papazoid Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Posted October 27, 2013 now on pace for 32 points. dead last in league standings. two nearest teams have 4 (NYR) & 3 (PHI) games in hand. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Early hasek year teams where far worse. I havent seen this team be pinned in their zone for 3 consecutive shifts. Only difference is this team doesnt have a hasek to make them entertaining This team is the worst possession team in the league. So if you haven't seen them pinned for three straight shifts, either you haven't been paying attention, or it actually hasn't happened but will. I'm pretty sure the first period of the Vancouver game had this happen. Edited October 27, 2013 by TrueBluePhD Quote
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 This team is the worst possession team in the league. So if you haven't seen them pinned for three straight shifts, either you haven't been paying attention, or it actually hasn't happened but will. I'm pretty sure the first period of the Vancouver game had this happen. #TortsWinning Quote
wjag Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 I think we can ALL agree that this is the worse FIRST PERIOD team in history of the Sabres and maybe the NHL. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 With no vanek now, our scoring may drop from an already amazing 1.3 PPG maybe moulson makes up a little, but I think our offensive may suffer a bit Quote
Iron Crotch Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Looking at the team stats on NHL.com paints a pretty grim picture. We're worst in the NHL in shots per game (25.1 - no one else is even close to that level of futility) and 2nd worst in shots against per game (35.7 - only Ottawa is worse). Our team +/- is at -15 (only the Rangers are worse at -16). What is interesting is statistically we're a much worse team at home (-13) than on the road (-2). Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 When the game is tied, the Sabres' even strength fenwick for percent is 37.2%...dead last in a league, a full 5 points behind 29th place (Rangers at 42.2%). When trailing, this jumps to 48% (29th in the league, inexplicably ahead of Detroit). So yea, the whole "they were so good in the 3rd, why can't they do it all the time!" is clearly just the other team taking the foot off the gas. I think most of us knew this, but there may have been a few holdouts left :P Quote
nfreeman Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 When the game is tied, the Sabres' even strength fenwick for percent is 37.2%...dead last in a league, a full 5 points behind 29th place (Rangers at 42.2%). When trailing, this jumps to 48% (29th in the league, inexplicably ahead of Detroit). So yea, the whole "they were so good in the 3rd, why can't they do it all the time!" is clearly just the other team taking the foot off the gas. I think most of us knew this, but there may have been a few holdouts left :P Aha! Victory! Does this mean you are coming around to the correct view on our other disagreements? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Aha! Victory! Does this mean you are coming around to the correct view on our other disagreements? Are you confusing me with someone else? At least this season I've never taken the position that our third period competitiveness is anything more than the other team going into Alamo mode. PS: I'm still waiting for you to come around on the whole Rick Nash is a superstar close to Crosby thing. Any time now :P Quote
ubkev Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Are you confusing me with someone else? At least this season I've never taken the position that our third period competitiveness is anything more than the other team going into Alamo mode. PS: I'm still waiting for you to come around on the whole Rick Nash is a superstar close to Crosby thing. Any time now :P Who's Rick Nash? Quote
nfreeman Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Are you confusing me with someone else? At least this season I've never taken the position that our third period competitiveness is anything more than the other team going into Alamo mode. PS: I'm still waiting for you to come around on the whole Rick Nash is a superstar close to Crosby thing. Any time now :P Well, I've never put Nash on par with Crosby, who is in a class by himself in this generation IMHO. I continue to think Nash is a much better player than Vanek, Heatley, Gaborik and other snipers of that ilk -- and I expect you'll see him playing a big role again for the Canadian Olympic team. It's also worth noting that he played last year for a pretty defensive-minded coach in Tortorella and has been hurt this year. As for the Sabres' 3rd period competitiveness, I think it's of a piece with the "key saves at key times" and "no goals by the top 6 in the 2nd and 3rd periods of a 7-game playoff series" debates that we've had. I'll look forward to your capitulation. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 Well, I've never put Nash on par with Crosby, who is in a class by himself in this generation IMHO. I continue to think Nash is a much better player than Vanek, Heatley, Gaborik and other snipers of that ilk -- and I expect you'll see him playing a big role again for the Canadian Olympic team. It's also worth noting that he played last year for a pretty defensive-minded coach in Tortorella and has been hurt this year. As for the Sabres' 3rd period competitiveness, I think it's of a piece with the "key saves at key times" and "no goals by the top 6 in the 2nd and 3rd periods of a 7-game playoff series" debates that we've had. I'll look forward to your capitulation. I know you didn't say Nash was on Crosby's level, just some friendly chiding :) As far as capitulation goes, never! I simply don't think score effects on how teams play is even remotely the same thing as "clutchness" which I believe is what you're getting at. Quote
nfreeman Posted October 28, 2013 Report Posted October 28, 2013 I know you didn't say Nash was on Crosby's level, just some friendly chiding :) As far as capitulation goes, never! I simply don't think score effects on how teams play is even remotely the same thing as "clutchness" which I believe is what you're getting at. I appreciate the chiding -- I think my response sounded more uptight than I intended. I was indeed getting at "clutchness." But I think it's the flip side of the notion that it's easier to produce when the other team has taken its foot off the gas -- i.e. it's harder to produce when the pressure is at its highest and the other team is giving the max. I've got time to wait for you to come around... Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 I appreciate the chiding -- I think my response sounded more uptight than I intended. I was indeed getting at "clutchness." But I think it's the flip side of the notion that it's easier to produce when the other team has taken its foot off the gas -- i.e. it's harder to produce when the pressure is at its highest and the other team is giving the max. I've got time to wait for you to come around... I agree it's harder to produce when the other team is giving its max--I just think that's more dependent upon the score than the period. This is the clash that doesn't end, it just goes on and on my friend... (Yes, I hate myself for that last bit) Quote
