Eleven Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 My point is the opposite of the bold part: Bad branding can be related to the final quality of the product -- because ultimately the same people are in charge of both things. This is basically what I do for a living and I can tell you generally (not always) the good products come with good branding. The same people approve both. As for the Jags, the "people responsible" are the owner and team president. Creative agencies don't give final approval. Is it impossible to win if you can't get your uniforms right? No. But it's a statement about basic competence at the top of the organization. And FWIW the team does get other things right that do suggest they're well-run -- fan experience and even HarborCenter. But the idea that uniforms/branding don't mean anything is way off. Since you conveniently and completely ignored my examples of horrid jerseys that are associated with dynasties, what about the opposite? What about good branding? What about: Cubs Red Sox Maple Leafs Chi Bears Jets (football) Raiders (irrelevant since what, 1980? or the whipping they got in 1990?) Reds Indians Eagles Dodgers--especially if you look back to Brooklyn Knicks How many more do we need? Good teams are good teams, irrespective of uniforms and/or branding. PS I'll add the Rags to that list.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 Just passing through, but somehow it appears this thread has turned into jerseys=wins......the enthusiasm is appreciated on this end...... But Please please just start the season so at least the quarrels on here have some sort of relevance :)
TrueBlueGED Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 My point is the opposite of the bold part: Bad branding can be related to the final quality of the product -- because ultimately the same people are in charge of both things. This is basically what I do for a living and I can tell you generally (not always) the good products come with good branding. The same people approve both. As for the Jags, the "people responsible" are the owner and team president. Creative agencies don't give final approval. Is it impossible to win if you can't get your uniforms right? No. But it's a statement about basic competence at the top of the organization. And FWIW the team does get other things right that do suggest they're well-run -- fan experience and even HarborCenter. But the idea that uniforms/branding don't mean anything is way off. What about the idea that uniform quality is so subjective? I can't believe you think such a subjective thing is seriously related to the quality of the organization's decision makers. I've said before that I think yellow/gold uniforms, by default, tend to be pretty ugly. Even a simple uniform which would have you jumping for joy, I'd probably find unappealing. Whose opinion is the correct one by which to judge the decision makers involved? Since you conveniently and completely ignored my examples of horrid jerseys that are associated with dynasties, what about the opposite? What about good branding? What about: Cubs Red Sox Maple Leafs Chi Bears Jets (football) Raiders (irrelevant since what, 1980? or the whipping they got in 1990?) Reds Indians Eagles Dodgers--especially if you look back to Brooklyn Knicks How many more do we need? Good teams are good teams, irrespective of uniforms and/or branding. PS I'll add the Rags to that list. You're obviously misreading those teams' records. If a team makes a good branding decision, how can we expect them to not make good hockey decisions? I mean if they're getting the simple things right, surely they must be getting the complicated things right too!
wonderbread Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 Has anyone seen the new C & A patches? I scrolled thru and didn't see mention of it.
qwksndmonster Posted August 28, 2013 Report Posted August 28, 2013 Has anyone seen the new C & A patches? I scrolled thru and didn't see mention of it. Yeah we saw 'em. Most of us thought they were cool, too. Robviously said they were going to be our downfall this season, though.
wonderbread Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Yeah we saw 'em. Most of us thought they were cool, too. Robviously said they were going to be our downfall this season, though. Thanks. I think they're sweet looking.
spndnchz Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Some controversy about it. The "C" and "A" are only supposed to be approximately 3 inches tall. With the Sabres logos on them they are over the 3 inches. But technically it's only the actual C and A that need to be under 3 inches.
TrueBlueGED Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Yeah we saw 'em. Most of us thought they were cool, too. Robviously said they were going to be our downfall this season, though. I hope for his sake he hasn't seen the USA jerseys for Sochi :lol:
Stoner Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Some controversy about it. The "C" and "A" are only supposed to be approximately 3 inches tall. With the Sabres logos on them they are over the 3 inches. But technically it's only the actual C and A that need to be under 3 inches. The Sabres and more than three inches — the concept is throwing me off.
nobody Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Some controversy about it. The "C" and "A" are only supposed to be approximately 3 inches tall. With the Sabres logos on them they are over the 3 inches. But technically it's only the actual C and A that need to be under 3 inches. Suck it NHL.
nobody Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Pants. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS212oICIAAq6nO.jpg:large
TrueBlueGED Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Pants. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS212oICIAAq6nO.jpg:large Not nearly simple enough. This team is doomed.
G-Daddy Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Pants. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS212oICIAAq6nO.jpg:large Reebok is way too large (but I'm sure they paid handsomely for that).
MattPie Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Pants. https://pbs.twimg.co...Aq6nO.jpg:large
LGR4GM Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Pants. https://pbs.twimg.co...Aq6nO.jpg:large Shorts
IKnowPhysics Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Shorts Shells. A little much with the gray. We'll see how it goes.
darksabre Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 Shells. A little much with the gray. We'll see how it goes. I'm officially tired of this "touch of grey" B.S.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 I'm officially tired of this "touch of grey" B.S. :wub:
qwksndmonster Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 I hope the socks are horizontally striped yellow and gray.
darksabre Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 I hope the socks are horizontally striped yellow and gray. They're going to be, just to piss me off. What are we, the Predators?
Stoner Posted August 29, 2013 Report Posted August 29, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l38YXrGJxx0 :wub: Shades of Gray by… never mind.
qwksndmonster Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 They're going to be, just to piss me off. What are we, the Predators? Well, our mascot is a saber tooth... something.
Claude_Verret Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l38YXrGJxx0 :wub: Now there's an idea. Tie-dye thirds.
SwampD Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Now there's an idea. Tie-dye thirds. I'd buy that jersey.
BetterDays06 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 Whats the date this jersey will be revealed??
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