JJFIVEOH Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 Florida hasn't gone for quite the three-year everything-must-go plan the Sabres have adopted. But they did try to do it in two years. They sold off a bunch of players to bottom out in 2010 and 2011. This was their haul: 2011) 3. Huberdeau, 33. Grimaldi, 59 Bengtsson 2010) 3. Gudbranson, 19. Bjugstad, 25. Howden, 33. McFarland, 36. Petrovic, 50. Brickley Suffering comes with no guarantees. Florida went through quite a bit bigger overhaul than the Sabres. You're missing a few draft picks. Quote
sicknfla Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 @EJHradek_NHL Dale Tallon is on the clock. I expect FLA's new ownership group to clean out its hockey operations staff before the start of next season You mean all new owners don't keep their GM's?? Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Posted November 8, 2013 Florida went through quite a bit bigger overhaul than the Sabres. You're missing a few draft picks. Here are the 1st and 2nd round picks for Florida since 2010 2010: 3 Erik Gudbranson, 19 Nick Bjugstad, 25 Quinton Howden, 33 John McFarland, 36 Alex Petrovic, 50 Connor Brickley 2011: 3 Jonathan Huberdeau, 33 Rocco Grimaldi, 59 Rasmus Bengtsson 2012: 23 Mike Matheson 2013: 2 Aleksander Barkov, 31 Ian McCoshen Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 You mean all new owners don't keep their GM's?? Novel idea huh? Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 It would be a bad idea to get rid of Tallon. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 Wasn't he was canned by Trotz for Housley? Here was with the Preds for 10 years. It was time for a change. I think Housley was brought in, in part, to work with all of the young d-men in Nashville. Quote
inkman Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 GR's bulldog tweeted an article from a Flyers' beat reporter and, based on that, raised the idea that we could use some of our picks (including next year's #1, i infer) in an offer for giroux. Not sure it's even possible, but, if it is: Yes, please. https://twitter.com/Bulldogwgr/status/398787043415035904 If we can agree Giroux is more valuable than Pominville & Vanek, what kind of insane package would you have to put together to get him? If next years number one is on the table (we hope Reinhart becomes Giroux, right?) the Sabres would have to include at least two of Girgensons, Pysyk, Compher, and Hurley (just guessing). Quote
Hoss Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 Get Dineen and Ramsay back into the Sabres organization. Please no. I want whole new blood. Everywhere. No more bringing back some old guys (unless it's former players from a while back like Housley/LaFontaine). Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Posted November 8, 2013 If we can agree Giroux is more valuable than Pominville & Vanek, what kind of insane package would you have to put together to get him? If next years number one is on the table (we hope Reinhart becomes Giroux, right?) the Sabres would have to include at least two of Girgensons, Pysyk, Compher, and Hurley (just guessing). You know why in the last draft I really liked Sean Monahan? He was on a downright terrible team, it lacked talent, and despite all that he produced points at a steady pace and lead his team. He made those around him better than they were and has carried that to the NHL. Giroux has watched his production slide in part because Van Riemsdyk left and I think Giroux is not as good as that 1 93pt season makes us think he is. Not saying I wouldn't love the guy on my team but I am not sure if there is a price that I would find reasonable for him. Quote
JJFIVEOH Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Please no. I want whole new blood. Everywhere. No more bringing back some old guys (unless it's former players from a while back like Housley/LaFontaine). And Ramsay. At least Ramsay could teach these guys how to dress. Edited November 8, 2013 by JJFIVEOH Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Please no. I want whole new blood. Everywhere. No more bringing back some old guys (unless it's former players from a while back like Housley/LaFontaine). You do know that Ramsay played for the Sabres for 10+ years, right? EDIT: Damn you, JJ ... :P Edited November 8, 2013 by Sabres Fan In NS Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 8, 2013 Report Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Hmmm, the Oil trade a D Man: @FAN590 According to reports, Ladislav Smid has been traded to Calgary for prospects. #Oilers #Flames #NHL @aaronward_nhl Bryzgalov to Edmonton #tsn @cbcsports BREAKING: #Oilers agree to 1-year deal with goalie Ilya Bryzgalov #hockeynight #NHL #CBCSports Edited November 9, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Quote
Hoss Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 You do know that Ramsay played for the Sabres for 10+ years, right? EDIT: Damn you, JJ ... :P Yeap. Was talking more about Dineen. I know a few people complained when he was having success in Florida saying how we missed an opportunity by not giving him the HC job. Quote