That Aud Smell Posted October 29, 2013 Report Posted October 29, 2013 the guys who blog about hockey for cbs (cbs!!!) are my favorites. this piece is a good one. http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24156319/buffalo-sabres-taking-long-road-to-rebuild-but-right-one it's a longer read than i anticipated. the paragraph that caught my eye: What makes the Sabres rebuild so much more interesting is that this looks like it is going to be one that first begins with stripping the club down to the studs and almost starting from scratch. It is the kind that is long and painful, but it may be the only thing Buffalo has left to try and build an eventual contending team. I don't know that we've seen anything quite like it in the salary cap era. Quote
Jsixspd Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 When is the last time the Sabres didn't have a single home ice win in the first month of the season? The Sabres were winless at home in October with 8 home games, and Monday's loss was the final home game of October. Quote
papazoid Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Posted October 31, 2013 sabres now on pace for 30 points. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 31, 2013 Report Posted October 31, 2013 sabres now on pace for 30 points. Hmmm, That 24 points may just be doable ......... :P Quote
Jsixspd Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 The bad news keeps getting worse for Darcy Regier's Sabres. With last night's game, we've played 1/5th of the entire season. Gentlemen, the news is not good -Goals For Per game - WORST in the entire league at only 1.47. Last night we lost to the SECOND worst team in this statistic - the Rangers are only 1.67, but someone managed to play above average against Regier's Sabres. -Goals Against - 10th worst in the league at 2.87, and that's despite having one of the best goalies in the league in the net. - Differential - Goals For vs Goals Against - WORST in the league at -1.4 -Shots fired - WORST in the league at only 25.3 shots. This statistic probably paints a prettier picture than reality, honestly. I've noticed the bulk of the Sabres shots are in "garbage time" during the later half of the 3rd period where the opposing team is hunkering down and going into "prevent mode". -Shots against - 3rd worst in the league at 35.9 shots against per game. -Shots fired vs Shots against differential - WORST IN THE LEAGUE at -10.6 -PPG - tied for 4th worst at 5 PPG PPGA - 8th worst in the league Power Play percentage - 4th worst in the league at only 10.9% Total points - 5 pts. WORST in the league - the next worst, Philly, at 6 points - has played 4 fewer games than the Sabres The stats keep getting worse for the team. In 5 significant team statistics, the Buffalo Sabres are the WORST in hockey. In another 3, they're in the bottom 5. The other 2 that I listed above are bottom 10. These are just dreadful statistics. The Sabres are actually making the 3-5 Bills somehow look like a successful, well-run organization in comparison. Darcy Regier needs to get pounded on/hounded by sports writers, commentators, and the sports media every single time he steps in front of a podium until he fixes this team, or Pegula gets someone else to do the job. - Quote
dEnnis the Menace Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 The bad news keeps getting worse for Darcy Regier's Sabres. With last night's game, we've played 1/5th of the entire season. Gentlemen, the news is not good -Goals For Per game - WORST in the entire league at only 1.47. Last night we lost to the SECOND worst team in this statistic - the Rangers are only 1.67, but someone managed to play above average against Regier's Sabres. -Goals Against - 10th worst in the league at 2.87, and that's despite having one of the best goalies in the league in the net. - Differential - Goals For vs Goals Against - WORST in the league at -1.4 -Shots fired - WORST in the league at only 25.3 shots. This statistic probably paints a prettier picture than reality, honestly. I've noticed the bulk of the Sabres shots are in "garbage time" during the later half of the 3rd period where the opposing team is hunkering down and going into "prevent mode". -Shots against - 3rd worst in the league at 35.9 shots against per game. -Shots fired vs Shots against differential - WORST IN THE LEAGUE at -10.6 -PPG - tied for 4th worst at 5 PPG PPGA - 8th worst in the league Power Play percentage - 4th worst in the league at only 10.9% Total points - 5 pts. WORST in the league - the next worst, Philly, at 6 points - has played 4 fewer games than the Sabres The stats keep getting worse for the team. In 5 significant team statistics, the Buffalo Sabres are the WORST in hockey. In another 3, they're in the bottom 5. The other 2 that I listed above are bottom 10. These are just dreadful statistics. The Sabres are actually making the 3-5 Bills somehow look like a successful, well-run organization in comparison. Darcy Regier needs to get pounded on/hounded by sports writers, commentators, and the sports media every single time he steps in front of a podium until he fixes this team, or Pegula gets someone else to do the job. - at least our PK is decent ;) Quote
papazoid Posted November 1, 2013 Author Report Posted November 1, 2013 sabres now on pace for 28 points. Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 sabres now on pace for 28 points. and because it would funny if it werent so sad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru4kerzu_Bg Quote
Iron Crotch Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 Well the worst team in NHL history was an expansion team, the 74-75 Wasington Capitals. The expansion Sharks lost 71 games back in the early 90s. It is still early in the season, but it is hard to think of too many non-expansion teams that have been as bad as this year's Sabres. http://en.wikipedia....Capitals_season Quote
BMWR100RT Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 TSN.Ca Power rankings.....dead last with this tidbit "The haul of draft picks has begun and it's going to be fascinating to see how this season turns out for the Sabres. Right now, it looks like they could be one of the worst teams in recent memory, only to get worse once they deal G Ryan Miller." The front office must be proud of how they spent our ticket money. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 1, 2013 Report Posted November 1, 2013 TSN.Ca Power rankings.....dead last with this tidbit "The haul of draft picks has begun and it's going to be fascinating to see how this season turns out for the Sabres. Right now, it looks like they could be one of the worst teams in recent memory, only to get worse once they deal G Ryan Miller." The front office must be proud of how they spent our ticket money. The response from FNC is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-eCX8guIVM Quote
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