26CornerBlitz Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 He got the last job available and his only competition came down to Torts. I'm not entirely surprised Lindy was the last coach hired. And it appeared to me he was not Dallas' first choice. Vancouver has yet to hire their HC.
X. Benedict Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 He took the only job available and Dallas took the best coach left. I said it a month ago it was Dallas or Bust. Jobs open up. There was nothing compelling him to take Dallas. Dallas or Bust sounds a bit hyperbolic. There will be those on the hot seat. Lindy's name wasn't going to go away.
Weave Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Vancouver has yet to hire their HC. Argh. I was thinking Eakins ended up there.
Eleven Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Vancouver has yet to hire their HC. Was just about to say this.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Was just about to say this. This just in: @garylawless NHL source tells me John Tortorella has been offered #Canucks job and two sides are close to a deal #nhl #canucks Torts will coach Canucks
X. Benedict Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 This just in: @garylawless NHL source tells me John Tortorella has been offered #Canucks job and two sides are close to a deal #nhl #canucks Torts will coach Canucks Interesting how that flip-flop went.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Jobs open up. There was nothing compelling him to take Dallas. Dallas or Bust sounds a bit hyperbolic. There will be those on the hot seat. Lindy's name wasn't going to go away. Who here said he wouldn't get hired or that he wouldn't be a constant candidate? When reports came out and said he was the favorite in Vancouver and you can bet on it....I offered to wager that there was no way he would end up there. NY...no way he was headed there either. The shocking thing is that Ruff wasn't even mentioned in Edmonton....pretty much his hometown, on a team with tons of young talent. Dallas or Bust....I said it, it happened..... Vancouver is waiting on Torts to figure out his plan.......
IKnowPhysics Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 only job available last job available Really? This is what we're going with? Vancouver has yet to hire their HC.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Interesting how that flip-flop went. Indeed it is.
Weave Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Really? This is what we're going with? No need to douche it up when I've already ceded the point.
Hoss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Lindy is hilarious... "I said to [Nill] when I agreed to meet with him, 'we can meet, but we can't meet in the crease'"-Ruff joking about '99 #StanleyCup finals
X. Benedict Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Who here said he wouldn't get hired or that he wouldn't be a constant candidate? When reports came out and said he was the favorite in Vancouver and you can bet on it....I offered to wager that there was no way he would end up there. NY...no way he was headed there either. The shocking thing is that Ruff wasn't even mentioned in Edmonton....pretty much his hometown, on a team with tons of young talent. Dallas or Bust....I said it, it happened..... Vancouver is waiting on Torts to figure out his plan....... Okay....good call then.....I think it was the "Bust" part I wasn't getting, to my ear I thought you were suggesting he was unemployable otherwise.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 So you still think Ruff ends up in NY? I think the rest of the league knows what the deal is. A 38 year old Lindy may have been a good fit. Dallas or Bust. And I did not bag on Ruff.....I responded to those who gloated directly at me and wanted to compare a GM who has Cup rings on both his hands from coaching and managing, and a coach who has won a Cup while winning 3 playoff series in the past 12 months, to Darcy and Lindy. I would love to see Torts coach the US olympic team. He'd be perfect for them. Yeah....that's why Lindy is in tough. The top 2 openings are of teams that 1) Took every power forward off the Sabres roster that failed to thrive under Ruff (Pyatt, Bernier, Torres, Mancari, Kassian)...and the other just had a coach that was a more concentrated version of Ruff, at least personality-wise. I do think that behind closed doors, Torts is more of a philosopher/general, and Lindy is more a teacher. Lindy and Dallas are shooting goo-goo eyes at each other like two fatties at the prom...... Not at all....I've said from Day 1 Dallas is the only place for Lindy. Torts goes to Vancouver or heads up an Olympic group for next year. I feel bad for Ruff supporters, because I don't think you are going to see Lindy have much success in Dallas. What I find sad is that Ruff wasn't even whispered for his hometown gig in Edmonton. He would have been salivating to get his hands on all that young, soft talent! Lindy should have jumped at Tampa. He was a decent fit and liked the area. Okay....good call then.....I think it was the "Bust" part I wasn't getting, to my ear I thought you were suggesting he was unemployable otherwise. I've always said Lindy is a decent coach and can be even better and on his game in the playoffs. It was just so obvious that the groupthink and status quo in Buffalo for so long needed to get dismantled. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find one poster here that has said Ruff would not get hired somewhere at some point. I HAVE said there is 0.01% chance Darcy Regier would get another NHL GM job if he ever left Buffalo.
IKnowPhysics Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 No need to douche it up when I've already ceded the point. Maybe I'm posting from work and something work-related drew my attention away from the post I started editting for five minutes and I didn't care to read the updates before I sent the post off. Or maybe if you cared enough to know what you're talking about, I wouldn't have to consider sending that post in the first place. :D ###### happens. Let's call it even.
waldo Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 ?? The Rangers have made several decisions that have not work out well for them recently, IMO..Result. big budget, no cup. no scoring, SO why would they make the right decision and hire the perfect fit for their scheme/system. They did not... Another bad decision. They are on a run. Ruff was perfect.
X. Benedict Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 I've always said Lindy is a decent coach and can be even better and on his game in the playoffs. It was just so obvious that the groupthink and status quo in Buffalo for so long needed to get dismantled. In fact, you would be hard-pressed to find one poster here that has said Ruff would not get hired somewhere at some point. I HAVE said there is 0.01% chance Darcy Regier would get another NHL GM job if he ever left Buffalo. I actually think Dallas is a good spot for Lindy because they can only really move up and Nill is going to use a patient model. I think Torts job in Vancouver is a trickier, because that franchise is already declining IMO.
dudacek Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 I actually think Dallas is a good spot for Lindy because they can only really move up and Nill is going to use a patient model. I think Torts job in Vancouver is a trickier, because that franchise is already declining IMO. Bang on. Fireworks are coming in Vancouver because of an impatient market and a team whose window has closed. That will be true no matter who is coaching. Jim Nill will be taking the long view with a low-expectation team and any coach would smart to hitch his wagon to him.
X. Benedict Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Bang on. Fireworks are coming in Vancouver because of an impatient market and a team whose window has closed. That will be true no matter who is coaching. Jim Nill will be taking the long view with a low-expectation team and any coach would smart to hitch his wagon to him. Nill with Lindy.....I would have liked that in Buffalo.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 21, 2013 Report Posted June 21, 2013 Nill with Lindy.....I would have liked that in Buffalo. We already have a Nill at GM....... :cry:
Jsixspd Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 We already have a Nill at GM....... :cry: More like a Null......
... Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 Ruff is now a traitor. Baloney. Ruff was fired by the Sabres' weasel-in-chief and forced to go elsewhere. He would have stayed here if he could.
bunomatic Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 Baloney. Ruff was fired by the Sabres' weasel-in-chief and forced to go elsewhere. He would have stayed here if he could. Exactly. Ruff didn't jump ship but he is the enemy.
darksabre Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 I'm having sellers remorse seeing Lindy go to Dallas. I'd have preferred firing Darcy over this result.
Stoner Posted June 22, 2013 Report Posted June 22, 2013 Did anybody ask Lindy how much input he had into the roster in Buffalo?
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