Taro T Posted February 28, 2013 Report Posted February 28, 2013 Random nitpick just to make sure my memory isn't completely shot. Didn't comcast, who at that point owned VS buy NBC? Yep.
spndnchz Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 “The NHL Players’ Association confirmed to us today that it has consented to a revised plan for realignment, effective for the 2013-14 season,” deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement. “Our next step will be to bring the proposed plan for realignment to the NHL Board of Governors for its consideration. We will update the status of the process as future developments warrant.” http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/capitals-watch/2013/mar/7/nhlpa-approves-nhl-realignment-plan/ The Washington Capitals will play in the Atlantic Division with the Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers, New Jersey Devils, New York Islanders, Carolina Hurricanes and Columbus Blue Jackets. The other Eastern Conference division, believed to be called the Central, includes the Boston Bruins, Buffalo Sabres, Detroit Red Wings, Florida Panthers, Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Tampa Bay Lightning and Toronto Maple Leafs. One Western Conference division (the Midwest) includes the Chicago Blackhawks, Colorado Avalanche, Dallas Stars, Minnestoa Wild, Nashville Predators, St. Louis Blues and Winnipeg Jets. The other (the Pacific) includes the Anaheim Ducks, Los Angeles Kings, Phoenix Coyotes, San Jose Sharks, Vancouver Canucks, Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers. Under the new playoff format, the top three teams from each division make the playoffs, and then the top two remaining point-getters in each conference would qualify as wild cards.
Stoner Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 Central what? I don't get it. Keep the Eastern-Western tags, but name the divisions after people again. I could accept the idea of the Sabres in the Howe Division.
LaFontaineToMogilny Posted March 7, 2013 Report Posted March 7, 2013 I agree, updated peoples names for the conferences. The Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Mogilny conferences, done.
IKnowPhysics Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Here are today's standing under the proposed realignment. Notice that in the East, a contender for the last playoff spot only has to knock off 8th seed NJ, whereas in the West, it depends upon what division you're in. Teams in the Midwest only need to knock off 8th seed St Louis, but Pacific teams need to knock out 6th seeded Phoenix. Minor derp: Colorado is chasing StL.
Brawndo Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun To be clear: NHL and NHLPA have consented to playing under this re-alignment plan for 3 seasons but agreed to begin re-evaluating it after 2 Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun So the re-evaluating process will take place during the 2015-16 season..
Eleven Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 So glad that Fehr put up his dukes on this one last year. What a great champion of workers' rights.
shrader Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Central what? I don't get it. Keep the Eastern-Western tags, but name the divisions after people again. I could accept the idea of the Sabres in the Howe Division. So you're saying that when you hear the word central, you don't immediately think of Boston, Florida, Tampa Bay... and well, just about every other team in that division. It's the perfect name!
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Here are today's standing under the proposed realignment. Notice that in the East, a contender for the last playoff spot only has to knock off 8th seed NJ, whereas in the West, it depends upon what division you're in. Teams in the Midwest only need to knock off 8th seed St Louis, but Pacific teams need to knock out 6th seeded Phoenix. Minor derp: Colorado is chasing StL. Sabres are currently 5PTS out of the Playoffs. If the Realignment would already be in place, it would be 7PTS. EDIT: little error: so its Eastern Conf: (1) MON v NJ (8), (2) PIT v CAR (7), (3) BOS v OTT (6), (4) TOR v DET (5) Western Conf: (1) CHI v PHO(8), (2) ANA v SJ(7), (3) VAN v STL(6), (4) LA v DAL(5)
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Playoff chances with realignment http://www.sportsclubstats.com/2012-2013-realign/NHL/Eastern/Central/Buffalo.html
Trettioåtta Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Sabres are currently 5PTS out of the Playoffs. If the Realignment would already be in place, it would be 7PTS. Eastern Conf: (1) MON v OTT (8), (2) PIT v DET (7), (3) BOS v NJ (6), (4) TOR v CAR (5) Western Conf: (1) CHI v PHO(8), (2) ANA v SJ(7), (3) VAN v STL(6), (4) LA v DAL(5) I think the playoffs are done divisionally. I don't quite get how the extra two get involved. But I don;t think Boston would play Jersey
Eleven Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Playoff chances with realignment http://www.sportsclu...al/Buffalo.html Higher than I would have thought.
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 I think the playoffs are done divisionally. I don't quite get how the extra two get involved. But I don;t think Boston would play Jersey The playoff format as detailed in the league memo Tuesday calls for the top three teams in each division to earn postseason berths. The remaining four spots would go to wild cards, the top two records in each conference.
