LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Chris Nichols @Nichols_NHLPool NHLPA announces Jamie Langenbrunner's retirement. 1109gp and 663pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oilers trade Dubnyk to Nashville for Matt Hendricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oilers trade Dubnyk to Nashville for Matt Hendricks. This trade doesn't make much sense for Edmonton. Not the Dubnyk was any good, but Bachmann and Bryz have been pretty poor this season and they don't really have anybody in the system. Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod The Oilers have been working the lines pretty heavily lately, I suspect we'll see at least one more move fairly shortly. Seems that Edmonton is trying to make additional moves as their last trade doesn't really address their primary need of legit goaltending. However if I had to think in terms of Buffalo, I would think Jhonas Enroth with another year on his deal would be more of a target for them than Ryan Miller. Speculation on my part of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod The Oilers have been working the lines pretty heavily lately, I suspect we'll see at least one more move fairly shortly. Seems that Edmonton is trying to make additional moves as their last trade doesn't really address their primary need of legit goaltending. However if I had to think in terms of Buffalo, I would think Jhonas Enroth with another year on his deal would be more of a target for them than Ryan Miller. Speculation on my part of course. So if we are offering goaltending and defense, it would take quite a bit to land one of their top 3 forwards (probably even untouchable). So who else would we target? Yakupov and his league worst +/-? Some other lesser prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So if we are offering goaltending and defense, it would take quite a bit to land one of their top 3 forwards (probably even untouchable). So who else would we target? Yakupov and his league worst +/-? Some other lesser prospect? I would target their 1st round pick in either 2014 or 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Boom! Oilers got Ben Scrivens from the Kings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Trade a 61-65th pick for a rental in a lost season? Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Trade a 61-65th pick for a rental in a lost season? Wtf? This is being discussed in the trade deadline thread but... Scrivens is from EDM area and will probably resign with EDM to be their backup 1A type GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I would target their 1st round pick in either 2014 or 2015 but Liger, unless the 1st round pick is top 5 it will take 2-3 years at least for the player to make the NHL, let alone make an impact. That and if you are trading them Miller, the Oilers will (assumedly) be a much better team by 2015, taking us from early first round to mid to late. There comes a point in a rebuild where you stop collecting picks and start seeking young prospects/NHL players so that you peak in the same window. not even mentioning that EDM is supposedly on Miller's no-trade-to-canada list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 but Liger, unless the 1st round pick is top 5 it will take 2-3 years at least for the player to make the NHL, let alone make an impact. That and if you are trading them Miller, the Oilers will (assumedly) be a much better team by 2015, taking us from early first round to mid to late. There comes a point in a rebuild where you stop collecting picks and start seeking young prospects/NHL players so that you peak in the same window. not even mentioning that EDM is supposedly on Miller's no-trade-to-canada list Which is why I never said Miller to edm... I said Enroth. I was wondering if you could leverage a 1st from Edmonton for Enroth if it were conditional. With what just happened with Scrivens, I would guess Enroth would only net you a 2nd at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Which is why I never said Miller to edm... I said Enroth. I was wondering if you could leverage a 1st from Edmonton for Enroth if it were conditional. With what just happened with Scrivens, I would guess Enroth would only net you a 2nd at best. Thing to remember about Scrivens value is he's a UFA at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Miller is a slight upgrade from Scrivens, same contract situation, so does this mean the market is now set for miller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Which is why I never said Miller to edm... I said Enroth. I was wondering if you could leverage a 1st from Edmonton for Enroth if it were conditional. With what just happened with Scrivens, I would guess Enroth would only net you a 2nd at best. Enroth, Islanders' 1st, and Zadorov/Ristolainen/Pysyk/McCabe/Ehrhoff for one of their top 3 forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oilers trade Dubnyk to Nashville for Matt Hendricks. From the Preds perspective this is a very good trade. Pekka Rinne's hip hasn't responded and he won't be back any time soon. And, the goaltending from Hutton and Mazanec in Pekka's absence has been awful. Soft goals all over the place and not a single shootout win. Dubnyk is no all-star, but he is better than what the Preds have. And, Hendricks is a tough SOB but is nothing more than a good character 4th line role player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Miller is a slight upgrade from Scrivens, same contract situation, so does this mean the market is now set for miller? Are you saying Miller's talent is a slight upgrade or his contract situation is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Enroth, Islanders' 1st, and Zadorov/Ristolainen/Pysyk/McCabe/Ehrhoff for one of their top 3 forwards. Despite the haul that your proposed trade is, I still doubt they trade one of Hall/RNH/Eberle. Although if they did, which of the three would you prefer? Miller is a slight upgrade from Scrivens, same contract situation, so does this mean the market is now set for miller? I disagree. Miller is much more than a slight upgrade from Scrivens. In terms of goaltending talent it isn't close IMO, however, the difference in trade returns will not reflect this discrepancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Are you saying Miller's talent is a slight upgrade or his contract situation is better? I disagree. Miller is much more than a slight upgrade from Scrivens. In terms of goaltending talent it isn't close IMO, however, the difference in trade returns will not reflect this discrepancy. Sorry boys. I need a sarcasm emoticon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Despite the haul that your proposed trade is, I still doubt they trade one of Hall/RNH/Eberle. Although if they did, which of the three would you prefer? That's a tough one. I have always really liked Eberle, but I think I'd prefer Hall. That said, I think Eberle and RNH are both more available than Hall. But I really don't want to trade one of our good defensemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 That's a tough one. I have always really liked Eberle, but I think I'd prefer Hall. That said, I think Eberle and RNH are both more available than Hall. But I really don't want to trade one of our good defensemen. I would choose Hall as well. You know how the saying goes - you have to give up something good to get something good. Our team need at forward and our depth at defense means that even trading an 'equal' prospect would benefit our team as a whole. Top D prospect traded away for Top Forward prospect makes us a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I would choose Hall as well. You know how the saying goes - you have to give up something good to get something good. Our team need at forward and our depth at defense means that even trading an 'equal' prospect would benefit our team as a whole. Top D prospect traded away for Top Forward prospect makes us a better team. So Stafford, Leino, and Weber isn't going to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So Stafford, Leino, and Weber isn't going to do it? Without Stafford and Leino who is going to score for the Sabres? We have to keep up the 1.5 goals per game pace.. :bag: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Sorry boys. I need a sarcasm emoticon. We need a troll emoticon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 We need a troll emoticon. I just look for George Costanza. (that's a JOKE!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 http://youtu.be/3xa0WZO8kcU RJ is rolling over in his grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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