X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Bill Hoppe @BillHoppeNHL Tim Murray said it's most likely the #Sabres take Bennett, Reinhart or Draisaitl. No surprise. Sounds like Ekblad is the consensus number one. Murray will take Ekblad if Florida doesn't. Quote
Hoss Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Sounds like Ekblad is the consensus number one. Murray will take Ekblad if Florida doesn't. He prefaced what I posted with the fact that he believes Ekblad will go number one no matter who has the pick. Quote
Eleven Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Sounds like Ekblad is the consensus number one. Murray will take Ekblad if Florida doesn't. He'd better not unless Ekblad can play center. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 He'd better not unless Ekblad can play center. I'm right there with you. Quote
MattPie Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 He'd better not unless Ekblad can play center. The only caveat is if he immediately trades for a center, but I doubt anyone is going to give up a prospect of Bennet/Reinhart/etc. caliber in a trade. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 The only caveat is if he immediately trades for a center, but I doubt anyone is going to give up a prospect of Bennet/Reinhart/etc. caliber in a trade. There's the rub. Even if he pulls off a trade, how likely is it to be for a legit 1st line player/prospect? It's so rare I have trouble feeling even remotely comfortable with an Ekblad pick. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Tim Murray Interview (6/19/14) <3:58> Tim Murray speaks with Brian Duff following Murray's pre NHL Draft press conference. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 He'd better not unless Ekblad can play center. I would imagine if Ekblad is there at 2 we are trading down to 3. That being said Murray will draft Ekblad I think if he is available. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 Tim Murray press conference (6/19/14) <22:59> Sabres GM Tim Murray speaks to the media at FNC in advance of the June 27 NHL Draft. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 The scouting reports are what you see. His skating is really the only reason he's not my first choice. Give me Reinhart, although I wouldn't be upset with Bennett. Heck, I wouldn't be upset with Draisaitl either, but he's not my first choice. I don't think he's a bad skater. He's got excellent control. Maybe not blazing fast, but he has deceptive speed. I just love how he protects the puck as he moves through space. He looks like Jumbo Thornton, who's also not fast, when protecting the puck. In the corners he reminds me of a young Forsberg. I wouldn't be disappointed with him at all. I think he's got an NHL game. Reinhart would be hard to pass on though. it's a win either way. thanks for these. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 NHL Draft Statistics: The OHL and WHL Big Board Editor’s Note: The following is a guest post from Travis Flynn. Travis has done tremendous research on scoring numbers of prospects in the OHL and WHL and the correlation to their success as NHLers in Recent NHL Drafts. If you are a fan of statistical posts, you will want to check out this post, and see what Travis’ Research says about this years’ NHL Draft prospects. We at LWOS are very grateful for Travis’ time on this. The Start is an introduction to how he developped his big board, followed by the board it self, and then most interesting of all some conclusions we can draw from it. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 NHL Draft Statistics: The OHL and WHL Big Board If he is correct Reinhart, Bennett, and Draisaitl are all worthy picks at the top of the draft and better then a good bunch of guys taken at the top of some previous drafts. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 19, 2014 Report Posted June 19, 2014 @BuffaloSabres VIDEO: #Sabres GM Tim Murray on @NHLNetwork this evening to discuss the team's offseason plans http://goo.gl/TPFrLA Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 @BuffaloSabres VIDEO: #Sabres GM Tim Murray on @NHLNetwork this evening to discuss the team's offseason plans http://goo.gl/TPFrLA What is your philosophy on drafting goalies? Murray - "Wait until the 7th round and draft the biggest Swede or Finn you can." :lol: Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 What is your philosophy on drafting goalies? Murray - "Wait until the 7th round and draft the biggest Swede or Finn you can." :lol: Gotta Love TM's sense of humor. Quote
HopefulFuture Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 One of Reinhart or Ekblad will be a Sabre come this June 27th. Of that I have little doubt. If it is Ekblad, this organization has a massive pool of assets to bring that elusive elite forward to town. But in so far as this draft, those 2 are the BPA's for the 1 and 2 spots in most consensus. That being the case, I'm happy with either one and I trust GM TM will make the appropriate moves in the next 12 months, including the 15 draft, to secure the teams long term core in an effort to be a Cup contender, not just a force in the Eastern Conference. Quote
Hoss Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 So do we think Murray has already made a decision or has a solid order of guys set? A lot of former execs say they don't make any real decisions until the beginning of draft week. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 anyone else thinking Draisatl after listening to Murray's recent interviews? he keeps bringing up big bodies who can score Quote
Hoss Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 anyone else thinking Draisatl after listening to Murray's recent interviews? he keeps bringing up big bodies who can score I think he's targeting that in a trade for another first. Quote
HopefulFuture Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 I think he's targeting that in a trade for another first. This is where I am at. Edmonton and Calgary are on most radars for that player. I'm not so sure on that, maybe the 5th to 8th selection? What do you think with all the chatter, is it possible he falls past 5? Quote
Hoss Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 This is where I am at. Edmonton and Calgary are on most radars for that player. I'm not so sure on that, maybe the 5th to 8th selection? What do you think with all the chatter, is it possible he falls past 5? No, I think Draisaitl will go top five. But guys like Ritchie, Barbashev, Tuch and Perlini. Barbashev isn't "big" but he plays like it. Quote
HopefulFuture Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 So do we think Murray has already made a decision or has a solid order of guys set? A lot of former execs say they don't make any real decisions until the beginning of draft week. I think the Sabres know it's either going to be Reinhart or Ekblad and I also believe they have gone over scenarios to utilize assets to get elite talent in the forward ranks by using assets, including potentials from this draft. No, I think Draisaitl will go top five. But guys like Ritchie, Barbashev, Tuch and Perlini. Barbashev isn't "big" but he plays like it. Well, I know it's been beaten to death, But if he really wants to make a move back up in the top 5 to grab Draisaitl, I'd be inclined to believe Myers is on the table then. Just my opinion though. As for getting the other players you mention, I know TM loves his big bodies, but dam, I sure do like that Ehlers kid. That speed, oh that speed. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) If he is correct Reinhart, Bennett, and Draisaitl are all worthy picks at the top of the draft and better then a good bunch of guys taken at the top of some previous drafts. Agreed. If I understand any of this and if those numbers mean anything, Draisaitl compares to Nail Yakupov and Sam Bennett compares to Steven Stamkos. Bennett and Reinhart are substantially close, with the difference presented hear because Reinhart did a little more of his scoring on special teams. Dal Colle looks like Nathan Horton with a hair more scoring on special teams. I don't know if there's a pro-CHL bias when selecting top picks, but the stats at the very top presented here fall in favor of the CHL- the only WHL'er in the top 11 is RNH. If there's a reason for this, it may speak in favor of selecting Bennett (CHL) over Reinhart (WHL). Edited June 20, 2014 by IKnowPhysics Quote
dudacek Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 anyone else thinking Draisatl after listening to Murray's recent interviews? he keeps bringing up big bodies who can score I think he's targeting that in a trade for another first. Yeah, he specifically made the "Sabres type player" remark in reference to trading back up into the teens. I think the model for Sabres type player is going to be Girgs — smart guys who play with edge. So Barbashev may very well be the target. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted June 20, 2014 Report Posted June 20, 2014 Poile is open to moving the 11th pick for a top six forward. Stafford or Stewart and the 31st or 39th (and maybe swap 3rds?). I'm as tired of the trade Stafford talk as anyone, but he's reinvigorated his value somewhat with 21 points in his last 28 games, a 61 points pace on a terrible, terrible team. Quote
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