sicknfla Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 Same goes for whoever we pick. I don't care if he is #1 overall. I don't want him here next year.
Robviously Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 Same goes for whoever we pick. I don't care if he is #1 overall. I don't want him here next year. Agree with this too. At most, I'd give our first round pick a Zadorov-type taste of the NHL and then send him back down.
Trettioåtta Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 The coaches voted Grigorenko as one of Russia's three best players for the tournament. For all the concern about how coaches at every level have questioned his competitiveness, this should be encouraging...yet it hasn't made a dent in perception. It is Grigo's game. It is oddly quiet, but somehow he puts up points and often wins battles along the boards. I think there is a subtlety to it that is missed by a lot of people who want a bull powering through the middle knocking players off their skates etc. You see it in other players as well - Lidstrom took a while to be recognised as one of the best in the sport because of how quiet a game he played
Koomkie Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 It is Grigo's game. It is oddly quiet, but somehow he puts up points and often wins battles along the boards. I think there is a subtlety to it that is missed by a lot of people who want a bull powering through the middle knocking players off their skates etc. You see it in other players as well - Lidstrom took a while to be recognised as one of the best in the sport because of how quiet a game he played i agree with this. everyone gets really upset because he isnt fast into the play but he always seems to be one of the first guys on the back check, in a pretty good position. i think he cares a lot about defense which i really like. especially at that age, coming into the nhl, it is nice to see him not just want to be a ball hog. the kids passing skills are incredible. can't wait for him to mature. he is a keeper.
Weave Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 It is Grigo's game. It is oddly quiet, but somehow he puts up points and often wins battles along the boards. I think there is a subtlety to it that is missed by a lot of people who want a bull powering through the middle knocking players off their skates etc. You see it in other players as well - Lidstrom took a while to be recognised as one of the best in the sport because of how quiet a game he played Pierre Turgeon?
Robviously Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 This seems like a good summary: Kris Baker @SabresProspects 1h Few extra strides away from puck could be difference maker for 25 as pro. In right spots, but must replace coasting stick checks with body. Let's see if he ever does that last part. Some guys never do.
darksabre Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 This seems like a good summary: Kris Baker @SabresProspects 1h Few extra strides away from puck could be difference maker for 25 as pro. In right spots, but must replace coasting stick checks with body. Let's see if he ever does that last part. Some guys never do. I think it's going to take a few years of strength and size building to get him feeling comfortable with that part of the game. He's not a big guy by NHL standards.
LGR4GM Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 It is Grigo's game. It is oddly quiet, but somehow he puts up points and often wins battles along the boards. I think there is a subtlety to it that is missed by a lot of people who want a bull powering through the middle knocking players off their skates etc. You see it in other players as well - Lidstrom took a while to be recognised as one of the best in the sport because of how quiet a game he played I think Grigs is learning and is quietly getting better. He won't be ready next year but if he keeps working he can become very good in this league.
inkman Posted January 5, 2014 Report Posted January 5, 2014 I think Grigs is learning and is quietly getting better. He won't be ready next year but if he keeps working he can become very good in this league. I'm hoping they find a good place for him. It ain't in Buffalo or the Q.
qwksndmonster Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 I'm hoping they find a good place for him. It ain't in Buffalo or the Q. It'd be nice if they could get him traded to the OHL to finish out this year and then the A next year. (not sure how trades work in the CHL, but I'm assuming there'd be takers for a Grigorenko rental) But if he's going to be in Buffalo I'd prefer they give him at least 10 games with 2 of Ennis, Moulson and Girgensons. If Nolan still doesn't like his compete, fine, 4th line and press box him. At least give him a shot.
Huckleberry Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 To answer your question, yes he is only 19yrs old, thread can now be closed
sicknfla Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 If he never played a game for us and went straight to Jr's last year who would you be more excited about after this tournament. Grigs or Reinhart?
Huckleberry Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 Grigorenko no doubt, Also wondering what they will do with him, rumours on other boards saying he'll be send back to the Q. Personally im not a fan of that, his ELC is already on his 2nd year of being burned for nothing, i want him to stay up with playing time wich he'll receive alot more after the trade deadline.
sicknfla Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 Just send him to Rochester. I think someone mentioned on here once that they can't do that. Or was that Girgs....or Risto.....or Zadarov?
darksabre Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 I think someone mentioned on here once that they can't do that. Or was that Girgs....or Risto.....or Zadarov? They can't send him there this year because of his age. However next year I believe he is eligible to go to the AHL.
sicknfla Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 They can't send him there this year because of his age. However next year I believe he is eligible to go to the AHL. Before you all bombard me it was a joke.
darksabre Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 Before you all bombard me it was a joke. I know you were joking. I was throwing myself in front of the train for you. :P
sicknfla Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 I know you were joking. I was throwing myself in front of the train for you. :P Thanks. The way it's been around here the last few days probably a good thing you took one for me.
darksabre Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks. The way it's been around here the last few days probably a good thing you took one for me. I swear I'm not a douche all the time. :angel:
LGR4GM Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 I swear I'm not a douche all the time. :angel: but when he is, he prefers Dos Equis stay douchie my friends
Assquatch Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 Dos Equis would make for a fizzy douche, which is a fun insult all by itself.
3putt Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 This seems like a good summary: Kris Baker @SabresProspects 1h Few extra strides away from puck could be difference maker for 25 as pro. In right spots, but must replace coasting stick checks with body. Let's see if he ever does that last part. Some guys never do. This. His instinct to reach with his stick v striding into a play is obvious to many observers. It raises the question of desire or skating ability or coaching. As Herb Brooks said "legs feed the wolf." I think he is young enough to realize that all his other abilities will be heightened by becoming a stronger skater. I just hope it happens here and not inthe KHL.
Trettioåtta Posted January 6, 2014 Report Posted January 6, 2014 This. His instinct to reach with his stick v striding into a play is obvious to many observers. It raises the question of desire or skating ability or coaching. As Herb Brooks said "legs feed the wolf." I think he is young enough to realize that all his other abilities will be heightened by becoming a stronger skater. I just hope it happens here and not inthe KHL. The legs feed the wolf is a quote about fitness not skating ability. I'm glad to see the KHL argument pops up again, for a moment I was worried people were forgetting how greedy and desperate for the motherland these Ruskis are
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