Patty16 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 2:41 PM, SwampD said: Also, one less goal every four games might just be the difference in winning or losing a seven game series. On 2/6/2014 at 2:43 PM, FolignosJock said: Yeah also his math is pretty flawed Yup its why teams send scouts to games...... and don't just use nhl.com to determine if they like a player. Quote
FolignosJock Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 2:50 PM, Patty16 said: Yup its why teams send scouts to games...... and don't just use nhl.com to determine if they like a player. I like how he uses the save pct like it wouldn't change drastically with far less shots. Also his PK save % is incredible when you look at how many shots he has faced man down Quote
Stoner Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 2:27 PM, LGR4GM said: The question that writer should be asking himself is who he wants in Net for the Playoffs. Does he want some guy who might have a .850% game and allow 5 goals on 25 shots? Or does he want a guy who will always give you .916% on a decent team? I think Miller would help the caps a lot. Miller vs. Flyers in playoffs, 2011 1. 1.000 2. .853 3. .880 4. 1.000 5. .923 6. .898 7. .857 (pulled) Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:01 PM, PASabreFan said: Miller vs. Flyers in playoffs, 2011 1. 1.000 2. .853 3. .880 4. 1.000 5. .923 6. .898 7. .857 (pulled) And how about Holtby... or the Neuvirth? What do their playoff stats look like? Quote
Stoner Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:06 PM, LGR4GM said: And how about Holtby... or the Neuvirth? What do their playoff stats look like? AngryEleven, beet red courtesy phone, AngryEleven… Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:11 PM, PASabreFan said: AngryEleven, beet red courtesy phone, AngryEleven… Fine I will just go look them up myself. Holy Sh!t this place has sand in their ########## ###### ######## ###### today. Quote
darksabre Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:18 PM, LGR4GM said: Fine I will just go look them up myself. Holy Sh!t this place has sand in their ########## ###### ######## ###### today. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Okay it appears that according to the Sv% for playoffs Miller according to the Stats is not better than the one Washington Netminder. Holtby's last playoff series - .922% Neuvirth's last playoff series - .912% Miller's last playoff series - .917% On 2/6/2014 at 3:21 PM, d4rksabre said: FOR ASKING A ###### QUESTION? I just WANTED To know what WASHINGTONS STATS WERE BY GAME. HOLY HELL. Edited February 6, 2014 by LGR4GM Quote
Assquatch Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) On 2/6/2014 at 3:27 PM, LGR4GM said: Okay it appears that according to the Sv% for playoffs Miller according to the Stats is not better than the one Washington Netminder. Holtby's last playoff series - .922% Neuvirth's last playoff series - .912% Miller's last playoff series - .917% FOR ASKING A ###### QUESTION? I just WANTED To know what WASHINGTONS STATS WERE BY GAME. HOLY HELL. Probably more for the "holy ###### this place has sand in its ######" but what do I know? It might have been for asking a question. Edited February 6, 2014 by Assquatch Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:28 PM, Assquatch said: Probably more for the "holy ###### this place has sand in its ######" but what do I know? this place does. Quote
Assquatch Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:29 PM, LGR4GM said: this place does. Maybe. But pointing it out is what got you the crybaby face. Not the question you asked and you know it. Quote
Claude_Verret Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) On 2/6/2014 at 2:36 PM, Patty16 said: That's the problem with so called hockey guys who rely on "advanced" statistics like this writer did. Miller isn't worth it because of his analysis of save %?? This precisely what TM said when he joined, that he doesnt really use those kind of stats and they are for people with less hockey knowledge. When it comes to save % you have to account for quality of shots too. Miller is getting bombarded and is still playing his best in years, save % or not. But I guess when you dont know what you're seeing on the ice, you rely on stats. Those weren't advanced stats, analytics, #fancystats or whatever you wish to call them, Miller is a goner, and despite the axe some posters have to grind with the guy, he is beyond good enough to take a well balanced team to a Stanely Cup. Period. We will be left in tank mode and hopefully will be able to find another goalie who is also good enough to take us to the promised land when the rest of the team comes together. Will his pads be filled easily or will it be a case of not knowing what you've got til it's gone? We shall see. Edited February 6, 2014 by Claude_Verret Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:30 PM, Assquatch said: Maybe. But pointing it out is what got you the crybaby face. Not the question you asked and you know it. Yup and D4RK still didn't help ###### by doing that so who cares. Someone open the dam complaint thread already... maybe that will help. Quote
