JJFIVEOH Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Yeah, as I said, it is against my nature to wish anything but the most brilliant success for Rolston as a Sabres head coach. I just would feel a lot better if the Sabres announced that he was the new head coach after having talked to people like Dallas Eakins and whatever else is out there before deciding we're sticking with what we have. Feels like a pretend rebuild the way things are going right now. Nobody knows that they didn't.
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Nobody knows that they didn't. Didn't Darcy Regier say in the press conference when Rolston was made whole that they hadn't interviewed any other candidates because it was already clear that Rolston was the guy?
JJFIVEOH Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 Didn't Darcy Regier say in the press conference when Rolston was made whole that they hadn't interviewed any other candidates because it was already clear that Rolston was the guy? I can't recall. If he did, then I take back what I said. On the other hand, I can see him not mentioning it even if he did. He gets chastised enough as it is, if he threw a name out the media would have a field day with him. :lol:
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 It's water under the bridge anyways, I hate how the Sabres makes me feel like a grumpy old man these days. Oh well, these days will be something to brag to the grandchildren about when <yet unborn player> raises the cup for the Sabres.
JJFIVEOH Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 It's water under the bridge anyways, I hate how the Sabres makes me feel like a grumpy old man these days. Oh well, these days will be something to brag to the grandchildren about when <yet unborn player> raises the cup for the Sabres. In your defense, if they had any intentions of looking elsewhere they would have waited until after the playoffs to see who else would have been available. I'm not as pessimistic as some on here about Rolston, although I'm not too enthused about watching his type of hockey. I'd like to see some kind of offense. He did manage to rack up only 11 regulation losses in 31 games with a very inexperienced roster and remain in contention up until the last few games.
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted June 5, 2013 Report Posted June 5, 2013 In your defense, if they had any intentions of looking elsewhere they would have waited until after the playoffs to see who else would have been available. I'm not as pessimistic as some on here about Rolston, although I'm not too enthused about watching his type of hockey. I'd like to see some kind of offense. He did manage to rack up only 11 regulation losses in 31 games with a very inexperienced roster and remain in contention up until the last few games. For me it's not about Rolston, it's about the very ho-hum approach. If I felt that they had seriously vetted other well qualified candidates and still felt Rolston was the man, I'd have no complaints. At least I can pretend I would have no complaints, I am sure I could think of something
bunomatic Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 For me it's not about Rolston, it's about the very ho-hum approach. If I felt that they had seriously vetted other well qualified candidates and still felt Rolston was the man, I'd have no complaints. At least I can pretend I would have no complaints, I am sure I could think of something It just seems like the Sabres aren't all that interested in winning. Retaining Regier, making it official with Rolston without doing due diligence, you could say the firing of Ruff. Anyone care to add to the list ?
Jsixspd Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 Didn't Darcy Regier say in the press conference when Rolston was made whole that they hadn't interviewed any other candidates because it was already clear that Rolston was the guy? If he did, it shows just how passive and inept he is as a GM - There should have been 'due diligence' exercised in a search for a coach. But, Regier getting re-signed to a long-term extension made the team a less attractive place to work for a Stanley-Cup caliber coach, IMHO. Look how bad this "Team That Darcy Built" is! Pegula's premature re-signing of Regier, unnecessarily (what team was going to ###### him away from us, pray tell?) narrowed the team's near-future options, again similar to Ralph Wilson Jr. offering an idiotic contract extension to Dick Jauron. Pegula just doesn't seem to have a clue, I'm sorry. He can have all the money in the world, but if he hitches the team's wagon to a loser of a weasel like Regier, we go nowhere.
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 If he did, it shows just how passive and inept he is as a GM - There should have been 'due diligence' exercised in a search for a coach. But, Regier getting re-signed to a long-term extension made the team a less attractive place to work for a Stanley-Cup caliber coach, IMHO. Look how bad this "Team That Darcy Built" is! Pegula's premature re-signing of Regier, unnecessarily (what team was going to ###### him away from us, pray tell?) narrowed the team's near-future options, again similar to Ralph Wilson Jr. offering an idiotic contract extension to Dick Jauron. Pegula just doesn't seem to have a clue, I'm sorry. He can have all the money in the world, but if he hitches the team's wagon to a loser of a weasel like Regier, we go nowhere. I am sure there are many aspects of being an NHL owner that has caught Pegula by surprise. Seems like he went in with the assumption that we had great pieces in place, and just needed some cash to be a real contender. The funny part is I think he was right in a way, but he didn't realize what pieces were missing. The Sabres needed a 'Hockey operations' kind of guy in the worst possible way. By that I mean someone who thinks and understand the game to develop a path forward for what kind of players and style we should aspire to get, then let Darcy do the work of getting the pieces he identifies and fitting it under the cap. Regier has shown himself capable of getting pieces, not good at identifying which pieces to get. To fix that problem should have been the first thing Pegula did with his money, but here we are years later trying to fix the same problem with the same tools.
