2013-2014 Roster Projection Thoughts

[LGR4GM]

But will he be elite? :)

What do you mean by this? Elite?

 

Do people believe Lucic is elite? Not saying that is who Foligno will be, just curious if people think Milan Lucic is an elite player.

[That Aud Smell]

I think it's unlikely, but is there anyone out there that the team might sign? (Mirtle tweeted this and rightly observed that the cap roll-back is causing some guys to be out of work longer than they might have otherwise been.)

 

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Results limited to 100 skaters (sorted by points) and 50 goaltenders (sorted by goals-against average). For more detailed player and team stats, visit hockey-reference.com. Name Pos Age Team GP G A P PIM +/- TOI-TOT Boyes, Brad » R 31 NYI 48 10 25 35 16 -6 18.21 Prospal, Vinny » L 38 CLB 48 12 18 30 32 3 16.53 Brunner, Damien » R 27 DET 44 12 14 26 12 -6 15.59 Morrow, Brenden » L 34 PIT 44 12 13 25 37 -3 14.86 Selanne, Teemu » R 43 ANA 46 12 12 24 28 -10 15.69 Raymond, Mason » L 27 VAN 46 10 12 22 16 2 15.82 Antropov, Nik » C 33 WPG 40 6 12 18 16 6 15.96 Mueller, Peter » R 25 FLA 43 8 9 17 18 -11 16.26 Sullivan, Steve » L 39 NJD 42 7 10 17 24 -12 14.55 Grabovski, M. » C 29 TOR 48 9 7 16 24 -10 15.57 Gagne, Simon » L 33 PHI 38 5 11 16 8 -1 14.14 Cleary, Danny » L 34 DET 48 9 6 15 40 -6 16.44 Wellwood, Kyle » C 30 WPG 39 6 9 15 2 0 12.98 Whitney, Ryan » D 30 EDM 34 4 9 13 23 -7 18.48 Gilbert, Tom » D 30 MIN 43 3 10 13 18 -11 19.32 Hainsey, Ron » D 32 WPG 47 0 13 13 10 -8 22.86 Hejduk, Milan » R 37 COL 29 4 7 11 0 -7 13.14 Latendresse, G. » L 26 OTT 27 6 4 10 8 -2 14.80 Kuba, Filip » D 36 FLA 44 1 9 10 24 -18 21.22 Kobasew, Chuck » R 31 COL 37 5 4 9 21 6 11.27 Ponikarovsky, A. » L 33 NJD 42 4 5 9 14 -1 13.16 Petrell, Lennart » L 29 EDM 35 3 6 9 4 -4 11.53 Knuble, Mike » R 41 PHI 28 4 4 8 20 -4 12.92 Lombardi, Matthew » C 31 ANA 28 4 4 8 8 -2 13.96 Begin, Steve » L 35 CGY 36 4 4 8 22 -2 7.99 Redden, Wade » D 36 BOS 29 3 4 7 11 -2 15.07 Steckel, David » C 31 ANA 34 1 6 7 4 0 9.27 Smithson, Jerred » C 34 EDM 45 3 3 6 12 -4 10.66 O'Byrne, Ryan » D 29 TOR 42 2 4 6 60 -4 18.53 Murray, Douglas » D 33 PIT 43 1 5 6 35 -9 17.59 Fistric, Mark » D 27 EDM 25 0 6 6 32 6 15.33 Lydman, Toni » D 35 ANA 35 0 6 6 12 -1 19.39 Zanon, Greg » D 33 COL 44 0 6 6 28 -16 19.33 Foster, Kurtis » D 31 PHI 23 1 4 5 25 0 13.09 Reasoner, Marty » C 36 NYI 31 0 5 5 4 -3 11.23 Dvorak, Radek » R 36 ANA 9 4 0 4 2 2 13.13 White, Ian » D 29 DET 25 2 2 4 4 5 19.58 Larose, Chad » R 31 CAR 35 2 2 4 29 -8 12.85 Daugavins, K. » L 25 BOS 25 1 3 4 9 -8 11.01 Aucoin, Adrian » D 40 CLB 36 0 4 4 16 -8 16.33 Gagnon, Aaron » C 27 WPG 10 3 0 3 2 2 8.15 Martinek, Radek » D 36 NYI 13 3 0 3 4 -2 16.15 Halpern, Jeff » C 37 MTL 46 1 2 3 10 -8 10.18 Kaberle, Tomas » D 35 MTL 10 0 3 3 0 4 13.55 Brent, Tim » C 29 CAR 30 0 3 3 8 -3 9.79 Eminger, Steve » D 29 NYR 35 0 3 3 8 9 13.04 Gillies, Colton » L 24 CLB 27 1 1 2 17 1 8.30 Wallace, Tim » R 29 CAR 28 1 1 2 17 -9 10.03 Barker, Cam » D 27 VAN 14 0 2 2 4 -3 14.20 Poti, Tom » D 36 WAS 16 0 2 2 2 -2 15.22 Mayers, Jamal » R 38 CHI 19 0 2 2 16 2 6.97 Kostopoulos, Tom » R 34 NJD 15 1 0 1 18 0 9.10 Langenbrunner, J. » R 38 STL 4 0 1 1 0 1 9.78 Colaiacovo, Carlo » D 30 DET 6 0 1 1 2 -4 18.91 Clark, Brett » D 36 MIN 8 0 1 1 0 -9 14.07 Nodl, Andreas » R 26 CAR 8 0 1 1 2 -1 8.47 Carson, Brett » D 27 CGY 10 0 1 1 0 -1 10.93 Hamrlik, Roman » D 39 NYR 16 0 1 1 8 -4 11.48 Huskins, Kent » D 34 PHI 19 0 1 1 4 -3 15.66 Alberts, Andrew » D 32 VAN 24 0 1 1 32 -7 15.18 Segal, Brandon » R 30 NYR 1 0 0 0 2 0 5.35 Shelley, Jody » L 37 PHI 1 0 0 0 0 0 7.97 Hordichuk, Darcy » L 33 EDM 4 0 0 0 2 -1 2.03 Aliu, Akim » R 24 CGY 5 0 0 0 14 -2 10.86 Malhotra, Manny » C 33 VAN 9 0 0 0 0 -3 11.13 VandeVelde, Chris » C 26 EDM 11 0 0 0 4 -3 7.05 Pandolfo, Jay » L 38 BOS 18 0 0 0 2 -2 9.07 Eaton, Mark » D 36 PIT 23 0 0 0 4 9 17.98 Gill, Hal » D 38 NAS 32 0 0 0 12 -3 13.38