darksabre Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:27 PM, LGR4GM said: Okay it appears that according to the Sv% for playoffs Miller according to the Stats is not better than the one Washington Netminder. Holtby's last playoff series - .922% Neuvirth's last playoff series - .912% Miller's last playoff series - .917% FOR ASKING A ###### QUESTION? I just WANTED To know what WASHINGTONS STATS WERE BY GAME. HOLY HELL. Just ribbing you :P Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:32 PM, d4rksabre said: Just ribbing you :P ... grumpy Liger is grumpy. :censored: Quote
Stoner Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBaPplviA8o Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ZqdSBjHtA also its Thursday and not being able to complain is pissing me off... so I am complaining about not being able to complain... :unsure: Quote
Ross Rhea Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:31 PM, Claude_Verret said: Those weren't advanced stats, analytics, #fancystats or whatever you wish to call them, Miller is a goner, and despite the axe some posters have to grind with the guy, he is beyond good enough to take a well balanced team to a Stanely Cup. Period. We will be left in tank mode and hopefully will be able to find another goalie who is also good enough to take us to the promised land when the rest of the team comes together. Will his pads be filled easily or will it be a case of not knowing what you've got til it's gone? We shall see. Here is something no one has brought up yet. If RM is sooo good why haven't the Dallas Stars come calling yet? You would think Lindy, who knows RM extremely well, would be all over that if he thought RM was the answer. Dallas is only 5 points out of 6th place, surely RM would put them into the playoffs and carry them to the cup, right! Why hasn't RM to the Dallas Stars happened yet? Quote
dudacek Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Because Dallas is a mediocre team that has a long way to go to be a contender? Quote
apuszczalowski Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 4:04 PM, BocceBall said: Here is something no one has brought up yet. If RM is sooo good why haven't the Dallas Stars come calling yet? You would think Lindy, who knows RM extremely well, would be all over that if he thought RM was the answer. Dallas is only 5 points out of 6th place, surely RM would put them into the playoffs and carry them to the cup, right! Why hasn't RM to the Dallas Stars happened yet? How do you know they haven't? how do you know Ruff and the Stars wouldn't love to have him but aren't able to give the Sabres what they want for him? Quote
Ross Rhea Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) On 2/6/2014 at 4:23 PM, apuszczalowski said: How do you know they haven't? how do you know Ruff and the Stars wouldn't love to have him but aren't able to give the Sabres what they want for him? My thinking is if LR and the Stars wanted him that bad, there would have been a done deal by now. If RM really is all that, and LR thinks likewise, RM would have been a Star along time ago. The Stars would have given Buffalo what they wanted. On 2/6/2014 at 4:12 PM, dudacek said: Because Dallas is a mediocre team that has a long way to go to be a contender? You mean like Washington, NY Islanders, or Minnesota? Edited February 6, 2014 by BocceBall Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 2:50 PM, Patty16 said: Yup its why teams send scouts to games...... and don't just use nhl.com to determine if they like a player. Statements like this drive me absolutely batshit crazy. Can you find me a single credible analytics person who has advocated the elimination of scouting? A year or so ago I linked an article about James Neal in Pittsburgh, and how the Pens combined internal analytical measures with extensive scouting to figure out the best places to get Neal the puck and how to get him there. That is how analytics are supposed to be used, and are used. So please, let's stop the strawman arguments. Quote
Assquatch Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 4:04 PM, BocceBall said: Why hasn't RM to the Dallas Stars happened yet? Because every time a coach changes teams, everyone knows he has his GM trade for every star player on his old team. If he doesn't, that player isn't as good as everyone says. Quote
X. Benedict Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:01 PM, PASabreFan said: Miller vs. Flyers in playoffs, 2011 1. 1.000 2. .853 3. .880 4. 1.000 5. .923 6. .898 7. .857 (pulled) Whoa!.......if he's un-trade-able and average, it might be better to re-sign him for average money. Quote
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 6:04 PM, TrueBluePhD said: Statements like this drive me absolutely batshit crazy. Can you find me a single credible analytics person who has advocated the elimination of scouting? A year or so ago I linked an article about James Neal in Pittsburgh, and how the Pens combined internal analytical measures with extensive scouting to figure out the best places to get Neal the puck and how to get him there. That is how analytics are supposed to be used, and are used. So please, let's stop the strawman arguments. Like I said....you write too well to be Schopp........ :) Quote
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