GDT: Columbus at Buffalo 9-25-13 @7PM

[darksabre]

 

Should I be doing cartwheels for 2 construction cranes and a wooden bridge built over a canal with a $50 million budget by Larry Quinn? What are you trying to say? I'll give you $50 to have Jo park on Perry St. at 10PM on a non-event night, and walk the square from Perry/So.Park/Michigan and Pearl.

 

 

Stop avoiding the question.

[Weave]

 

all due respect, weave. but shouldn't your contribution have been a tarnished nittany lion allusion?

 

I'm not sure I get this.

 

And why does a statement that starts "all due respect" rarely end up a respectful statement? :P

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I wouldn't have pegged you as someone who would complain about this.

 

I didn't even notice it until Ghost mentioned it, and not that it will, but if it keeps ads off of the boards, I'm all for it (instead of completely indifferent, as I am now).

 

The virtual ads behind the nets are extremely tacky and scream "money grab". This, compounded with the other money grabs mentioned already in the thread, and the "I'll dig another well" narrative The Pegula himself put out there, has made me beyond sick with this administration.

 

The virtual ads WILL NOT keep ads off the boards.

[darksabre]

 

 

The virtual ads behind the nets are extremely tacky and scream "money grab". This, compounded with the other money grabs mentioned already in the thread, and the "I'll dig another well" narrative The Pegula himself put out there, has made me beyond sick with this administration.

 

The virtual ads WILL NOT keep ads off the boards.

 

Aren't most teams doing the virtual ads these days?

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Aren't most teams doing the virtual ads these days?

 

 

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[Weave]

I like the use of "administration" here.

[darksabre]

 

 

 

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I know right. It's so much more fun to ignore the reasonable answer and make ###### up instead.

[nfreeman]

I'm not sure I get this.

 

And why does a statement that starts "all due respect" rarely end up a respectful statement? :P

 

As Ricky Bobby put it: "with all due respect" is a free pass.

[SwampD]

I know right. It's so much more fun to ignore the reasonable answer and make ###### up instead.

I think he was refering to this.

[TrueBlueGED]

Do we know exactly how independent teams are from the NHL from a business perspective? What I'm trying to get at is whether there are any sanctions the owners can put on an individual owner if he is willfully not finding any ways to increase the HRR pie? I guess I'm saying we have to keep in mind the Sabres are just one unit of a larger business.

[waldo]

the future ? Hockey players dressed like Rhinestone Cowboys flashing one add per minute while they skate up and down the ice during power plays ...lol or

 

stopping the game after every goal so we can listen to a "this goal is brought to you by" add with dancing bears and naked women?

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

Stop avoiding the question.

If I've been in Buffalo? I just F'n had to drive down Oak today because the 33 was F'd and I missed my deadline, so I got off at Grider and went south instead. So.....yes, about 50 minutes ago.....

[darksabre]

 

If I've been in Buffalo? I just F'n had to drive down Oak today because the 33 was F'd and I missed my deadline, so I got off at Grider and went south instead. So.....yes, about 50 minutes ago.....

 

So have you been down to the harbor front? Maybe checked it out on a Saturday? Stood and looked around at the people walking around, enjoying the sun. Eat a little something from a food truck. Maybe looked at the work site across from FN and thought "cool, this will be a nice addition to the area".

 

If you haven't, then you're just being a baby.

[spndnchz]

Sorry about that. My car blew a tire by Eggert.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

So have you been down to the harbor front? Maybe checked it out on a Saturday? Stood and looked around at the people walking around, enjoying the sun. Eat a little something from a food truck. Maybe looked at the work site across from FN and thought "cool, this will be a nice addition to the area".

 

If you haven't, then you're just being a baby.

Congrats on coming to see the pretty boats one day a month ago.....sounds like you enjoyed your visit. I've lived in Miami where there were more cranes over 5 blocks than I have seen in Buffalo for 30 years. I'm not saying that makes things better....because I chose to come home. The point being.....Pegula came here and made 3 bold statements....1) Multiple Stanley Cups 2) If I want to make money I will drill a well 3) There is no interest in becoming a real estate developer, that's not what he is........well guess what.....3 years later, and all 3 have gone about as far away from what was promised as could possibly be. I want a competent owner and manager for my hockey team.....in fact, a successful hockey team is about the only thing that would attract me to moving downtown. Maybe in 20-30 years there will be a true infrastructure down there and actual HOUSING to purchase, not multifamily to rent. Other than right on the water, north on Delaware and Elmwood, and a few pockets say on Hertel.....there is nothing near the arena that is safe enough or attractive enough as of yet. If Pegula adds to that..God F'n bless him......but I don't care...and I certainly don't want to see 30 minute infomercials, 7 minute intermission reports with Cliff Benson, and a dozen commercials throughout the game telling me what an awesome Real Estate Project is project to be here in 2 years from the guy that supposedly had ZERO intention of any of this BS, and only cared about a successful hockey team. If you want to have a pleasant afternoon...I can point you to plenty of spots in Orchard Park or East Aurora or Angola, or Lewiston....where the grift isn't so heavily involved and 50 years of corruption, empty promises, and organized gladhanding hasn't held the horse up in the starting gate to the point we all have to take full-page ads out in the News to fellate a carpetbagging Gasman. So to you...I say...Good Day Sir........