[dudacek]

I think they may look at Tallinder type on O - Brendan Morrow would make the most sense.

May even have an offer or two on the table that players are considering while waiting for other dominoes to fall.

But I don't they will go hard after anyone, and I doubt they will be unhappy if they come up empty-handed.

[shrader]

I was interested in that Van de Velde guy at the bottom of the list until he choked away the British Open.

[tom webster]

Not sure were else to post this. I have no idea if its a good hire or not but I am encouraged about the number of bodies added to the front office in the last couple of years. As long as they aren't hiring yes men but rather strong minded, confident people, it has to be a good thing.

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabres-nhl/source-sabres-hire-buffalo-native-forton-as-assistant-coach-20130823

[nobody]

I'm guessing they hired Forton to oversee their recruiting efforts. :)

[spndnchz]

Not sure were else to post this. I have no idea if its a good hire or not but I am encouraged about the number of bodies added to the front office in the last couple of years. As long as they aren't hiring yes men but rather strong minded, confident people, it has to be a good thing.

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sabres-nhl/source-sabres-hire-buffalo-native-forton-as-assistant-coach-20130823

 

That's article looks a lot like this:

 

http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/coaches/forton_jerry

 

[nfreeman]

 

 

That's article looks a lot like this:

 

http://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mice/coaches/forton_jerry

 

Wow. Reading the 2nd article made me much more impressed with him than the 1st one.

[deluca67]

What do you mean by this? Elite?

 

Do people believe Lucic is elite? Not saying that is who Foligno will be, just curious if people think Milan Lucic is an elite player.

"Elite" tends to always seems to be linked with offensive production. When it comes to the physical side of the game, Lucic is the premier big man in the game. It may not be the traditional definition of "elite", there isn't another big man I list before him.

[TrueBlueGED]

"Elite" tends to always seems to be linked with offensive production. When it comes to the physical side of the game, Lucic is the premier big man in the game. It may not be the traditional definition of "elite", there isn't another big man I list before him.

 

Chara ;)

 

(Yes, I know you're talking about forwards)

[Eleven]

"Elite" tends to always seems to be linked with offensive production. When it comes to the physical side of the game, Lucic is the premier big man in the game. It may not be the traditional definition of "elite", there isn't another big man I list before him.

 

Above Gaustad?!

[darksabre]

 

 

Above Gaustad?!

 

:lol:

[Eleven]

In all seriousness, I agree w DeLuca that there probably isn't a better power forward inthe game right now.

[spndnchz]

In all seriousness, I agree w DeLuca that there probably isn't a better power forward inthe game right now.

 

Backes is up there for me.

[tom webster]

In all seriousness, I agree w DeLuca that there probably isn't a better power forward inthe game right now.

 

And yet by some accounts, Boston was prepared to trade him if Iginla came their way at the deadline

[nfreeman]

 

 

Backes is up there for me.

 

And Landeskog.

[Weave]

Backes is up there for me.

And Landeskog.

 

And Wayne Simmonds as well. But I think that Deluca was referring to the rather unique combination of intimidation and scoring that Lucic brings. At the same time, as power forwards go Backes, Simmonds, and Landeskog are better overall players.

[waldo]

And Wayne Simmonds as well. But I think that Deluca was referring to the rather unique combination of intimidation and scoring that Lucic brings. At the same time, as power forwards go Backes, Simmonds, and Landeskog are better overall players.

