Nail Yakupov rumored to sabres

[MattPie]

:huh:

What?

 

Just making a joke. Or a bad pun, really, with Yak/Yuk.

[Marvelo]

As for trading Myers, Uncle Terry is going to have to eat a lot of his contract to get Baby Huey out of town. Ask Arte Moreno how much he had to pay the Yankees to take Vernon Wells off the Angels' hands.

 

Follow that up with eating other big-budget contracts who aren't producing: Stafford, Leino, Ehrhoff and Miller...glad Uncle Terry thinks that money is no object because he just blew tens of millions of dollars on these players who don't live up to their contacts.

 

And the worst thing is that the Sabres have to live with these big mistakes on a daily basis because management is letting them hang around and fester.

 

Note the Red Sox getting rid of $250 mil in one day...but you need good management for that.

[BuffaloBorn]

I wouldn't give too much in return for this guy Yak and certainly not a first round draft pick the way Yak has been playing. worst +/- in the NHL so I heard, I don't know if that's still true. 3 pts.Really ? do we need a guy like that. Also heard he's not exactly coaches pet. Grigs actually has better stats in less games with a better +/- and was selected 12. What a world. *Correction Yakupov has FOUR points in 17 with a +/- of -14. Grigs is three in 15 and is only -3. I'd rather have Grigorenko at this point.

[TrueBlueGED]

I wouldn't give too much in return for this guy Yak and certainly not a first round draft pick the way Yak has been playing. worst +/- in the NHL so I heard, I don't know if that's still true. 3 pts.Really ? do we need a guy like that. Also heard he's not exactly coaches pet. Grigs actually has better stats in less games with a better +/- and was selected 12. What a world. *Correction Yakupov has FOUR points in 17 with a +/- of -14. Grigs is three in 15 and is only -3. I'd rather have Grigorenko at this point.

 

Perhaps you should consider last season as well.

[BuffaloBorn]

Perhaps you should consider last season as well.

True he had a solid rookie season. So did Tyler Myers. And Tyler Myers isn't exactly a flight-risk to the KHL

[darksabre]

True he had a solid rookie season. So did Tyler Myers. And Tyler Myers isn't exactly a flight-risk to the KHL

 

Well duh. Myers would get to the airport and just spend a lot of time looking around, finally figuring out what gate he has to go to as his flight is leaving.

[dEnnis the Menace]

Well duh. Myers would get to the airport and just spend a lot of time looking around, finally figuring out what gate he has to go to as his flight is leaving.

 

:lol:

[BuffaloBorn]

Well duh. Myers would get to the airport and just spend a lot of time looking around, finally figuring out what gate he has to go to as his flight is leaving.

haha.. To be fair I'm sure Yak will pan out if EDM sticks with him. It's been a small sample size BUT I still wouldn't want him unless it was for cheap because IMO he is very high-risk even though he clearly has talent---that has yet to be seen this season

[inkman]

Note the Red Sox getting rid of $250 mil in one day...but you need good management for that.

No. You need a buffoon led organization to trade with. Magic Johnson is an imbacil. They got one good player, Gonzalez and a couple of horrendous contracts. That would be like trading Myers, Stafford and Leino all to the same team for a couple of prospects. Not only could no NHL team take on those contracts, no one would.

[TrueBlueGED]

Is there anything to back up the claim Yakupov is a flight risk other than you using his nationality to make an assumption?

[Eleven]

No. You need a buffoon led organization to trade with. Magic Johnson is an imbacil. They got one good player, Gonzalez and a couple of horrendous contracts. That would be like trading Myers, Stafford and Leino all to the same team for a couple of prospects. Not only could no NHL team take on those contracts, no one would.

 

Come on, man; you can't do that.

[BuffaloBorn]

Is there anything to back up the claim Yakupov is a flight risk other than you using his nationality to make an assumption?

I've read through various forums, oilers forums, oilers forum sites, hockeyscouting web-sites hearing the same thing. "Yakupov has no future in the NHL unless he changes his game". Also hear he doesn't play the coaches system and kind of does his own thing (kinda stubborn) I figured if a representation of the entire hockey community and coming from Oilers fans directly, there's gotta be some truth to it. Also there was a quote from him that I'm sure is in this thread about him (paraphrasing) -not liking to play with out the puck -not liking to skate -does not like like to hit/backcheck/forecheck because it's "not his game" Coming from the mans mouth. That's very telling IMO whether it was a translation error or something I don't know I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.... But here I'd say 90% of Oilers nation have "critical" opinions of him rightly so, Yakupov to be playing for the KHL is a reasonable and common fear because he was a #1 pick but is not completely out of question, The amount of Russian players in the league has dropped dramatically since 2003. Now I think there's only 22 or so active Russian players. So yes nationality CAN be a telling factor which is why drafting a North American player isn't considered so risky nowadays.(Nikolay Zherdev 4th overall Russian player plays in KHL for example). I'd say 80% of Oilers fans from 2 different oilers affiliated sites are looking to trade him, brain-storming trade scenarios etc. *And no sir, it was not me nor anyone who are using his nationality unfairly against him. I've heard/read sseevverrall rumors and talks, there's some truth to stereotypes like for example...... players of Russian nationality who don't play well in the NHL are more likely to revert to the KHL or other European league to prosper. There's some precedent

[TrueBlueGED]