LTS Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 For me it's not about Rolston, it's about the very ho-hum approach. If I felt that they had seriously vetted other well qualified candidates and still felt Rolston was the man, I'd have no complaints. At least I can pretend I would have no complaints, I am sure I could think of something I'm not saying that you, or anyone else on here who wanted a thorough search would, but let's say they did go through the process and still selected Rolston. What are the odds that we would hear the argument "The process was a show. They did this to try and placate the fans. Clearly they are clueless, they still picked Rolston. It's DR's guy and he wanted him. The rest was a show." It seems that no matter what happens we are willing to blast the Sabres. They improved under Rolston and we want to slam them for keeping him. We haven't seen their plan with Vanek and Miller and we are slamming them. I know people have no faith in DR yet he seems to be acquiring pieces that will make a difference. That it doesn't happen at the speed people consider fast enough is the problem. It seems that happens a lot in sports. The GM is fired and then a year or two later the team has major success. The pieces in play are pretty much from the GM but the new guy gets the credit. It's not always the case and I understand where people come from on DR but there is so much more that could be speculated on to understand the situations that have transpired. Oh well.
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 I am sure there are many people who would bag on the choice regardless. I for one is not that jazzed about Rolston as head coach, but I hope he turns out to be great. My only problem is in the mindset in how he ended up as our coach. To me it reeks of complacency and settling for 'good enough'. The very definition of the Sabres themselves right now. I would have loved to see the Sabres go out with the mindset that they were getting the best head coach in the world, and if that ended up with them retaining Ron Rolston because he's the best they can find that will take the job, then fine.
TrueBlueGED Posted June 6, 2013 Report Posted June 6, 2013 Good a time as any to put this here: http://www.suu.edu/faculty/berri/IJSF4-2CoachingPaper.pdf More evidence coaching isn't as big of a deal as it's made out to be. Short version: the greatest coaches of all time (Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich in particular) are distinguishable only from the very worst coaches--differences wash out when considering typical coaches. That said, here's some caveats from the research: 1) This isn't for the faint of heart. If you don't think a coach's impact can be quantified, don't waste your time reading. 2) It's based on the NBA, where individual players are more important than other sports. 3) The measure for player performance they use disaggregates field goals made into two and three pointers, but doesn't do the same for field goals missed. Not sure it would matter, but it doesn't make sense to do it this way. 4) They stretch their interpretation of some results a bit far. For instance, they find that most players who improve under a certain coach go on to continue that performance after they or the coach leaves. They then proceed to claim this is evidence against the importance of coaching--if coaching mattered, then the player should regress after the player/coach are separated. This completely ignores any possible lasting developmental impact coaching may have. Anyway, it's a good read if you're into this kind of stuff.
LGR4GM Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 So after this Toronto thing and how not only the players but also how specifically Ron handled it what are ppl's thoughts? To me he seemed to handle it quite well as did his team. They didn't dwell on it and they didn't really comment about it afterwards. They just took it in stride and rolled on. Now outside of that we have Rolston in the preseson in which we have seen quite a few different line looks in which Rolston has given guys a lot of time in different situations in order to evaluate them. I like that he rotated captains in the preseason but has also said that at the beginning of the reg season, he is naming a captain and thats that. He seems to have a really good head on his shoulders and conducts himself well. The only real issue is he has the worst tie and shirt combination ever! Seriously he needs some style help.
JJFIVEOH Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 The Sabres need to bring in Craig Ramsay as Wardrobe Assistant.
IKnowPhysics Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 No complaints so far. Kids are looking good, and I hope they're well-prepared. Long road ahead.
qwksndmonster Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 I hope Rolston's a badass. A nerdy looking badass.
shrader Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 I hope Rolston's a badass. A nerdy looking badass. You know all those movies where the nerdy chick takes off her glasses and lets her hair down and all of a sudden she looks like a playboy playmate? Maybe Rolston is the NHL coaching equivalent.
LastPommerFan Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 You know all those movies where the nerdy chick takes off her glasses and lets her hair down and all of a sudden she looks like a playboy playmate? Maybe Rolston is the NHL coaching equivalent. IMAGES CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!
JJFIVEOH Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 Rolston looks better with the beard. Seems to mask some of the nerdiness. Maybe he'll pull a Brian Wilson come playoff time to intimidate the opponent.
... Posted September 26, 2013 Report Posted September 26, 2013 You know all those movies where the nerdy chick takes off her glasses and lets her hair down and all of a sudden she looks like a playboy playmate? Maybe Rolston is the NHL coaching equivalent. If that's how you swing...hey!
bunomatic Posted September 27, 2013 Report Posted September 27, 2013 I hope Rolston's a badass. A nerdy looking badass. A Clark Kent type ?
qwksndmonster Posted September 27, 2013 Report Posted September 27, 2013 A Clark Kent type ? He was very diplomatic about the suspension. I can see him being a wry coach who gets his players going. And when the ref comes over for an explanation as to why Weber ran Rask, Rolston will be super polite.
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