qwksndmonster Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Get Him.....NOW!!!! On the Sabres Thornton would be about as useful as a ###### flavored lolly pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 On the Sabres Thornton would be about as useful as a ###### flavored lolly pop. I'll give $0.05 towards his bus fare to the ECHL. If we determine that we need a goon next year, I'd rather have Scott around the impressionable young minds, not a guy who committed assault on a top 2 dman trying to pretend that the "code" meant he had to drop the gloves with him. If penalties were actually called in this league guys like Thornton and Scott wouldn't ever see a shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'll give $0.05 towards his bus fare to the ECHL. If we determine that we need a goon next year, I'd rather have Scott around the impressionable young minds, not a guy who committed assault on a top 2 dman trying to pretend that the "code" meant he had to drop the gloves with him. If penalties were actually called in this league guys like Thornton and Scott wouldn't ever see a shift. I'm with you up until this. Thornton has been a marked man ever since the suspension you mentioned (while he previously enjoyed the Boston Lenience). John Scott gets a penalty for looking at guys too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm with you up until this. Thornton has been a marked man ever since the suspension you mentioned (while he previously enjoyed the Boston Lenience). John Scott gets a penalty for looking at guys too hard. My point is only that if interference and clutching and grabbing were actually called, slow footed guys like Scott and Thornton wouldn't see the light of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 My point is only that if interference and clutching and grabbing were actually called, slow footed guys like Scott and Thornton wouldn't see the light of day. Luckily for them, they're not always called. If hockey was played with soccer nets then guys like Lundvist and Quick wouldn't see the light of day either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wow! Who needs a character guy with a Stanley Cup who averaged more goals than Scott/Kaleta/McCormick/Lieno combined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Dwight is right of course, one-year deal and he's an upgrade on Scott. But I just can't get over the Boston stink. It's a character flaw. Edited June 17, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wow! Who needs a character guy with a Stanley Cup who averaged more goals than Scott/Kaleta/McCormick/Lieno combined? Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Thornton had one year where he had 10 goals, which matches Kaleta's career year. And McCormick had 8 as his high. It's a contest of which plug had the most puck luck in their very best year. And Leino was actually an NHL player at one point. Apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Thornton had one year where he had 10 goals, which matches Kaleta's career year. And McCormick had 8 as his high. It's a contest of which plug had the most puck luck in their very best year. And Leino was actually an NHL player at one point. Apples and oranges. Throw out Lieno and he blows away the other 3 the past 3 years..... He's not a goon. He's a guy who played more playoff games the past 4 years THAN THE ENTIRE SABRES ROSTER!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Throw out Lieno and he blows away the other 3 the past 3 years..... He's not a goon. He's a guy who played more playoff games the past 4 years THAN THE ENTIRE SABRES ROSTER!!!!! 5,3, and 5 goals in the past 3 years. And he was a passenger on a good team. Would you have made the same argument for Rob Ray in the late 90's? And he was suspended for slewfooting and knocking out a legit NHL player who wouldn't fight him after a clean hit. If that doesn't define a goon, I don't know what does. If we are going to add anyone.....add a legit NHL player who is towards the very end of their career to impart wisdom. Bringing on a sideshow is counterproductive. Think like a 35 year old Doug Weight. Edited June 17, 2014 by Darryl Shannon's +/- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Now, I'm no Kings fan, but this headline/article is a great example of how LA hockey gets muted in national coverage. "Kings center Kopitar proves to be elite player" http://www.nhl.com/i...39&cmpid=nhl-fb Just now? Now he proves himself to be an elite player? After winning two cups? That's what it takes to be recognized by the league beat writers? He was taken 11th overall. He put up 60 points his rookie year, back in 2006-2007. His sophomore year he netted 32 goals and 77 points. He just finished up his eighth season, over which his career regular season average is 74 points. He doesn't fail to bring it in the playoffs either. 60 points in 70 playoff games, going a full point per game pace in the Kings' Cup years. When I caught my first Kings game in 2010, I was like "who the ###### is this guy and why have I never heard his name before??" Four years later, and eight years into his career, I guess the NHL staff writers finally decided to let the cat out of the bag. Next up on NHL.com: Lou Lamoriello establishes himself in the NHL, Hawks Coach Quenneville seen as 'pretty good' That's a a stretch - I clearly see him as "alright". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 From that POV, it does make sense. So what [he] told you was true, from a certain point of view ... You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'll give $0.05 towards his bus fare to the ECHL. If we determine that we need a goon next year, I'd rather have Scott around the impressionable young minds, not a guy who committed assault on a top 2 dman trying to pretend that the "code" meant he had to drop the gloves with him. If penalties were actually called in this league guys like Thornton and Scott wouldn't ever see a shift. I'm sorry, if you think Scott and Thornton are similar players you're not paying attention. A contending team (or a team that believes they can contend) looking to add a little grit to their fourth line will pick Thornton up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm sorry, if you think Scott and Thornton are similar players you're not paying attention. A contending team (or a team that believes they can contend) looking to add a little grit to their fourth line will pick Thornton up. The Rangers added Scott a couple years back when they finished first in the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) The Rangers added Scott a couple years back when they finished first in the East. Don't go and confuse things with facts. Edited June 17, 2014 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 On the Sabres Thornton would be about as useful as a ###### flavored lolly pop. I liked the old days better, when they used actual #### in those lolly pops and not just #### flavour, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 On the Sabres Thornton would be about as useful as a ###### flavored lolly pop. But if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) @RossCreekNation: FLA, CBJ, NSH, NYI all apparently on Jason Spezza's no-trade list, per Dreger. Nashville being on there is big. They were one of the top teams rumored. There was also a report that he had all Canadian teams other than Toronto and Montreal on there. So if you assume that's true and Buffalo is on there then: FLA, CBJ, NYI, NSH, BUF, VAN, CAL, WPG would be eight of the ten. Edited June 17, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 @RossCreekNation: FLA, CBJ, NSH, NYI all apparently on Jason Spezza's no-trade list, per Dreger. Nashville being on there is big. They were one of the top teams rumored. There was also a report that he had all Canadian teams other than Toronto and Montreal on there. So if you assume that's true and Buffalo is on there then: FLA, CBJ, NYI, NSH, BUF, VAN, CAL, WPG would be eight of the ten. Edmonton as well? 9/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Edmonton as well? 9/10 Wait, there's a team in Edmonton? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Wait, there's a team in Edmonton? ;) Yes. The Oil Kings. Reigning Memorial Cup champs. Perhaps you've heard of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yes. The Oil Kings. Reigning Memorial Cup champs. Perhaps you've heard of them? Ah, yes. Mark Pysyk's old squad. I remember hearing that Edmonton needs defense. Why'd they let him go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ah, yes. Mark Pysyk's old squad. I remember hearing that Edmonton needs defense. Why'd they let him go? He had trouble with pullups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 @FriedgeHNIC Carolina and Pittsburgh have asked the LA Kings for permission to interview John Stevens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 David Booth placed on waivers in order to get bought out. He was a damn good player, but never recovered from that Richards hit four years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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