 

and a dozen or so more

[darksabre]

 

 

 

And Wayne Simmonds as well. But I think that Deluca was referring to the rather unique combination of intimidation and scoring that Lucic brings. At the same time, as power forwards go Backes, Simmonds, and Landeskog are better overall players.

 

What we have to hope for is that Girgensons will be that horse for us. I think the auds are good.

[deluca67]

And Wayne Simmonds as well. But I think that Deluca was referring to the rather unique combination of intimidation and scoring that Lucic brings. At the same time, as power forwards go Backes, Simmonds, and Landeskog are better overall players.

and a dozen or so more

I don't believe that to be true. Lucic is a career .590 ppg (.623 ppg in the playoffs) and a career +51. There may be a few big men you can argue against Lucic, no way there are a dozen or so. I like Simmonds, he's nowhere near the level of player Lucic is. Backes is definitely in the conversation. Too soon for Landeskog, a lot of talent there but he's only 20.

[waldo]

I don't believe that to be true. Lucic is a career .590 ppg (.623 ppg in the playoffs) and a career +51. There may be a few big men you can argue against Lucic, no way there are a dozen or so. I like Simmonds, he's nowhere near the level of player Lucic is. Backes is definitely in the conversation. Too soon for Landeskog, a lot of talent there but he's only 20.

 

You have an affinity for big players with an edge . I understand that , i read your posts and there is a first amendment, (for now)..enjoy your affinity. .He is a very nice piece to have .. but I have a different perspective. .There are more than a few faster, smarter, some younger , more skilled big guys with better vision i would take before i even thought about Lucic . I think Boston was willing to trade him because they have already reached critical mass ,edge wise ,and know there are players who would bring more system wise than Lucic.(their gm is one of the best in the buisness) , Would Lucic fit on the Sabres.. absoooooluttteeeely.. He is exactly what they need . He is exactly what a dozen other teams could use .

[deluca67]

You have an affinity for big players with an edge . I understand that , i read your posts and there is a first amendment, (for now)..enjoy your affinity. .He is a very nice piece to have .. but I have a different perspective. .There are more than a few faster, smarter, some younger , more skilled big guys with better vision i would take before i even thought about Lucic . I think Boston was willing to trade him because they have already reached critical mass ,edge wise ,and know there are players who would bring more system wise than Lucic.(their gm is one of the best in the buisness) , Would Lucic fit on the Sabres.. absoooooluttteeeely.. He is exactly what they need . He is exactly what a dozen other teams could use .

"More than a few" is not "a dozen or so." I would like see to the list of the young big men you would take before Lucic.

 

I don't know if the Bruins ever seriously considered trading Lucic, it wouldn't make sense if they did. A 25 year old 25-30 goal scorer with the most intimidating reputation in hockey.

[waldo]

"More than a few" is not "a dozen or so." I would like see to the list of the young big men you would take before Lucic.

 

I don't know if the Bruins ever seriously considered trading Lucic, it wouldn't make sense if they did. A 25 year old 25-30 goal scorer with the most intimidating reputation in hockey.

 

There are fourteen i can think of without trying .. Shall we debate my list .. lol (i am not that bored yet) Franzen is on it as are four names already in this dicussion.. Now you can say "Franzen is not a power forward " and we can debate the definition perhaps.. lol,,, it is slow. How about Vanek for Lucic? You loved that trade . Lucic is only 25. It makes both teams better. Wonder what his numbers would look like with Cody..hmmmm Wonder what his numbers would look like on the Sabres with opposing teams playing the same d scheme they play Vanek with.lol Could you see Vanek playing with the Krejci or Bergeron? Or making that pp better? Maybe our GM should consider more trades with eastern teams . lol if this is a ground up there is no reason to eliminaate any team from the option list.

[nfreeman]

There are fourteen i can think of without trying .. Shall we debate my list .. lol (i am not that bored yet) Franzen is on it as are four names already in this dicussion.. Now you can say "Franzen is not a power forward " and we can debate the definition perhaps.. lol,,, it is slow. How about Vanek for Lucic? You loved that trade . Lucic is only 25. It makes both teams better. Wonder what his numbers would look like with Cody..hmmmm Wonder what his numbers would look like on the Sabres with opposing teams playing the same d scheme they play Vanek with.lol Could you see Vanek playing with the Krejci or Bergeron? Or making that pp better? Maybe our GM should consider more trades with eastern teams . lol if this is a ground up there is no reason to eliminaate any team from the option list.

 

Franzen is 33. At his peak he was probably better than Lucic at his, but I think most GMs would rather have Lucic at this point.

 

Vanek is not comparable.

[waldo]

Franzen is 33. At his peak he was probably better than Lucic at his, but I think most GMs would rather have Lucic at this point.

 

Vanek is not comparable.

 

Point one.. He is still better than Lucic. (have we added age as a variable to our discussion) the issue was better ,, meaning right now. ) (i knew Franzen would get a rise/lol)

 

Point two. Skill, production, vision, sense wise , I know