next few years. Would you be okay with our sabres sending out offer sheets as a way to acquire some talent that is a little further along ...to help speed up the rebuild. We have so much cap space, so many picks, and more players that can bring in more picks. Who would you consider offer sheeting. Who do you think we could actually get? It all depends on the player. You don't have to go the offer sheet route for good young talent that is more NHL ready. You just have to be prepared when that player becomes available. Kessel, Neal, Seguin , van Riemsdyk and Ryan are all examples of quality young talent that was available. You just need a GM capable of making the deal.
Koomkie Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Posted January 18, 2014 I would trade our Ufas this year for picks in the 2015 and 2016 draft to have some leverage. Then hopefully we suck enough to land McDavid/Eichel. And the follow Rfa season send out an insane offer sheet on available players. As soon as someone like mackinnon is available.... (could be dreaming) I would give up the next four 1st rounders to offer him a crazy contract that avs won't match. It would just be a good time in two or three years to overpay and grab a great player to join our prospects It all depends on the player. You don't have to go the offer sheet route for good young talent that is more NHL ready. You just have to be prepared when that player becomes available. Kessel, Neal, Seguin , van Riemsdyk and Ryan are all examples of quality young talent that was available. You just need a GM capable of making the deal. true. I guess I'm having a hard time deciding what the best value for our picks would be. Murray seems to focus on trying to draft well first. And with our massive draft / prospect research team it might be better to just draft and trade. But it would be nice to get some good prospects that are a little further along
dudacek Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 After the 2015 draft I'd be all over this for the right guy. We'll have so many young guys coming we'll need to be selling some off anyway. May as well go big.
deluca67 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 I would trade our Ufas this year for picks in the 2015 and 2016 draft to have some leverage. Then hopefully we suck enough to land McDavid/Eichel. And the follow Rfa season send out an insane offer sheet on available players. As soon as someone like mackinnon is available.... (could be dreaming) I would give up the next four 1st rounders to offer him a crazy contract that avs won't match. It would just be a good time in two or three years to overpay and grab a great player to join our prospects true. I guess I'm having a hard time deciding what the best value for our picks would be. Murray seems to focus on trying to draft well first. And with our massive draft / prospect research team it might be better to just draft and trade. But it would be nice to get some good prospects that are a little further along Drafting is just one aspect. It helps a great deal if your team can draft well. It's just one egg in one basket. Building a Championship team is about balance. IMO, it was Regier;s failure to understand what true balancewas that caused his downfall. Right now Tim Murray is in the process of taking inventory. He has UFAs, RFA's, and a quickly approaching trade deadline he has to be prepared for. IMO, value of the UFAs will help dictate the direction Murray will go this off-season. I'm sure he would love to re-sign Miller, Ott and Moulson. Teams at the top of the standings tend to look at teams like Buffalo who have players that have futures in question to fill their needs. Miller is more a specialized need with possibly a hand full of suitors. Ott and Moulson are two players every team with an eye towards the Cup will be taking a serious look at.
grinreaper Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 First time creating a thread so bare with me. Our picks are assets. We have a lot of young talent in the pipeline. We can also assume we will gain more picks before march 5th. For not only this year, but the next few years. Would you be okay with our sabres sending out offer sheets as a way to acquire some talent that is a little further along ...to help speed up the rebuild. We have so much cap space, so many picks, and more players that can bring in more picks. Who would you consider offer sheeting. Who do you think we could actually get? I will not "bare" with you. I'm not that kind of guy. I will "bear" with you though. :rolleyes:
Stoner Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 First time creating a thread so bare with me. For your first thread, that's an awfully bold gambit. But, OK, I will. Do you Skype? Seriously, create more threads. God knows we need some fresh takes around here. I will not "bare" with you. I'm not that kind of guy. I will "bear" with you though. :rolleyes: Ho Ho!
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 Looks like this thread needs to be redirected to the "abuse thereof" thread.... We need more people getting bare around here...... I think....
spndnchz Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 The picks need to be your own. Just sayin'.
Drunkard Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 Normally I'd be fine with offer sheeting a stud RFA but not at this time given our place in the standings. I agree with dudacek and waiting until after the 2015 draft before I before I put this option back on the table.
Hoss Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 The picks need to be your own. Just sayin'. Oui oui
bunomatic Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 I agree with Drunkard on this one . When your team is last place overall and looking at a few more years at last or thereabouts those 4 1st round picks are obviously more valuable than if you were a contending team making the same offer sheet. Therefore I wouldn't be doing an offer sheet for anyone just yet. I'd rather have those 4 high first round picks to develop or use as trade bait in another deal.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 When was the last time a significant offer sheet actually worked? Seems teams always match for their valuable players, and if you're not going after a top player, there's no reason to use an offer sheet anyway.
MattPie Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 The picks need to be your own. Just sayin'. OK, OK, bare with us. ;)
IKnowPhysics Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 I'd rather have those 4 high first round picks to develop This. Offer sheets are expensive to execute because of the compensatory picks, assets you don't want to spend if the plan is to rebuild through the draft. If anything, you want teams to offer sheet some of your guys, so that you can collect more picks if you don't want to match. Think we match an offer sheet from Edmonton for Vanek right now (even considering his age back then)? Maybe not.
Derrico Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 With us having a legit shot at a top 5 pick in a loaded draft in 2015 there is no way I'm giving that pick away. As was already said, it has to be your own pick you lose and not one you traded for.
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