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 The playoff format as detailed in the league memo Tuesday calls for the top three teams in each division to earn postseason berths. The remaining four spots would go to wild cards, the top two records in each conference. True, but you'd play through your conference first. How else could you have a Conference final? Conference Champion? The first and last Anaheim/Phoenix, Chicago/Ottawa
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 True, but you'd play through your conference first. How else could you have a Conference final? Conference Champion? The first and last Anaheim/Phoenix, Chicago/Ottawa Yeah you would of course...? Eastern Conf: (1) MON v OTT (8), (2) PIT v DET (7), (3) BOS v NJ (6), (4) TOR v CAR (5) Montreal over Ottawa Pittsburgh over Detroit Boston over New Jersey Toronto over Carolina Montreal over Toronto Pittsburgh over Boston Conference Final Montreal vs. Pittsburgh Western Conf: (1) CHI v PHO(8), (2) ANA v SJ(7), (3) VAN v STL(6), (4) LA v DAL(5) Chicago over Phoenix Anaheim over San Jose Vancouver over St.Louis Los ANgeles over Dallas Chicago over Los Angeles Anaheim over Vancouver Conference Final Chicago vs. Anaheim I don't see the problem? or are we talking about something different? :D edit... I could have also put it this way:
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Sabres are currently 5PTS out of the Playoffs. If the Realignment would already be in place, it would be 7PTS. Eastern Conf: (1) MON v OTT (8), (2) PIT v DET (7), (3) BOS v NJ (6), (4) TOR v CAR (5) Western Conf: (1) CHI v PHO(8), (2) ANA v SJ(7), (3) VAN v STL(6), (4) LA v DAL(5) Okay, you've got the conferences left to right not up and down. So from what I understand, all games are conference games. So Montreal- Jersey then Boston-Carolina and so forth. I'm going by current points.
nobody Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 I don't know why they didn't do top two in a division and the next best 4. I think it would be near impossible you would ever see 6 teams from 1 division being better than the 3rd best in the other - but if they are they are.
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 Okay, you've got the conferences left to right not up and down. So from what I understand, all games are conference games. So Montreal- Jersey then Boston-Carolina and so forth. I'm going by current points. oh yes I changed that but I have no idea if wild cards will be put at the end of the conference, because they are not as much worth as finishing in the top3 and btw I still think its not boston vs. carolina cause division winners are set as 1. and 2nd seed as far as I remember
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 oh yes I changed that but I have no idea if wild cards will be put at the end of the conference, because they are not as much worth as finishing in the top3 and btw I still think its not boston vs. carolina cause division winners are set as 1. and 2nd seed as far as I remember I've seen some say the first two rounds are within the division but how the hell do you do that?
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 I've seen some say the first two rounds are within the division but how the hell do you do that? I've heard that as well but I think it doesnt make sense. I updated the big picture above with blue and red to indicate conferences. I think the only way it works is this way... Within the division isn't really possible if one division has 5 teams and the other has 3 in the playoffs.
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 This is better: The division winner with the most regular-season points would face the lowest-seeded wild card in the first round. Lowest seed wildcard regardless of division. Makes more sense now. Your second guess would be correct Mont-Ottawa Pitt-Detroit Boston-Jersey Tor-Carolina
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 This is better: The division winner with the most regular-season points would face the lowest-seeded wild card in the first round. Lowest seed wildcard regardless of division. Makes more sense now. Your second guess would be correct Mont-Ottawa Pitt-Detroit Boston-Jersey Tor-Carolina yeah that would work for me... Although I dunno if they do it this way and if wild cards are automatically 7th and 8th in the conference no matter how good they are.
spndnchz Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 yeah that would work for me... Although I dunno if they do it this way and if wild cards are automatically 7th and 8th in the conference no matter how good they are. Yes. You could have a Chicago - Anaheim series if one was first and one was last wildcard team.
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 We will see how it turns out, but the Sabres Division is deadly. Boston and Detroit are good we know that. Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto made huge steps forward. It's probably the toughest division over the next few years.
Peppy22 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Posted March 8, 2013 So here is what I was told today regarding the playoffs: 2 vs 3 in the division are always locked in to face each other, no matter what. 3 TOR @ 2 BOS - CEN 3 NJ @ 2 CAR - ATL 3 DAL @ 2 STL - MW 3 LA @ 2 VAN - PAC 1 vs 4 (or Wilcard) in the division is also locked in, unless there is no 4 from that division eligible (the 5th team in one division has more points than the 4th team in the other division). In that case, the 5th plays the higher 1 seed. And the 4th place team plays the lower 1 seed. 5 OTT @ 1 MTL - CEN 4 DET @ 1 PIT - ATL 5 PHX @ 1 CHI - MW 4 SJ @ 1 ANA - PAC In round 2, the division match-ups continue. Winners of the 2 division match-ups face each other. So winners of 5 OTT @ 1 MTL and 3 TOR @ 2 BOS play for the right to go to the Conference final. Same for the winners of 4 DET @ 1 PIT and 3 NJ @ 2 CAR. Re-seeding for the second round is a thing of the past. Honestly... I dont like that at all. Means we will not play the flyers or pens or wings before the conference final.
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