darksabre Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 At this point we know what Thomas Vanek is as a hockey player. He's got the scoring touch but can't be relied on to take a game over. He's kinda slow, doesn't forecheck, but is also strong on the puck when he does have it. Unfortunately I don't think he's ever had line mates that really complement his game. So I put it to you. Build a line for Thomas. Use current team rosters if you want. Fit him into a lineup or find some players to play on the first line with him here. Who would maximize Thomas's potential?
HopefulFuture Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Ship him out, the sooner the better for the return. Let the tank and rebuild continue........
Drunkard Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I'm all for moving Vanek since I don't think there's any chance he'll re-sign at this point but before he gets shipped out I'd like to see a line of Vanek Grigorenko Foligno. I'd like to see what kind of playmaking abilities Girgorenko could make happen by playing with a guy who can actually put the puck in the net and Foligno would be a good compliment with his physicality and abilty to muck it up in the corners and in front of the net. They'd probably be disastrous defensively but I'd roll the dice on it just to see what happens.
qwksndmonster Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 On our team? Hodgson and Foligno it seems right now would be the best linemates. In the league? Having a Dustin Brown type winger on the right side and a legit top line center and Vanek hits 50.
Robviously Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I assume you're talking about guys on our team, so here goes: His center should be Hodgson (for his passing) and he needs a RW to rocket into the corners, dig the puck out, and get it back to either him or Hodgson. That should be Girgensons, Foligno, or Larsson.
deluca67 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 At this point we know what Thomas Vanek is as a hockey player. He's got the scoring touch but can't be relied on to take a game over. He's kinda slow, doesn't forecheck, but is also strong on the puck when he does have it. Unfortunately I don't think he's ever had line mates that really complement his game. So I put it to you. Build a line for Thomas. Use current team rosters if you want. Fit him into a lineup or find some players to play on the first line with him here. Who would maximize Thomas's potential? Ott at center and Foligno on the opposite wing.
qwksndmonster Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Ott at center and Foligno on the opposite wing. Would certainly open up the most space for Vanek, but after watching Ott play with Hodgson and Vanek in the beginning of the season, I don't want to see him on the top line again any time soon.
Hoss Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Ott isn't a center and never has been. He said himself that he has rarely played center in his NHL career. He's a faceoff guy.
qwksndmonster Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Ott isn't a center and never has been. He said himself that he has rarely played center in his NHL career. He's a faceoff guy. If Rolston is playing Foligno at center, he probably wouldn't think twice about putting Ott at pivot.
sicknfla Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I would rather discuss what we think we could get in return for him. Who he plays with now or in the future is irrelevant. Sooner the better. The question should be who do you want to see as Cody's linemates? That is the question that matters. Who will be the two guys that bring the most out of him? I think he picks up on Vaneks laziness.
Hoss Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 If Rolston is playing Foligno at center, he probably wouldn't think twice about putting Ott at pivot. If Ott was going to play center, he would've done it by now. I would rather discuss what we think we could get in return for him. Who he plays with now or in the future is irrelevant. Sooner the better. The question should be who do you want to see as Cody's linemates? That is the question that matters. Who will be the two guys that bring the most out of him? I think he picks up on Vaneks laziness. Yes.
darksabre Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 Feel free to fit him into other team lineups as well. I'm looking for who everyone thinks are his ideal linemates. This is less about reality/trade proposals as it is meant to be a fun experiment in player evaluation by fans.
Hoss Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Feel free to fit him into other team lineups as well. I'm looking for who everyone thinks are his ideal linemates. This is less about reality/trade proposals as it is meant to be a fun experiment in player evaluation by fans. As far as my Moulson and Tavares idea, there are so many ways to go about a trade proposal for Vanek. I'd do Vanek for Strome straight up. Vanek for Nelson, a 1st and 3rd. Sundstrom, Nelson and a pick. Prospects the Islanders have that I would want: Ryan Strome, Brock Nelson, Johan Sundstrom, Kirill Kabanov, Taylor Cammarata.
darksabre Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 As far as my Moulson and Tavares idea, there are so many ways to go about a trade proposal for Vanek. I'd do Vanek for Strome straight up. Vanek for Nelson, a 1st and 3rd. Sundstrom, Nelson and a pick. Prospects the Islanders have that I would want: Ryan Strome, Brock Nelson, Johan Sundstrom, Kirill Kabanov, Taylor Cammarata. I don't care about trades.
Hoss Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I don't care about trades. I don't care about lines on other teams. I don't really get this thread then. I'll just say put him on a line with Crosby and Malkin. The end. Maybe we should just create one giant thread of Vanek and Miller FANTASY speculation (stuff that we just make up) and one giant thread of potential rumors involving them that come from sources/articles. That way to avoid semi-pointless threads like this.
darksabre Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 I don't care about lines on other teams. I don't really get this thread then. I'll just say put him on a line with Crosby and Malkin. The end. Maybe we should just create one giant thread of Vanek and Miller FANTASY speculation (stuff that we just make up) and one giant thread of potential rumors involving them that come from sources/articles. That way to avoid semi-pointless threads like this. I'm sorry you don't understand the concept. This is about finding the best accompaniment for Vanek. I'd expect posters here to be smart enough to look beyond "oh just put him with Kane and Toewes". I know, trying is hard. I don't want ###### trade talk diluting what could be a nice exercise.
Randall Flagg Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Vanek, Backes, Tarasenko? Just popped into my head, don't know much about Tarasenko though
shrader Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 I guess this exercise is over. I do enjoy the subplot of someone who has tried to police this board from the minute he joined.
Weave Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 vanek-tavares-okposo Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 I'm sorry you don't understand the concept. This is about finding the best accompaniment for Vanek. I'd expect posters here to be smart enough to look beyond "oh just put him with Kane and Toewes". I know, trying is hard. I don't want ###### trade talk diluting what could be a nice exercise. Sorry. I just really felt an itch. I just HAD to talk about Vanek on the Islanders.
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