Hoss Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 We're last in the league. We should trade the entire team within the division. :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: Quote
Trettioåtta Posted January 14, 2014 Report Posted January 14, 2014 I'll take Robin Lehner :P sadly i think Murray's first born is an easier target Quote
Two or less Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 Speaking of Ottawa... This was hockey prospectus' breakdown of the top 10 prospects of Ottawa's at the beginning of the year. http://www.hockeypro...?articleid=1572 If I trade with Ottawa I am taking a long hard look at RW Mark Stone... RW is the biggest cluster #### right now on the Sabres. I know we don't need a d-men, but Fredrik Claesson seems to be one of their top prospects. He's been excellent in AHL last two seasons. Also, no idea how legit this guy is, but he is followed by some legit media... @mayorNHL 5h Obviously no deal made yet... but our sources say the one name heavily discussed by #LAKings mgmt in the last 48 hrs is #Sabres Matt Moulson https://twitter.com/mayorNHL Quote
Hoss Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 I know we don't need a d-men, but Fredrik Claesson seems to be one of their top prospects. He's been excellent in AHL last two seasons. Also, no idea how legit this guy is, but he is followed by some legit media... https://twitter.com/mayorNHL This guy is legit. He has broken a few LA moves including the Carcillo deal this summer. Quote
inkman Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) This guy is legit. He has broken a few LA moves including the Carcillo deal this summer. Moulson for Jordy Nolan and a 1st (e4) Edited January 15, 2014 by inkman Quote
Trettioåtta Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 Moulson for Jordy Nolan and a 1st (e4) We have their second for the next two years Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Report Posted January 15, 2014 LA has RW Valentin Zykov... he could be a part of any deal. Quote
apuszczalowski Posted January 17, 2014 Report Posted January 17, 2014 We have their second for the next two years Well then it only seems right to re-unite them with their first round pick too......... Quote
kas23 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 You know, say what you want about how horrible Darcy was and I'll agree, but this trade was pure genius. It's like the gift that keeps giving. In fact, I would even argue that Darcy, while he couldn't build a team if his life depended on it, was very competent in dismantling them. He's really set Murray up for success. Teams thinking about rebuilding should really look to hiring Darcy as a team-destruction specialist. Quote
nucci Posted January 20, 2014 Report Posted January 20, 2014 We may see an Ottawa trade but depending on who it is, I'm always a little leery about trading within the division. The divisions have more teams in them now. You are limiting your options considerably. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Vogl reports that the Islanders are looking to move Vanek. http://www.buffalonews.com/columns/john-vogl/for-rent-sign-goes-up-for-islanders-vanek-20140202 Quote
CallawaySabres Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Vogl reports that the Islanders are looking to move Vanek. http://www.buffalone...-vanek-20140202 What a horrible, horrible deal by the Isle - ouch Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 What a horrible, horrible deal by the Isle - ouch Word is Vanek turned down an 8 year offer from the Isles. No shocker there. Quote
FolignosJock Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 What a horrible, horrible deal by the Isle - ouch I would seriously picket the arena if our GM made a deal like this. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 They have an option on which pick we get, right? It's probably been discussed at length elsewhere, but it is now dawning on me that the Islanders have an interesting dilemma: Surrender a potentially high pick this year in a relatively weak draft, or surrender a pick of unknown quality in a very good and deep draft in 2015? If they go the route of the former, they take heat for giving up a lottery-eligible pick. If they go the route of the latter, they risk losing a terrifically valuable asset and risk acknowledging that they don't think they'll be very good next year either. Quote
FolignosJock Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 They have an option on which pick we get, right? It's probably been discussed at length elsewhere, but it is now dawning on me that the Islanders have an interesting dilemma: Surrender a potentially high pick this year in a relatively weak draft, or surrender a pick of unknown quality in a very good and deep draft in 2015? If they go the route of the former, they take heat for giving up a lottery-eligible pick. If they go the route of the latter, they risk losing a terrifically valuable asset and risk acknowledging that they don't think they'll be very good next year either. Exactly but they cant give us someone elses pick so they are hosed either way Quote
nfreeman Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 What a horrible, horrible deal by the Isle - ouch Well, it really depends on what they get for Vanek relative to what the Sabres get for Moulson, innit? They have an option on which pick we get, right? It's probably been discussed at length elsewhere, but it is now dawning on me that the Islanders have an interesting dilemma: Surrender a potentially high pick this year in a relatively weak draft, or surrender a pick of unknown quality in a very good and deep draft in 2015? If they go the route of the former, they take heat for giving up a lottery-eligible pick. If they go the route of the latter, they risk losing a terrifically valuable asset and risk acknowledging that they don't think they'll be very good next year either. Indeed. Right now they are 5th-worst in the NHL. It's hard to see them giving the #5 pick in the draft to the Sabres -- but it's quite easy to see them keeping the pick and then stinking again next season, resulting in the Sabres having, say, 2 of the top 5 picks in that draft. Quote
apuszczalowski Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Biggest mistake in that deal for Snow was including Moulson in it It made no sense for him to do that, he basically gave up picks to slightly upgrade Moulson on the team. Picking up Vanek was a good idea, but they should not have done it at the expense of getting rid of Moulson, unless Snow forgot to have the Sabres to include Miller in the deal... Quote
Derrico Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Wow, if they trade Vanek they really should finish bottom 5 (I hope!). Please defer the pick, please defer the pick, please.... Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 Garth Snow :unsure: @StapeNewsday Sources: Thomas Vanek turns down Isles contract offer http://bit.ly/LHBfWG Quote
Johnny DangerFace Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 It's going to be interesting what they get for him. We'll see who is the winner if this trade shortly Quote
dudacek Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 They might be able to partly make it up in a Vanek trade, if they get a Pominville sized return - then it would be like trading Moulson for Larsson and Hackett. But even then, they won't be getting back as high a first-rounder as they gave up. Snow gambled on his team being better than it is, gambled on being able to convince Vanek to stay and gambled on the league's weakest goaltending. Not a good bet. Quote
Robviously Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Posted February 3, 2014 What a horrible, horrible deal by the Isle - ouch If we can't flip Moulson by the deadline, it's not a great deal for us either unfortunately. If the Isles get something good for Vanek, they can basically come out even. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 It's true what others are saying: They now have what is arguably the best seller's asset on the deadline market. I wonder if they'll look to get a 2015 first rounder as part of a deal for Vanek, which would take the sting out of granting their 2015 pick to the Sabres. Quote
Koomkie Posted February 3, 2014 Report Posted February 3, 2014 It's true what others are saying: They now have what is arguably the best seller's asset on the deadline market. I wonder if they'll look to get a 2015 first rounder as part of a deal for Vanek, which would take the sting out of granting their 2015 pick to the Sabres. this is my guess. also, even if we dont trade moulson, we can still sign him. which i think still puts us in the win column. Quote
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