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Vanek Traded to NYI for Matt Moulson, 1st in 2014 (or 2015!), 2nd in 2015; 4 Months Later: Moulson to MN for 2014/2016 2nd Rounders


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Imagine if they defer to next year and then have some wacky tank season...

 

and we finish last, the isles second to last and we STILL don't win the lottery and lose out on McDavid.

 

Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now......

 

And Moulson or whatever we get for him.

Posted

and we finish last, the isles second to last and we STILL don't win the lottery and lose out on McDavid.

 

 

 

And Moulson or whatever we get for him.

 

Trying to lockup the vote for most popular poster I see. :lol:

Posted

I think I read somewhere the pick for this year would be 10-25, so maybe this means we have the power to defer as well. If the pick is that low. Idk, wishful thinking probably. Could you imagine next years draft(2015) with 2 firsts and 3 seconds

Posted

Isles have some pick protection:

@Real_ESPNLeBrun

So it's Isles' option to either have Buffalo pick this year or next if it's top 10. A little insurance for Isles

 

Hmmmmm, that's not great. Although if the pick ends up being around 9 or 10 I would almost hope they defer to next season.

Posted

So we root for the bottom to fall out and they finish last the next two years, right? (Or close to)

Or...they do well and you just traded Vanek for the 28th and 58th picks 2 years from now......

A MAN CAN DREAM!

Posted

Isles will not be in the top ten though. I guess the logic is that if they are in the top ten for some reason they think Vanek won't want to re-up with them and will want to finish his career with a winner.

Posted

 

And Moulson or whatever we get for him.

 

Sure...

 

How come these details don't get released at the time of the trade? That's a pretty key point. If the Islanders are on the upswing and just miss the playoffs this year, and the west continues their domination over the east, NY could very well have the 8th-10th pick in 2014.

 

There is a HUGE difference between getting the #9 in 2014 or the #23 in 2015....which is a very possible outcome.

 

Isles will not be in the top ten though. I guess the logic is that if they are in the top ten for some reason they think Vanek won't want to re-up with them and will want to finish his career with a winner.

 

BINGO!!!

 

What happens if Snow sees the Isles as a coinflip to even get into the playoffs at the deadline, they trade Vanek, recoup a 1st and 2nd in 2014....then get to defer their pick to 2015? Did Snow get Snowed then?

 

This bit of info is a huge piece that was left out. The Islanders have tons of options now. If they are in it solidly...keep plugging and you gave up a #15-20. If something goes bad, they just moved up a year on a 1st and 2nd round draft pick.

 

Yes Moulson is in there as well....but who knows what happens there. I'm assuming he is worth a 2nd if traded give or take.

 

By the way...the Isles are 1 point out of having the #7 pick today......

Posted

Meh - it takes a little shine off of what seemed like a peach of a deal for the Sabres.

 

And if Moulson can continue to do his best Dave Andreychuck [sic?] impersonation, we should see at least another mid-/late-1st rounder out of this deal as well.

Posted

This seems worse every time another detail emerges.

I have almost no confidence in the Islanders finishing in the bottom ten of the league with Vanek there. So we're pretty much guarunteed 10-20 pick, which is where I thought we'd end up anyways.

 

Besides, even if we do have to swap for 2015 because they finish bottm 10, they'll be even worse next year (as they're built right now) so we could end up getting an even better pick.

Posted (edited)

Top 10 As of Yet-Unannounced Additional Unpleasant Addendums to the Vanek-Moulson Trade

 

10. Sabres must use second-round pick on still another player whose last name is a major brand of beer

 

9. Islanders receive all net proceeds of "Shields vs. Snow, The Rematch" on PPV

 

8. Butch Goring gets to use Vanek's "Around the World" move on his wife (swirl, not twist, at the end)

 

7. Tartar sauce only approved condiment at First Niagara Center concession stands

 

6. Pegula to pay Wang $100 million cash or certain "wang photos" will be released to TMZ

 

5. Billy Smith gets to butt-end Ron Rolston — one time, but he's going to make it good

 

4. .....

 

Help.

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