Weave Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I can't describe how much I loathe all of this talk. None of these dumb ass rumors are going to.com true yet individuals here create ######in websites completely dedicated to this fiction. Get a girlfriend or something. None of yourself up BS is going to happen. You are trying to predict the future of 15 year olds. Ink is drunk and belligerent. Highly entertaining. Proposals : To Edmonton: (8th), Stafford To Buffalo: (7th), Horcoff To Philadelphia: Miller, Sekera To Buffalo: Couturier, (11th) To Calgary: Vanek, Catenacci, (16th) To Buffalo: Cammalleri, (6th), (22nd), (28th) Buffalo now has picks # 6,7,11,22,28 To Tampa Bay: Myers, (7th), (22nd) To Buffalo: 3rd Overall To Florida: Hodgson, Luke Adam, Tim Schaller, Andrey Makarov, (6th), (11th) To Buffalo: 2nd Overall In: Horcoff, Couturier, Cammalleri, 28th(Defense), 3rd Overall (A. Barkov) 2nd Overall (J. Drouin) Out: Stafford, Miller, Sekera, Vanek, Catenacci, Myers, Hodgson, Adam, Schaller, Makarov, (Picks moved #'s 6,7,8,11,16, 22) #Suffering? Cammalleri Grigorenko Drouin Leino Barkov Armia Ott Couturier Girgensons..... !!!!! Horcoff etc, etc, Hoff Pysyk McNabb Weber Ruhwedel Sulzer Enroth (Help Me!!! my D sucks) Any trade proposal mentioning Luke Adam is worthy of much scorn.
qwksndmonster Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Has she even done anything lately? Did we end her career? I thought she just broke some trade info...
shrader Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Ink is drunk and belligerent. Highly entertaining. Any trade proposal mentioning Luke Adam is worthy of much scorn. Adam is the only part of that suggested traded that you questioned?
Peppy22 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Deal between Penguins and Kris Letang considered to be imminent, should be done before Round 1.
thewookie1 Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Proposals : To Edmonton: (8th), Stafford To Buffalo: (7th), Horcoff To Philadelphia: Miller, Sekera To Buffalo: Couturier, (11th) To Calgary: Vanek, Catenacci, (16th) To Buffalo: Cammalleri, (6th), (22nd), (28th) Buffalo now has picks # 6,7,11,22,28 Stop there. Maybe if anything attempt to swap 6 & 22 for the 4th overall.
Weave Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Adam is the only part of that suggested traded that you questioned? publicly. :D
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I would laugh my a$$ off is they deal him back to the Flyers: @DarrenDreger Bobrovsky being offered to teams by the Blue Jackets. Told he wants $6 mil per. Columbus in market for a goalie.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I would laugh my a$$ off is they deal him back to the Flyers: @DarrenDreger Bobrovsky being offered to teams by the Blue Jackets. Told he wants $6 mil per. Columbus in market for a goalie. I still think this is the perfect team to deal with, and if they really do want a goalie, Miller and Vanek could both go here. If the Sabres are talking moving Myers, it's almost a certainty Vanek and Miller will move as well. Maybe they are actually about to do something smart and clear all that cap space to make a run at a few guys in an oversupply year of FA.
spndnchz Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 Rangers have acquired D Justin Falk from Wild for Benn Ferriero and 6th rounder in 2014
Hoss Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I still think this is the perfect team to deal with, and if they really do want a goalie, Miller and Vanek could both go here. If the Sabres are talking moving Myers, it's almost a certainty Vanek and Miller will move as well. Maybe they are actually about to do something smart and clear all that cap space to make a run at a few guys in an oversupply year of FA. Only issue is I don't see anyway that Miller would want to go there if there are other deals/places on the table for him.
Taro T Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I can't describe how much I loathe all of this talk. None of these dumb ass rumors are going to.com true yet individuals here create ######in websites completely dedicated to this fiction. Get a girlfriend or something. None of yourself up BS is going to happen. You are trying to predict the future of 15 year olds. :beer: This is what makes this place, this place. Well done.