I've read through various forums, oilers forums, oilers forum sites, hockeyscouting web-sites hearing the same thing. "Yakupov has no future in the NHL unless he changes his game". Also hear he doesn't play the coaches system and kind of does his own thing (kinda stubborn) I figured if a representation of the entire hockey community and coming from Oilers fans directly, there's gotta be some truth to it. Also there was a quote from him that I'm sure is in this thread about him (paraphrasing) -not liking to play with out the puck -not liking to skate -does not like like to hit/backcheck/forecheck because it's "not his game" Coming from the mans mouth. That's very telling IMO whether it was a translation error or something I don't know I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.... But here I'd say 90% of Oilers nation have "critical" opinions of him rightly so, Yakupov to be playing for the KHL is a reasonable and common fear because he was a #1 pick but is not completely out of question, The amount of Russian players in the league has dropped dramatically since 2003. Now I think there's only 22 or so active Russian players. So yes nationality CAN be a telling factor which is why drafting a North American player isn't considered so risky nowadays.(Nikolay Zherdev 4th overall Russian player plays in KHL for example). I'd say 80% of Oilers fans from 2 different oilers affiliated sites are looking to trade him, brain-storming trade scenarios etc. *And no sir, it was not me nor anyone who are using his nationality unfairly against him. I've heard/read sseevverrall rumors and talks, there's some truth to stereotypes like for example...... players of Russian nationality who don't play well in the NHL are more likely to revert to the KHL or other European league to prosper. There's some precedent

 

So you've got nothing concrete? That's what I thought. Rumors, talks, Zherdev, some fake statistic about 22 active Russian players, and so on. You've reduced it to "he's Russian, and failed Russians go to the KHL"...which, so what? If a player leaves because they're a failure, that's not the same thing as being a flight risk.

[SwampD]

Is there anything to back up the claim Yakupov is a flight risk other than you using his nationality to make an assumption?

So you've got nothing concrete? That's what I thought. Rumors, talks, Zherdev, some fake statistic about 22 active Russian players, and so on. You've reduced it to "he's Russian, and failed Russians go to the KHL"...which, so what? If a player leaves because they're a failure, that's not the same thing as being a flight risk.

It's not just him. It's actual scouts and people involed with teams who are worried.

http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22134-nail-yakupov-rumored-to-sabres/page__st__240?do=findComment&comment=520567

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

 

 

Come on, man; you can't do that.

 

Yeah, it's a virus, not a bacteria.

[TrueBlueGED]

It's not just him. It's actual scouts and people involed with teams who are worried.

http://forums.sabres...240#entry520567

 

I see one single, solitary quote from a Western scout in all of that insinuating flight risk, and even then it's pending demotion to the AHL. Everything else is pure speculation, or talking about him not figuring out how to play in the NHL. Again, flaming out of the NHL and going to the KHL afterwards is not the same thing as bolting when you're a viable NHL player. Flight risk implies the latter, which is why I think there's nothing really indicating he is a flight risk.

[dudacek]

I wonder how much the Sabres' brass worry about Girgorenko being a flight risk.

As you say, so much of this is based on stereotypes and speculation.

But that doesn't mean it isn't affecting management's decision-making process.

[beerme1]

I wonder how much the Sabres' brass worry about Girgorenko being a flight risk.

As you say, so much of this is based on stereotypes and speculation.

But that doesn't mean it isn't affecting management's decision-making process.

 

With Darcy having ot srewed it up last year and RR screwing it up this year I believe the Sabres might be happy if the kid bailled on them to play over there for a couple years while we retain his rights. But, I do not see that happening with him. He does not want to play KHL hockey,

[inkman]

I wonder how much the Sabres' brass worry about Girgorenko being a flight risk.

As you say, so much of this is based on stereotypes and speculation.

But that doesn't mean it isn't affecting management's decision-making process.

What's the risk? ;)

 

Come on, man; you can't do that.

:doh:

[bunomatic]

Yaketty yak complaining about icetime. Says he deserves more. Do we really want this guy ? If he was lights out offensively on fire we could put up with a headcase but really. What has he done offensively to ignore all the negative ? I know he's young give him time.

[TrueBlueGED]

Yaketty yak complaining about icetime. Says he deserves more. Do we really want this guy ? If he was lights out offensively on fire we could put up with a headcase but really. What has he done offensively to ignore all the negative ? I know he's young give him time.

 

He was great as a rookie last year, but he sucks at defense and Eakins is all about two way play. Buy low!

[Huckleberry]

Edmonton will only sell high, but they'll panick really hard when we take eckblad in the draft before them :D

[HopefulFuture]

Edmonton will only sell high, but they'll panick really hard when we take eckblad in the draft before them :D

 

That is what I'm thinking as well. Sell the Eckblad to Buffalo with the 1st overall hard in the media prior to the draft.

Then, extort them with this offer: Yak and the 2nd overall pick for our 1st overall :)

[sicknfla]

Edmonton will only sell high, but they'll panick really hard when we take eckblad in the draft before them :D

 

We won't have to take him. If we are at 1 and they are 2 or 3 we would have all the negotiating power to make them move up. I would not be surprised that DR is not factoring that into any trade scenario.

 

I see Edmonton holding onto him through this year. Then if they need to have ammo to get to 1 they could put him into a deal. Not saying DR even wants him but if you come out of the draft with Reinhart and Yak you have some potential offense. Let's say flip 1 and 2 and Yak for Stafford and their pick of Myers or Hoff. I think that deal would get done and would work for both teams. Depends how bad they want Eckblad.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

Yaketty yak complaining about icetime. Says he deserves more. Do we really want this guy ? If he was lights out offensively on fire we could put up with a headcase but really. What has he done offensively to ignore all the negative ? I know he's young give him time.

He sounds like poison in the locker room. If he were the next coming of Stamkos or Pavel Bure, we should think about it. But he sounds like an entitled, arrogant primadonna pampered child. I say pass.