[spndnchz]

Pretty sure the question was "are you going to spend money on this team" "are their any financial constraints on Darcy" not "are you going to be 2 ice rinks and a hotel to make money".

[darksabre]

 

Congrats on coming to see the pretty boats one day a month ago.....sounds like you enjoyed your visit. I've lived in Miami where there were more cranes over 5 blocks than I have seen in Buffalo for 30 years. I'm not saying that makes things better....because I chose to come home. The point being.....Pegula came here and made 3 bold statements....1) Multiple Stanley Cups 2) If I want to make money I will drill a well 3) There is no interest in becoming a real estate developer, that's not what he is........well guess what.....3 years later, and all 3 have gone about as far away from what was promised as could possibly be. I want a competent owner and manager for my hockey team.....in fact, a successful hockey team is about the only thing that would attract me to moving downtown. Maybe in 20-30 years there will be a true infrastructure down there and actual HOUSING to purchase, not multifamily to rent. Other than right on the water, north on Delaware and Elmwood, and a few pockets say on Hertel.....there is nothing near the arena that is safe enough or attractive enough as of yet. If Pegula adds to that..God F'n bless him......but I don't care...and I certainly don't want to see 30 minute infomercials, 7 minute intermission reports with Cliff Benson, and a dozen commercials throughout the game telling me what an awesome Real Estate Project is project to be here in 2 years from the guy that supposedly had ZERO intention of any of this BS, and only cared about a successful hockey team. If you want to have a pleasant afternoon...I can point you to plenty of spots in Orchard Park or East Aurora or Angola, or Lewiston....where the grift isn't so heavily involved and 50 years of corruption, empty promises, and organized gladhanding hasn't held the horse up in the starting gate to the point we all have to take full-page ads out in the News to fellate a carpetbagging Gasman. So to you...I say...Good Day Sir........

 

So basically your entire argument hinges on a belief that nothing ever gets better?

 

That's a sad way to live.

[spndnchz]

So basically your entire argument hinges on a belief that nothing ever gets better?

 

That's a sad way to live.

 

He doesn't like Buffalo or the Sabres.

 

But of course will say "but that's the point I love them like an orphan loves it's first teddy bear"

[darksabre]

 

 

He doesn't like Buffalo or the Sabres.

 

But of course will say "but that's the point I love them like an orphan loves it's first teddy bear"

 

It all comes down to how far down the rabbit hole you let your mind travel. If you think about how the world works long enough and hard enough, you begin to hate it. You see how positive actions and people mesh with negative actions and people. Lines blur.

 

Ghost has reached a point where all he sees is greed, and it prevents him from seeing any of the positives this current situation presents. He doesn't see the potential anymore because he doesn't believe in it. He's convinced that anything we perceive as good is the result of something bad, and that we should turn away from the evil. We needn't believe that Buffalo, with the help of the right people with the right ideas and the right resources can, can move forward and become something good. Terry's money is dirty even though it's being used for positive reasons. That's the only conclusion Ghost thinks we should have.

 

I see what is being done in Buffalo right now as slow progress. We can focus on the past, focus on the bad, focus on perhaps the unsettling ways someone like Terry Pegula has made his money. That same money that is being injected right into our city's core. Sometimes you have to look past the bad to see the good. This doesn't mean you look without seeing, just that you've rationalized the gains versus the costs.

 

Terry fracked himself some cash, bought our hockey team, and is pumping money into our city. It's the American way. If you want to blame someone for making Terry rich, blame the idiot state he made his money in. You know, the one that doesn't care about the welfare of its citizens. All Terry did was play the game. And it drives Ghost mad.

[josie]

Is $50 the going rate?

Well, that's one way to find out my worth...

[IKnowPhysics]

Haters gonna hate.

[beerme1]

 

Congrats on coming to see the pretty boats one day a month ago.....sounds like you enjoyed your visit. I've lived in Miami where there were more cranes over 5 blocks than I have seen in Buffalo for 30 years. I'm not saying that makes things better....because I chose to come home. The point being.....Pegula came here and made 3 bold statements....1) Multiple Stanley Cups 2) If I want to make money I will drill a well 3) There is no interest in becoming a real estate developer, that's not what he is........well guess what.....3 years later, and all 3 have gone about as far away from what was promised as could possibly be. I want a competent owner and manager for my hockey team.....in fact, a successful hockey team is about the only thing that would attract me to moving downtown. Maybe in 20-30 years there will be a true infrastructure down there and actual HOUSING to purchase, not multifamily to rent. Other than right on the water, north on Delaware and Elmwood, and a few pockets say on Hertel.....there is nothing near the arena that is safe enough or attractive enough as of yet. If Pegula adds to that..God F'n bless him......but I don't care...and I certainly don't want to see 30 minute infomercials, 7 minute intermission reports with Cliff Benson, and a dozen commercials throughout the game telling me what an awesome Real Estate Project is project to be here in 2 years from the guy that supposedly had ZERO intention of any of this BS, and only cared about a successful hockey team. If you want to have a pleasant afternoon...I can point you to plenty of spots in Orchard Park or East Aurora or Angola, or Lewiston....where the grift isn't so heavily involved and 50 years of corruption, empty promises, and organized gladhanding hasn't held the horse up in the starting gate to the point we all have to take full-page ads out in the News to fellate a carpetbagging Gasman. So to you...I say...Good Day Sir........

