Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if they desperately do that and flame out as the over the hill over priced gang falters. They have actually built up a pretty good stable of young talent but Garth will likely blow it all to hell in order to try and save face. For real. Although, signing a bunch of guys to short deals worked out for Florida a few years ago when they made the playoffs. You'd hope that Garth looks at their current state and realizes it's not a legitimate long-term plan. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @RealKyper: #Leafs remain aggressive in #NHL trade market. The only 4 players I hear they are not actively shopping are Bernier Kessel Bozak and Rielly Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if they desperately do that and flame out as the over the hill over priced gang falters. They have actually built up a pretty good stable of young talent but Garth will likely blow it all to hell in order to try and save face. No organizational depth on the Island. Beyond Tavares, Neilson, and Okposo (who i'm pretty sure will come back down to earth this year) - they don't have much up front. Nobody on the left side. Even less on defense. They may be better next year, but the question is better than who? They don't match up well with anybody. Quote
dudacek Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 No organizational depth on the Island. Beyond Tavares, Neilson, and Okposo (who i'm pretty sure will come back down to earth this year) - they don't have much up front. Nobody on the left side. Even less on defense. They may be better next year, but the question is better than who? They don't match up well with anybody. So I'm not alone on this. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) @TheHockeyGuys According to TSN, Jim Rutherford will be announced as the Penguins new GM. @TSNBobMcKenzie Jim Rutherford is going to be announced as the new GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins. #TSN Edited June 6, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @TheHockeyGuys According to TSN, Jim Rutherford will be announced as the Penguins new GM. @TSNBobMcKenzie Jim Rutherford is going to be announced as the new GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins. #TSN Wow. Didn't expect that. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 So a team that struggles with the blue line and goaltending, and offensive depth, goes out and hires a GM who has trouble assembling a blue line and offensive depth. Brilliant! Quote
Campy Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 A little disappointed; it would have been a lot more fun if Pierre Maguire got the gig... NBC ProHockeyTalk @ProHockeyTalk 7m Report: Jim Rutherford will be Penguins’ new GM http://wp.me/p14QU5-9MNi Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 Wow. Didn't expect that. Further mentoring/grooming of Botterill? Can't see Rutherford as a long term solution at GM. Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 So a team that struggles with the blue line and goaltending, and offensive depth, goes out and hires a GM who has trouble assembling a blue line and offensive depth. Brilliant! Too funny. It just occurred to me Rutherford probably had the worst longest career in net himself. He just wasn't very good for years! The Carolina gm for life goes to Pitt. Actually he often did a decent job managing small market budgets. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 That's definitely a short-term move to mentor somebody, most likely Botterill. Botterill has been a candidate for other jobs. Better hope he's more willing to wait than a guy like Tim Murray. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 On Dan Boyle: worth noting that he had a limited no-trade clause (could list eight teams that he wouldn't accept a trade to). New York must not have been listed. Could also be that he knew he wasn't going to be back in San Jose and didn't care what they did with him. Quote
darksabre Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 On Dan Boyle: worth noting that he had a limited no-trade clause (could list eight teams that he wouldn't accept a trade to). New York must not have been listed. Could also be that he knew he wasn't going to be back in San Jose and didn't care what they did with him. I don't believe trading his rights falls under the NTC since he's not technically Islanders property yet. But I could be wrong. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I don't believe trading his rights falls under the NTC since he's not technically Islanders property yet. But I could be wrong. He's still under contract until July 1st. Got the NMC stuff from here: @JasonGregor: Boyle had a NMC, so it would seem very likely he signs with Islanders. NYI trying to guarantee the 1st rounder Buff gets isn't top-10. Edited June 6, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote
darksabre Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 He's still under contract until July 1st. Got the NMC stuff from here: @JasonGregor: Boyle had a NMC, so it would seem very likely he signs with Islanders. NYI trying to guarantee the 1st rounder Buff gets isn't top-10. Interesting. Is it possible Boyle signs with the Islanders to get SJ the pick, then demands a trade at the deadline to a contender? Because that would be very Islanders. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @NicholsOnHockey Kypreos said on HC@Noon a source believed #Pens had offered McGuire GM job. He wanted five-year deal. They offered two. No confirmation. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 Interesting. Is it possible Boyle signs with the Islanders to get SJ the pick, then demands a trade at the deadline to a contender? Because that would be very Islanders. I think the Isles will have to throw a pretty ridiculous offer Boyle's way to get him to turn away from free agency now. No reason to not hit the open market. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @JoshRimerHockey Now that Penguins have fired Bylsma, he becomes front runner for Florida Panthers Job. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 I know there were rumors Vancouver was waiting on Bylsma, too. It'll be an interesting chase for a bad coach. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 Hard to argue against this point: @FriedgeHNIC Just an astonishing way of doing business. Letting a guy twist in the wind for 21 days then firing him. Brutal. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Pretty clear the Pens didn't fire him right after the playoffs to avoid the "Crosby/Malkin cost Bylsma his job" headlines. Firing a GM can be filed under just not putting together the right supporting cast. Firing the coach right after hiring your new GM can go under claiming that the new GM wanted his own guy. @penguins: Jason Botterill promoted to #Pens Associate GM; Bill Guerin & Tom Fitzgerald named Assistant GMs. Full story → http://t.co/gHgNQWjKoo Associate GM title is a small upgrade from assistant that allows them to keep Botterill happy a little longer. Edited June 6, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @cotsonika Morehouse said the Penguins had a original list of 30 candidates, talked to 22, brought nine to Pittsburgh, brought four back as finalists. Quote
Hoss Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @FriedgeHNIC: "What ownership wants here is a complete change of direction," Rutherford says, including both manager and coach. Not claiming the coaching decision as his own. Quote
X. Benedict Posted June 6, 2014 Report Posted June 6, 2014 @FriedgeHNIC: "What ownership wants here is a complete change of direction," Rutherford says, including both manager and coach. Not claiming the coaching decision as his own. Crazy that Bylsma wasn't let go with Shero. Quote
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