LastPommerFan Posted April 30, 2013 Report Posted April 30, 2013 Oof. Okay - I get to play judge and legislature. Sorta fun. If anyone else wants to take a stab at it in the meantime, have at it. http://youtu.be/4_n7TRmkojY Quote
Stoner Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Posted April 30, 2013 Oof. Okay - I get to play judge and legislature. Sorta fun. If anyone else wants to take a stab at it in the meantime, have at it. Are you good with needles too? Quote
North Buffalo Posted April 30, 2013 Report Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Oof. Okay - I get to play judge and legislature. Sorta fun. If anyone else wants to take a stab at it in the meantime, have at it. Oof. Okay - I get to play judge and legislature. Sorta fun. If anyone else wants to take a stab at it in the meantime, have at it. Hey, I only did appropriations work, I have no idea how to write this kind language except to say that none of the funds necessary to carry out said Act may be used to fund the salaries or benefits whose duties require them administer or adjudicate said Act. Edited April 30, 2013 by North Buffalo Quote
That Aud Smell Posted May 1, 2013 Report Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Judge Smell, I respectfully submit that your definition of meddling is too narrow. A general manager's duties extend beyond personnel decisions, to matters of hiring (predominantly the coach), strategic direction of the franchise, allocation of financial and other resources, and more. Further revised proposal on SabresSpace Aud Club Penal Code Section 39.0: (a) First Degree. An Owner is guilty of meddling in the first degree when he or she makes any Decision without regard to or in direct contravention of the advice of the Owner's General Manager. A violation of this sub-section shall be deemed a Class C Felony. (b) Second Degree. An Owner is guilty of meddling in the second degree when he or she makes any Decision concerning and in the course of making such Decision requests and receives the advice of the Owner's General Manager. A violation of this sub-section shall be deemed a Class D Felony. ( c ) Third Degree. An Owner is guilty of meddling in the third degree when he or she causes his or her General Manager to alter, change, or modify a Decision. A violation of this sub-section shall be deemed a Class C Felony. (d) Fourth Degree. An Owner is guilty of meddling in the fourth degree when he or she is Substantially Involved in any Personnel Decision concerning a Player. A violation of this sub-section shall be deemed a Class A Misdemeanor. (e) Defenses. It shall not be a violation of any provision in this Section for an Owner to request and/or receive reports from his or her General Manager regarding any Proposed Decisions. (f) Defined Terms. (1) "Owner" means the majority owner of an NHL franchise and shall include his or her team president and any alternate member of the NHL's board of governors appointed by said Owner. (2) "General Manager" means the person with that title who reports to the Owner in question and shall include all people who report directly or indirectly to the General Manager. (3) "Decision" includes any "Personnel Decision" and further includes any final and publicly-communicated decision concerning any of the following: (i) the hiring, firing, and/or retention of the team's head coach, (ii) nationality, age, style of play, or any physical attributes of Players targeted by team for potential Proposed Personnel Decisions, (iii) management of the team's financial resources relative to the NHL salary cap and/or the team's internal operating budget. (4) "Personnel Decision" means a final and publicly-communicated decision to acquire, trade, sign, release, waive, draft, and/or recruit any Player. (5) "Proposed Decision" means a proposal on a Decision that is not yet final and/or not made public by the General Manager or Owner. (6) "Proposed Personnel Decision" means a proposal on a Personnel Decision that is not yet final and/or not made public by the General Manager or Owner. (7) "Player" means any hockey player who is now rostered in the NHL or AHL, has been rostered in the NHL or AHL within the last 12 months, or is eligible to be rostered to an NHL and/or AHL franchise. (8) "Substantially Involved" means any efforts to investigate, evaluate, and/or deliberate on a Proposed Personnel Decision and/or a Personnel Decision. Edited May 1, 2013 by That Aud Smell Quote
Stoner Posted May 1, 2013 Author Report Posted May 1, 2013 Co-prosecutor Mr. Deluca, do you wish to comment? Quote
That Aud Smell Posted May 2, 2013 Report Posted May 2, 2013 In the absence of further objection, we will ask that prosecution present a brief indictment pursuant to the last version of Section 39 above. The prosecution should indicate whether it is also seeking a conviction on a lesser included offense (i.e., if you're charging first degree, will you also charge all the way down to fourth degree). Quote
wjag Posted May 7, 2013 Report Posted May 7, 2013 Looks like another exhibit was added today. Rolson will be a witness for the defense and prosecution. Quote
Jerry Jabber Posted May 7, 2013 Report Posted May 7, 2013 The charge: meddling. I'm more than happy to lead the prosecution. I'm serious. I think it could be fun. We'll pick jurors, have opening and closing arguments, deliberation, a verdict. Anyone want to defend him? Throw your name into the jury pool? P.S. We need a judge. I've never seen chz in a black robe, but if anybody could "clear a courtroom"... Where were you years ago with Ralph Wilson. You could have started this back in the 1960's with him and every decade since. Quote