PromoTheRobot Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 whats laughable are online personalities. like insulting someone while using the anonymity of a computer to hide behind. I agree I went on a rant. did I ever come at you like that? I don't down right hate him. I just think he is not up to the task in this situation. I'm doing what you are doing. But it's okay for you but not me? When I said "hate" I meant hate the job he's doing, not hate him personally. But I think your reasons for disliking his resume are flimsy. The man has made mistakes but overall he has done well considering the pressures that have been on him. Pressures like bankruptcy, having his scouting department replaced with a VCR, etc. As for complaining he values his players too much, that is the nuttiest criticism ever. He drives a hard bargain and he's been successful doing that. And that's a problem? Seriously. Say it out loud and listen to yourself. You don't want a GM to get maximum value? PTR
Taro T Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I'm doing what you are doing. But it's okay for you but not me? When I said "hate" I meant hate the job he's doing, not hate him personally. But I think your reasons for disliking his resume are flimsy. The man has made mistakes but overall he has done well considering the pressures that have been on him. Pressures like bankruptcy, having his scouting department replaced with a VCR, etc. As for complaining he values his players too much, that is the nuttiest criticism ever. He drives a hard bargain and he's been successful doing that. And that's a problem? Seriously. Say it out loud and listen to yourself. You don't want a GM to get maximum value? PTR I've been pretty firmly in the Regier's had significant extenuating circumstances, give him a chance to show what he can do without them, camp. His (paraphrased comments) 'we're on the wrong track, we're going to blow it up and start over' pushes me away from that. Maybe he'll surprise me and not blow it up; but right now, I expect Vanek and Miller to be gone by the trade deadline at the latest and probably some other pieces which will place the team at least 3 years from competing. There's no need to completely blow it up. Bring in Lecavalier and another C and this team is in the mix for now and will be giving the kids a chance to learn in an environment significantly dissimilar to that in Edmonton.
carpandean Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 As for complaining he values his players too much, that is the nuttiest criticism ever. He drives a hard bargain and he's been successful doing that. And that's a problem? Seriously. Say it out loud and listen to yourself. You don't want a GM to get maximum value? I gave the example previously of a company selling a product at a $20 margin, which currently sells 100 units/month. Is that a good choice if dropping the price $10 (to a $10 margin) would increase sales to 300 units/month? Is the question whether $20/unit is better than $10/unit or is the question whether $2000/month is better than $3000/month? If, hypothetically, Darcy does overvalue his players, then every trade that actually goes through will look good. Darcy was a breath away from not getting anything for Gaustad, because he wouldn't take a first. It's not too hard to imagine that he had passed on reasonable deals throughout the day on the chance that some fool would actually give him his ridiculous asking price. In this case, somebody did. Great. However, how has not making many fair deals for guys like Connolly, Roy, Stafford, etc, meaning that those players stuck around for far too long, affected the team build as a whole?
Weave Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I gave the example previously of a company selling a product at a $20 margin, which currently sells 100 units/month. Is that a good choice if dropping the price $10 (to a $10 margin) would increase sales to 300 units/month? Is the question whether $20/unit is better than $10/unit or is the question whether $2000/month is better than $3000/month? If, hypothetically, Darcy does overvalue his players, then every trade that actually goes through will look good. Darcy was a breath away from not getting anything for Gaustad, because he wouldn't take a first. It's not too hard to imagine that he had passed on reasonable deals throughout the day on the chance that some fool would actually give him his ridiculous asking price. In this case, somebody did. Great. However, how has not making many fair deals for guys like Connolly, Roy, Stafford, etc, meaning that those players stuck around for far too long, affected the team build as a whole? :clapping:
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Leddy is a good looking young player: @JoshRimerHockey Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks also talking trade. Apparently Nick Leddy looks to be the guy their offering.
inkman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Leddy is a good looking young player: @JoshRimerHockey Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks also talking trade. Apparently Nick Leddy looks to be the guy their offering. Why do they want to trade him?
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Why do they want to trade him? Don't know, but his rumored availability surprises me.
ubkev Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Don't know, but his rumored availability surprises me. He was getting less and less ice time in the cup final. In game 6 he had just over 3 minutes of ice.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 He was getting less and less ice time in the cup final. In game 6 he had just over 3 minutes of ice. I know, but the guy is only 22 years old.
ubkev Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I know, but the guy is only 22 years old. Oh I'm aware, I'm not saying what they should do with him one way or the other. I was just pointing out that they really chopped down his ice time as the games got important.
spndnchz Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Posted June 30, 2013 Penguins trade Tyler Kennedy to Sharks for 50th pick
26CornerBlitz Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Oh I'm aware, I'm not saying what they should do with him one way or the other. I was just pointing out that they really chopped down his ice time as the games got important. Got it.
Hoss Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Penguins trade Tyler Kennedy to Sharks for 50th pick Wowzers.
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