TrueBlueGED Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 That's honestly one of the more pathetic things I've ever heard when it comes to athlete training. My first reaction was "that can't be right"...I wasn't exactly an elite athlete in high school and I could do some pull ups. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 So Sam Bennett couldn't manage 1 pull up at the combine. Not saying that necesarrily matters but it tells me he has a lot of strength and conditioning training to do this summer. That's honestly one of the more pathetic things I've ever heard when it comes to athlete training. http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=4&id=622708&lang=en Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 My first reaction was "that can't be right"...I wasn't exactly an elite athlete in high school and I could do some pull ups. Yea, raised an eyebrow here. Quote
X. Benedict Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 So Sam Bennett couldn't manage 1 pull up at the combine. Not saying that necesarrily matters but it tells me he has a lot of strength and conditioning training to do this summer. Not 1? That's news. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 Not 1? That's news. I'm damn near three times as old as Bennett and I can do twelve in a set. Not even one is shocking to me for a world class athlete. @BillHoppeNHL Sam Bennett said he met with the #Sabres for a half an hour this week. "I think it went really well." #Buffalo Quote
Eleven Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 http://video.oilers....=622708&lang=en WOW. I don't want him anymore. Quote
rakish Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 It'd be nice to have pull-up numbers to see how they correlate. Quote
SwampD Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 WOW. I don't want him anymore. I don't know. If he's this good without proper training, imagine how good he'll be with a strength and conditioning coach. Just a thought. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) It'd be nice to have pull-up numbers to see how they correlate. This is the 1st time that pullups have been part of fitness testing at the NHL combine. Pullups were added in place of pushups. Edited May 31, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Quote
Eleven Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 I don't know. If he's this good without proper training, imagine how good he'll be with a strength and conditioning coach. Just a thought. This is the 1st time that pullups have been part of fitness testing at the NHL combine. Pullups were added in place of pushups. An able-bodied 18 year old man should be able to do one pull-up. The fact that he cannot means that he is not fit. I don't care if it's the first time he's ever tried one. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 Kinda wanna know what Reinhart did. Haven't seen his interview pop up yet. Quote
Robviously Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 So Sam Bennett couldn't manage 1 pull up at the combine. Not saying that necesarrily matters but it tells me he has a lot of strength and conditioning training to do this summer. Watching Kings-Blackhawks last night and hearing this news this morning is not a good combination. If you want to win the Cup, you need to be able to bulk up, be strong, and impose your will on other men. Is Sam Bennett going to be able to do that? Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 An able-bodied 18 year old man should be able to do one pull-up. The fact that he cannot means that he is not fit. I don't care if it's the first time he's ever tried one. No argument from me. Not a single one? That's pretty bad. I still think he's a dynamic talent, but certainly has some work to do in the strength department. Fortunately, at 18 years old he has plenty of time with a good regimen of diet and exercise. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 I don't know. If he's this good without proper training, imagine how good he'll be with a strength and conditioning coach. Just a thought. That's how I'm choosing to look at it. I hope this doesn't get blown out of proportion, but I will say that I don't care how much he trains over the summer, if we draft him I don't want him anywhere near the NHL. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 COMBINE TESTING | Aaron Ekblad <3:30> Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Watching Kings-Blackhawks last night and hearing this news this morning is not a good combination. If you want to win the Cup, you need to be able to bulk up, be strong, and impose your will on other men. Is Sam Bennett going to be able to do that? I have to agree. But in all fairness I don't care if the kid was a workout freak if it doesn't translate on the ice. U can workout and be super physically fit but if u can't play then u can't play. Not defending the kid but Kane doesn't look he is this super workout guy. Kane's other assets set him apart from other bigger stronger players. Obviously this is an eye opener for the kid and for whatever team drafts him. Edited May 31, 2014 by SabresBillsFan Quote
Eleven Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) No argument from me. Not a single one? That's pretty bad. I still think he's a dynamic talent, but certainly has some work to do in the strength department. Fortunately, at 18 years old he has plenty of time with a good regimen of diet and exercise. Then for his sake and ours, I hope the Oilers have a good training staff. Edited May 31, 2014 by Eleven Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 Top prospects Bennett and Kapanen survive Combine Forwards Samuel Bennett of the Ontario Hockey League's Kingston Frontenacs and Kasperi Kapanen of KalPa in Finland's SM-liiga certainly had their share of good and bad moments during the fitness stage of the 2014 NHL Scouting Combine at Toronto International Centre on Saturday. The good news is that both blue chip prospects completed all the required tests in the morning. The bad news is they each "lost it" after undergoing the grueling VO2 Max bike test that measures the endurance capability of a player's heart, lungs and muscles. "The bikes were interesting," Bennett said. "I didn't really hear the people shouting at me too much. I was more focused on my burning legs. I guess they were there to motivate and it helped a little. "I didn't hold down my breakfast too well." Quote
deluca67 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 This is the 1st time that pullups have been part of fitness testing at the NHL combine. Pullups were added in place of pushups. Unless pull-ups are replacing the shootout I really couldn't care less. If the Sabres don't draft Bennett I'd like to see the kid fall to #4 and the Calgary Flames. I think a combination of Bennett and Monahan is solid start to a rebuild in Calgary. Quote
shrader Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 Top prospects Bennett and Kapanen survive Combine I'm under the impression that basically everybody throws up after the VO2 max. Every description I've ever heard is brutal. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 I'm under the impression that basically everybody throws up after the VO2 max. Every description I've ever heard is brutal. Wouldn't surprise me if that is true: @TSN1050Radio Intense! #NHLCombine http://instagram.com/p/oq-zQfjp7L/ Head of NHL Central Scouting Dan Marr speaks to Jack Michaels at the Scouting Combine in Toronto. <4:29> Quote
ubkev Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 I don't think the pull up thing is a big deal. The kid is fast, has a great shot and he scores goals. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 ICYMI on the SabreSpace Main Page, this is a good article that provides insight into Murray's philosophy on how to build a team: Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray aiming to rebuild roster through upcoming NHL draft So while most outsiders are fixated on the top-4 in this draft, Buffalo Sabres general manager Tim Murray, who has the No. 2 overall pick, said his team’s success depends more on what he does with the three selections in the second round. “The way to rebuild is to draft well so that you can trade well and then you use free agency to put you over the top,” said Murray. “If you can hit on a couple of seconds and a couple of thirds, you might be able to trade for that real good player down the road.” Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 ICYMI on the SabreSpace Main Page, this is a good article that provides insight into Murray's philosophy on how to build a team: Buffalo Sabres GM Tim Murray aiming to rebuild roster through upcoming NHL draft I am fairly certain we discussed the lack of ability for the Oilers to select players beyond round 1, which is the exact reason they perpetually suck. The Pens have been having a similar problem lately. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Posted May 31, 2014 @BillHoppeNHL A quick story on Sam Bennett's inability to do a simple pull-up, why it doesn't matter + his chat w/the #Sabres http://tinyurl.com/klgwhhn Quote
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