 

I get it. You're saying he's running for office!!! But which one?

 

 

[SwampD]

Congrats on coming to see the pretty boats one day a month ago.....sounds like you enjoyed your visit. I've lived in Miami where there were more cranes over 5 blocks than I have seen in Buffalo for 30 years. I'm not saying that makes things better....because I chose to come home. The point being.....Pegula came here and made 3 bold statements....1) Multiple Stanley Cups 2) If I want to make money I will drill a well 3) There is no interest in becoming a real estate developer, that's not what he is........well guess what.....3 years later, and all 3 have gone about as far away from what was promised as could possibly be. I want a competent owner and manager for my hockey team.....in fact, a successful hockey team is about the only thing that would attract me to moving downtown. Maybe in 20-30 years there will be a true infrastructure down there and actual HOUSING to purchase, not multifamily to rent. Other than right on the water, north on Delaware and Elmwood, and a few pockets say on Hertel.....there is nothing near the arena that is safe enough or attractive enough as of yet. If Pegula adds to that..God F'n bless him......but I don't care...and I certainly don't want to see 30 minute infomercials, 7 minute intermission reports with Cliff Benson, and a dozen commercials throughout the game telling me what an awesome Real Estate Project is project to be here in 2 years from the guy that supposedly had ZERO intention of any of this BS, and only cared about a successful hockey team. If you want to have a pleasant afternoon...I can point you to plenty of spots in Orchard Park or East Aurora or Angola, or Lewiston....where the grift isn't so heavily involved and 50 years of corruption, empty promises, and organized gladhanding hasn't held the horse up in the starting gate to the point we all have to take full-page ads out in the News to fellate a carpetbagging Gasman. So to you...I say...Good Day Sir........

It all comes down to how far down the rabbit hole you let your mind travel. If you think about how the world works long enough and hard enough, you begin to hate it. You see how positive actions and people mesh with negative actions and people. Lines blur.

 

Ghost has reached a point where all he sees is greed, and it prevents him from seeing any of the positives this current situation presents. He doesn't see the potential anymore because he doesn't believe in it. He's convinced that anything we perceive as good is the result of something bad, and that we should turn away from the evil. We needn't believe that Buffalo, with the help of the right people with the right ideas and the right resources can, can move forward and become something good. Terry's money is dirty even though it's being used for positive reasons. That's the only conclusion Ghost thinks we should have.

 

I see what is being done in Buffalo right now as slow progress. We can focus on the past, focus on the bad, focus on perhaps the unsettling ways someone like Terry Pegula has made his money. That same money that is being injected right into our city's core. Sometimes you have to look past the bad to see the good. This doesn't mean you look without seeing, just that you've rationalized the gains versus the costs.

 

Terry fracked himself some cash, bought our hockey team, and is pumping money into our city. It's the American way. If you want to blame someone for making Terry rich, blame the idiot state he made his money in. You know, the one that doesn't care about the welfare of its citizens. All Terry did was play the game. And it drives Ghost mad.

Only people who really love Buffalo and love the Sabres could write posts such as these. Both are excellent in their own way.

 

We may not see a Cup next year (either Stanley's in the FNC, or the America's on the shores of Lake Erie). But I definitely see one of them coming to Buffalo eventually.

[josie]

Only people who really love Buffalo and love the Sabres could write posts such as these. Both are excellent in their own way.

 

Well said.

[Derrico]

It all comes down to how far down the rabbit hole you let your mind travel. If you think about how the world works long enough and hard enough, you begin to hate it. You see how positive actions and people mesh with negative actions and people. Lines blur.

 

Ghost has reached a point where all he sees is greed, and it prevents him from seeing any of the positives this current situation presents. He doesn't see the potential anymore because he doesn't believe in it. He's convinced that anything we perceive as good is the result of something bad, and that we should turn away from the evil. We needn't believe that Buffalo, with the help of the right people with the right ideas and the right resources can, can move forward and become something good. Terry's money is dirty even though it's being used for positive reasons. That's the only conclusion Ghost thinks we should have.

 

I see what is being done in Buffalo right now as slow progress. We can focus on the past, focus on the bad, focus on perhaps the unsettling ways someone like Terry Pegula has made his money. That same money that is being injected right into our city's core. Sometimes you have to look past the bad to see the good. This doesn't mean you look without seeing, just that you've rationalized the gains versus the costs.

 

Terry fracked himself some cash, bought our hockey team, and is pumping money into our city. It's the American way. If you want to blame someone for making Terry rich, blame the idiot state he made his money in. You know, the one that doesn't care about the welfare of its citizens. All Terry did was play the game. And it drives Ghost mad.

 

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