darksabre Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Hmmm, the Oil trade a D Man: @FAN590 According to reports, Ladislav Smid has been traded to Calgary for prospects. #Oilers #Flames #NHL @aaronward_nhl Bryzgalov to Edmonton #tsn @cbcsports BREAKING: #Oilers agree to 1-year deal with goalie Ilya Bryzgalov #hockeynight #NHL #CBCSports I hope Bryz finds success in Edmonton. I genuinely like the guy. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 I hope Bryz finds success in Edmonton. I genuinely like the guy. We'll see how it works out, but moving Smid is not the greatest move IMO: @GenePrincipe Edm has verbal agreement with Bryz. However they don't have cap space to sign him til Smid passes physical with Cgy to complete that trade. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Jesse Winchester suspended 3 games: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=479923&lang=en Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 THN:Panthers problems go much, much deeper than coaching staff Ask any coach in professional sports and he’ll tell you that fairness is not part of the equation when it comes to his chosen employment. He’ll also tell you if you want job security, go work at the post office. Just don’t expect the paycheck to have the same number of digits before the decimal point. And that, in a nutshell, explains the Kevin Dineen firing in Florida today. For some reason, GM Dale Tallon figured over the summer it would be a good idea to extend a contract offer to every NHL senior citizen who was looking for work. The Panthers are 29th in payroll because they don’t have near the revenues to justify spending much over the lower limit of the salary cap and their key players are underachieving. Quote
SwampD Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 THN:Panthers problems go much, much deeper than coaching staff Ask any coach in professional sports and he’ll tell you that fairness is not part of the equation when it comes to his chosen employment. He’ll also tell you if you want job security, go work at the post office. Just don’t expect the paycheck to have the same number of digits before the decimal point. And that, in a nutshell, explains the Kevin Dineen firing in Florida today. For some reason, GM Dale Tallon figured over the summer it would be a good idea to extend a contract offer to every NHL senior citizen who was looking for work. The Panthers are 29th in payroll because they don’t have near the revenues to justify spending much over the lower limit of the salary cap and their key players are underachieving. fixed or THN:Panthers problems go much, much deeper than coaching staff "Ask any coach in professional sports and he’ll tell you that fairness is not part of the equation when it comes to his chosen employment. He’ll also tell you if you want job security, go work at the post office. Just don’t expect the paycheck to have the same number of digits before the decimal point. And that, in a nutshell, explains the Kevin Dineen firing in Florida today. For some reason, GM Dale Tallon figured over the summer it would be a good idea to extend a contract offer to every NHL senior citizen who was looking for work. The Panthers are 29th in payroll because they don’t have near the revenues to justify spending much over the lower limit of the salary cap and their key players are underachieving." also fixed. It's hard to tell what's you and what is from the Oracle. Sorry, last night made me cranky. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 fixed or also fixed. It's hard to tell what's you and what is from the Oracle. Sorry, last night made me cranky. Is Oracle supposed to be article? :huh: At any rate, I hope you get over it. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Flyers get the benefit of a horrible call: @EyeOnHockey VIDEO: Anton Belov given match penalty on apparent clean check on Claude Giroux http://cbsprt.co/1huSUP8 Quote
dudacek Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Lots of scuttlebutt that Eberle is the young star the Oilers have decided to jettison to fix their team and it's going to happen soon. We need to be all over that. Quote
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Lots of scuttlebutt that Eberle is the young star the Oilers have decided to jettison to fix their team and it's going to happen soon. We need to be all over that. Darcy absolutely needs to be in on this guy if he's available. Quote
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Lots of scuttlebutt that Eberle is the young star the Oilers have decided to jettison to fix their team and it's going to happen soon. We need to be all over that. Hells yeah.... Quote
HopefulFuture Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Lots of scuttlebutt that Eberle is the young star the Oilers have decided to jettison to fix their team and it's going to happen soon. We need to be all over that. Darren Dreger says otherwise :P Darren Dreger: In the eyes of Oilers management, Jordan Eberle will be an Oiler forever. He’s not a trade target GM of team A can inquirer or look into any player they'd like, that doesn't mean team B, who has aforementioned player, is going to trade them however. Quote
LTS Posted November 9, 2013 Report Posted November 9, 2013 Bottom line is the Oilers are going to have to dump someone at some point and everyone knows it. They can say they won't, but they will. Quote
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