Stoner Posted May 7, 2013 Author Report Posted May 7, 2013 Where were you years ago with Ralph Wilson. You could have started this back in the 1960's with him and every decade since. I didn't get my Internet law degree until 2013. Quote
X. Benedict Posted May 7, 2013 Report Posted May 7, 2013 I didn't get my Internet law degree until 2013. My J.D.b.s. degree was something I earned in less than 18 months. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 Terry Pegula says he talks to Darcy Regier more than his own wife. http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2013/06/pegula-backs-regier-as-sabres-gm-owner-concerned-about-status-of-vanek-miller.html And, with that, I'm probably obliged to recuse myself, since I am now entering evidence for the prosecution. Quote
Stoner Posted June 18, 2013 Author Report Posted June 18, 2013 Your honor, before you do so, the prosecution, citing the Charlie McCarthy hearings and American Tuba Company v. Warren P. Smith, officially withdraws all charges. There just ain't no point anymore. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 I've come through to the other side and have something of a morbid fascination with watching this all go down. And, really. What did I really expect in February 2011 and in the months that followed? That our billionaire fan-owner was going to keep the under-performing incumbent GM on a short leash and, following a failed 2011-2012 campaign, bring in cherry-picked hockey savants from the Detroit, Boston, L.A., and/or Pittsburgh systems, and then stand back at a healthy distance in relative anonymity and allow them to go to work as they saw fit? So he's a meddlesome owner. So what. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 Your honor, before you do so, the prosecution, citing the Charlie McCarthy hearings and American Tuba Company v. Warren P. Smith, officially withdraws all charges. There just ain't no point anymore. Case dismissed. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 I object! Just because my wife and i talk a lot does not mean she ever listens or follows my advice. See Rose v. Rose. Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) I object! Just because my wife and i talk a lot does not mean she ever listens or follows my advice. See Rose v. Rose. Sustained, I agree, even when my wife and I talk, I lose every arguement and she always gets the last word. I think at this point the prosecution should rest. The evidence is in and I think it is a slam dunk... err wrong sport, the biscuit is in the basket, guility as charged.... Edited June 18, 2013 by North Buffalo Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Not to mention the fact that, while not in this courtroom, he pretty much admitted that he was guilty earlier today. We all heard it, right? Right!?! Edited June 18, 2013 by Sabres Fan In NS Quote
spndnchz Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 Sustained, I agree, even when my wife and I talk, I lose every arguement and she always gets the last word. I think at this point the prosecution should rest. The evidence is in and I think it is a slam dunk... err wrong sport, the biscuit is in the basket, guility as charged.... The lotion is on the skin? Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 The lotion is on the skin? Oh, you can do that any time to me sweetie... nice set up, just don't tell my wife. :P Lotion that is... on my skin... Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 Oh, you can do that any time to me sweetie... nice set up, just don't tell my wife. :P Lotion that is... on my skin... And now we have Schony hitting on Chz. He must have heard through the grapevine that she and her bf broke up recently. Quote
spndnchz Posted June 18, 2013 Report Posted June 18, 2013 Oh, you can do that any time to me sweetie... nice set up, just don't tell my wife. :P Lotion that is... on my skin... No wife- no deal. Quote
Stoner Posted June 19, 2013 Author Report Posted June 19, 2013 No wife- no deal. You know he proposed to you in your comments section? Women, they just don't listen. (OK, someone proposed to you. I want to believe it's the BF.) Quote
spndnchz Posted June 19, 2013 Report Posted June 19, 2013 You know he proposed to you in your comments section? Women, they just don't listen. (OK, someone proposed to you. I want to believe it's the BF.) You lookin' up my comments again dirty old man? Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 19, 2013 Report Posted June 19, 2013 No wife- no deal. No worries, I am safe... if you even got close with lotion, she would do unspeakable things to me that I would never recover from... that being said, nice photo...sigh... Quote
bunomatic Posted June 19, 2013 Report Posted June 19, 2013 I find this all very disturbing. Terry Pegula is too involved as far as I'm concerned. Sure its his shiny new toy and his moolah but why can't he just stay out of the day to day hockey decisions ? Its bad enough that we have G.M. for life running the show but to top it off the oil and gas man is ' helping ' our hockey genius make decisions. One name comes to mind, Charles Wang. Lord help us. Quote
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