GM Speculation

[Derrico]

Hopefully the new GM understands that he doesn't have to spend just to spend. Gotta be smart. No more Leino contracts.

 

Yep I agree with this. Every article I read says the Sabres have to spend X just to get to the cap floor next season and they therefore have tons of space to not only pick up a couple of free agents but to also re-sign their veterans on expiring contracts, namely Moulson, Miller and Ott. I do not want them giving someone like Moulson a 6 year 6.5 mil per contract just because we have the cap space to do it. Have to be smart about these signings.

[beerme1]

i keep reading everywhere that we have to spend to floor minimum which may be difficult without just giving money to crap like Leino plus another steaming pile of crap similar to Leino or just give Moulson 9 mil etc etc. I dont agree with this.

The only reason you have to spend the floor is to get team revenue sharing. That is what has increased ticket prices the last few years and food and beers etc.

The way I see it as Terry doesn't need the revenue share we can be smart and maybe skip a year on the spending. They cant put another ticket increase on for next year after what they have provided the last two years and expect another down year.

He tried to do the right thing and fit in with the rest of the league and keep revenue sharing which was smart. I think it may be smart to pass on it next year. Unless we do go out and grab a bunch of over priced free agents which I wouldn't be to surprised at either because I am expecting massive turnover in this team.

[LGR4GM]

i keep reading everywhere that we have to spend to floor minimum which may be difficult without just giving money to crap like Leino plus another steaming pile of crap similar to Leino or just give Moulson 9 mil etc etc. I dont agree with this.

The only reason you have to spend the floor is to get team revenue sharing. That is what has increased ticket prices the last few years and food and beers etc.

The way I see it as Terry doesn't need the revenue share we can be smart and maybe skip a year on the spending. They cant put another ticket increase on for next year after what they have provided the last two years and expect another down year.

He tried to do the right thing and fit in with the rest of the league and keep revenue sharing which was smart. I think it may be smart to pass on it next year. Unless we do go out and grab a bunch of over priced free agents which I wouldn't be to surprised at either because I am expecting massive turnover in this team.

I am fairly certain it is mandatory to spend to the cap floor in the CBA.

[shrader]

I am fairly certain it is mandatory to spend to the cap floor in the CBA.

 

Right, the floor is $16 million below the cap and teams are required to fall somewhere between those two numbers. If the team is so worried about hitting that number next year, they could always use a regular buyout for a Stafford/Leino type instead of the compliance buyout. The ramifications would be very short term for Stafford as he only has one year left, but they won't go that route with Leino. He has too many years left.

[Hoss]

i keep reading everywhere that we have to spend to floor minimum which may be difficult without just giving money to crap like Leino plus another steaming pile of crap similar to Leino or just give Moulson 9 mil etc etc. I dont agree with this.

The only reason you have to spend the floor is to get team revenue sharing. That is what has increased ticket prices the last few years and food and beers etc.

The way I see it as Terry doesn't need the revenue share we can be smart and maybe skip a year on the spending. They cant put another ticket increase on for next year after what they have provided the last two years and expect another down year.

He tried to do the right thing and fit in with the rest of the league and keep revenue sharing which was smart. I think it may be smart to pass on it next year. Unless we do go out and grab a bunch of over priced free agents which I wouldn't be to surprised at either because I am expecting massive turnover in this team.

 

Another reason there is a floor is so teams can't just exist for the sole purpose of money. It forces teams to at least try to be competitive or spend dumb. Leino might be kept for one more year because of the floor.

[beerme1]

Well that all makes sense and I'm not into the CBA but first of all I just want to say thanks fo not just posting YOU'RE AN IDIOT! :rolleyes:

But why have we heard about revenue sharing in the past then? And they justified ticket increase to reach the level of sharing? I guess that was in th eold cba? And with a hard floor that no longer exists then?

[26CornerBlitz]

Pierre LeBrun of ESPN held an online chat today:

 

Q: The better GM gig is in Calgary or Buffalo? I would include the NY Isles but we all know Garth Snow will be GM for as long as Wang is the owner...

 

Pierre LeBrun: Buffalo. More coming up the pipe. Calgary has very little in the organization. Plus Sabres have the first-round pick from the Vanek deal.

[Taro T]

Well that all makes sense and I'm not into the CBA but first of all I just want to say thanks fo not just posting YOU'RE AN IDIOT! :rolleyes:

But why have we heard about revenue sharing in the past then? And they justified ticket increase to reach the level of sharing? I guess that was in th eold cba? And with a hard floor that no longer exists then?

Teams need to be doing all they can to increase their own revenues to get full shares of revenue sharing. Not sure if the details of the current cba criteria are on this site, but the details from the last 1 definitely are. The search function is your friend.

 

The new cba is similar to the old one except now big market teams doing poorly can qualify whereas they were formerly excluded from being eligible.

[Derrico]

Another reason there is a floor is so teams can't just exist for the sole purpose of money. It forces teams to at least try to be competitive or spend dumb. Leino might be kept for one more year because of the floor.

 

I think any compliance buyout must be done by this summer. Therefore they either buy him out and that's that or he stays the full length of his contract. I don't think they can just keep him one more year.

[Taro T]

I think any compliance buyout must be done by this summer. Therefore they either buy him out and that's that or he stays the full length of his contract. I don't think they can just keep him one more year.

They can, but they don't get any preferential treatment towards the cap at that point. So they most likely wouldn't.

[Derrico]

They can, but they don't get any preferential treatment towards the cap at that point. So they most likely wouldn't.

 

I guess they could but how dumb would it be to pay out the contract and still have a huge cap hit for someone not even playing. Either use the compliance buyout (which they should) or ride out the remaining three or four years or whatever it is.

[26CornerBlitz]

Calgary, Buffalo GM searches going in different directions

 

By: Ken Campbell on December 13, 2013

 

In their respective searches for new GMs, it looks as though Pat LaFontaine of the Buffalo Sabres and Brian Burke of the Calgary Flames are taking opposite approaches.

 

According to sources, LaFontaine is casting a wide net and interviewing lots of candidates before making any decisions. Burke, on the other hand, appears eager to get this done quickly and has zeroed in on a small group, one reportedly headed by former Dallas Stars GM and Flames star Joe Nieuwendyk.

[bunomatic]

Calgary, Buffalo GM searches going in different directions

 

I think Pattys direction is the prudent one. Burke will imo be looking for a yes man as he is the alpha in the room no question with his big personality. No matter what he says he will be in charge of what goes on in Calgary and I find it hard to believe he wouldn't meddle in some way with his guys decisions. I just can't see him giving up that power to an underling. Who knows maybe he will ? Patty can take his time and find the right guy capable of doing the job without too much interference.

[26CornerBlitz]

I think Pattys direction is the prudent one. Burke will imo be looking for a yes man as he is the alpha in the room no question with his big personality. No matter what he says he will be in charge of what goes on in Calgary and I find it hard to believe he wouldn't meddle in some way with his guys decisions. I just can't see him giving up that power to an underling. Who knows maybe he will ? Patty can take his time and find the right guy capable of doing the job without too much interference.

 

Calgary Flames President of Hockey Ops Brian Burke joins NHL Live to discuss the decision to relieve Jay Feaster and John Weisbrod of their duties

 

Tend to agree with you after listening to Burke.

[deluca67]

Pierre LeBrun of ESPN held an online chat today:

 

Q: The better GM gig is in Calgary or Buffalo? I would include the NY Isles but we all know Garth Snow will be GM for as long as Wang is the owner...

 

Pierre LeBrun: Buffalo. More coming up the pipe. Calgary has very little in the organization. Plus Sabres have the first-round pick from the Vanek deal.

That sounds oddly familiar.

[26CornerBlitz]

Flames' Burke vs. Sabres' LaFontaine in GM search

 

During Saturday's matinee at First Niagara Center, the spotlight will be on Michael Cammalleri and Mark Giordano, Ryan Miller and Matt Moulson.

The biggest battle between the Buffalo Sabres and Calgary Flames, however, isn't being waged on the ice.

 

It's Brian Burke vs. Pat LaFontaine.

 

Once a star centre for the Sabres, LaFontaine is still settling into his new role as president of hockey operations in upstate New York, with the need to find a GM to replace recently-fired Darcy Regier undoubtedly atop his to-do list.

 

Burke launched a talent search of his own Thursday, firing Flames GM Jay Feaster and insisting he wouldn't dilly-dally in his efforts to fill the empty office.

 

“There's another team doing a search,” Burke said. “Time could be of vital essence here.”

 

Now that Burke and LaFontaine are competing for candidates, here are five hockey minds who have been mentioned in the rumour mill as possibilities in both cities ...

[26CornerBlitz]

@TSNSimmer

Joe Nieuwendyk is out!!! Look for Dave Poulin to be the next GM, of the Cgy Flames!!! @TSN1200

[WildCard]

@TSNSimmer

Joe Nieuwendyk is out!!! Look for Dave Poulin to be the next GM, of the Cgy Flames!!! @TSN1200

Well, that was quick. I expect the Sabres to quicken the pace a little bit, but they won't be so hard-pressed now that the Flames competition is gone

[nfreeman]

@TSNSimmer

Joe Nieuwendyk is out!!! Look for Dave Poulin to be the next GM, of the Cgy Flames!!! @TSN1200

 

It's worth remembering that Burke has been on the scene in Calgary for over 3 months, so he's had plenty of time to evaluate Calgary's needs and put together a short list of GM candidates.

[shrader]

 

 

It's worth remembering that Burke has been on the scene in Calgary for over 3 months, so he's had plenty of time to evaluate Calgary's needs and put together a short list of GM candidates.

 

Not to mention his years of experience. He is no doubt far more familiar with most of the people out there.

[Two or less]

Not to mention his years of experience. He is no doubt far more familiar with most of the people out there.

 

Not to mention Burke hired Poulin in 2009 as the Leafs vice-president of hockey operations.

[26CornerBlitz]

‏@RogMillions

@friedgeHNIC says Flames have permission to talk to Bruins Asst. GM Jim Benning about GM position. No Surprise here.

[Weave]

So that Dave Poulin tweet was a bit premature, eh?

[26CornerBlitz]

So that Dave Poulin tweet was a bit premature, eh?

 

A tad bit it would appear. :)

[bunomatic]

‏@RogMillions

@friedgeHNIC says Flames have permission to talk to Bruins Asst. GM Jim Benning about GM position. No Surprise here.

 

I guess its no real surprise when the Bruins play the same style Burke covets.