LastPommerFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 The networks get approximately the same number of commercials regardless of the pace of play. Every half inning and pitching change. Even if the action between those sped up, the same amount of ad time would be sold. Ironic that this comes up now when the league announced this morning that they're testing new pace-of-play rules at the Arizona fall league. Some of them: -a batter must have at least one foot in the batters box throughout the entire at-bat. Exceptions include wild pitches, time, foul tips and foul balls. In those instances they can leave the box but now the dirt. -No-pitch intentional walks. A manager can signal to home plate that they're walking the guy. -2 minutes 5 seconds in between innings. If a batter isn't in the box within 1:45 of the last inning a strike will be called. If the batter is and the pitcher doesn't throw a pitch by 2:05 a ball will be called. -2:30 for a pitching change. -Only three timeout conferences per game. Man, they responded quickly to my suggestions. Good on them. :) Quote
shrader Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 The networks get approximately the same number of commercials regardless of the pace of play. Every half inning and pitching change. Even if the action between those sped up, the same amount of ad time would be sold. But the more times the batter steps out of the box, the longer we have to stare at that green screen ad that Fox has behind home plate. They also get to plug that new TV show or the official beer of MLB for a few more seconds. Quote
inkman Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Ironic that this comes up now when the league announced this morning that they're testing new pace-of-play rules at the Arizona fall league. Some of them: -a batter must have at least one foot in the batters box throughout the entire at-bat. Exceptions include wild pitches, time, foul tips and foul balls. In those instances they can leave the box but now the dirt. -No-pitch intentional walks. A manager can signal to home plate that they're walking the guy. -2 minutes 5 seconds in between innings. If a batter isn't in the box within 1:45 of the last inning a strike will be called. If the batter is and the pitcher doesn't throw a pitch by 2:05 a ball will be called. -2:30 for a pitching change. -Only three timeout conferences per game. I'd eliminate the check swing. I mean it won't happen but I think this arbitrary line in space that qualifies as a swing is stupid. You start swinging, you swung. The check swing is the tuck rule of baseball. Quote
Eleven Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Posted October 1, 2014 No-pitch intentional walks remove the possibilities of wild pitches or hits off of the softly thrown ball. These have happened and should remain part of the game. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 No-pitch intentional walks remove the possibilities of wild pitches or hits off of the softly thrown ball. These have happened and should remain part of the game. I agree. Quote
MattPie Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 No-pitch intentional walks remove the possibilities of wild pitches or hits off of the softly thrown ball. These have happened and should remain part of the game. I agree. I was wondering if anyone had ever taken a swing at those pitches, thanks for answering before I had a chance to google it. :) In any case, this would seem to be similar to the argument that the extra-point in football should be awarded automatically unless the team wants to try for 2. I don't know where I come down on it, but I can see the argument of not preserving something boring just for the <1% of the time something interesting happens. Last season, 4 XP were blocked and 1 was missed. How many hits off pitch outs, wild pitches, and i-walks have there been over the last few years? Quote
shrader Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 No-pitch intentional walks remove the possibilities of wild pitches or hits off of the softly thrown ball. These have happened and should remain part of the game. It's also an additional 4 pitches added to that pitch count. I doubt they factor in too much to the pitcher's fatigue, but it's still something. Quote
Eleven Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Posted October 1, 2014 I was wondering if anyone had ever taken a swing at those pitches, thanks for answering before I had a chance to google it. :) In any case, this would seem to be similar to the argument that the extra-point in football should be awarded automatically unless the team wants to try for 2. I don't know where I come down on it, but I can see the argument of not preserving something boring just for the <1% of the time something interesting happens. Last season, 4 XP were blocked and 1 was missed. How many hits off pitch outs, wild pitches, and i-walks have there been over the last few years? Right? And that's why we watch! Quote
Hoss Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Meh. The intentional walk thing is the best part of that list. It's maybe one in every 1,000 pitches that something even close to interesting happens. I think it should be a one pitch deal. Catcher stands up and puts his glove out. The pitch is thrown. The end. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Meh. The intentional walk thing is the best part of that list. It's maybe one in every 1,000 pitches that something even close to interesting happens. I think it should be a one pitch deal. Catcher stands up and puts his glove out. The pitch is thrown. The end. Auto walk does not give the hole batter a chance to warm up. I also like that the 4 pitchouts makes the team think about what they're deciding to do. Quote
MattPie Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 Auto walk does not give the hole batter a chance to warm up. I also like that the 4 pitchouts makes the team think about what they're deciding to do. So does a first-pitch line drive straight to the SS. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Posted October 1, 2014 So does a first-pitch line drive straight to the SS. But that can't as easily be abused by the opposing manager. Quote
Hoss Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 But that can't as easily be abused by the opposing manager. Teams arent just going to start intentionally walking every other guy. It's really not going to change much, I don't think. Quote
ubkev Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 Kelly Leak disagrees with all this intentional walk talk! Quote
shrader Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 I know it was just the wildcard play in game, but it blows my mind to see both Pittsburgh and Kansas City in the playoffs, let alone in the same year. Next it'll be teams like the Seahawks winning the super bowl. Quote
shrader Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 The Pirates were in last year too. Words are not my friend. I wanted to emphasize them as both being in at the same time. They were the most trusted bottom feeders of the past 20 years (and yes, even longer for KC). I don't know what to believe anymore. Maybe next year we'll see the Bills and Raiders both make the playoffs. :bag: Quote
Hoss Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 Words are not my friend. I wanted to emphasize them as both being in at the same time. They were the most trusted bottom feeders of the past 20 years (and yes, even longer for KC). I don't know what to believe anymore. Maybe next year we'll see the Bills and Raiders both make the playoffs. :bag: I kind of assumed that's what you were going for. This new playoff format basically makes it feel like the WC loser wasn't in. Quote
LastPommerFan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 I kind of assumed that's what you were going for. This new playoff format basically makes it feel like the WC loser wasn't in. Yeah. To me it just feels like a forced tiebreaker game. I like it and I think it makes good entertainment, but it's not the playoffs. Quote
shrader Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 Yeah. To me it just feels like a forced tiebreaker game. I like it and I think it makes good entertainment, but it's not the playoffs. They always treated any other play in game as a playoff game, but it's definitely not the same thing as one of the 5 or 7 game series. Then again, it always drives me crazy when they say such and such present day pitcher has won more playoff games than anyone in the history of the game. Of course he has. Those pre-90s pitchers didn't have to go through the extra 5 game series. Quote
Hoss Posted October 2, 2014 Report Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Clayton Kershaw is on his way to becoming one of the best, if not THE best, pitcher of all time. Insane on the mound. Edited October 2, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote
WildCard Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Clayton Kershaw is on his way to becoming one of the best, if not THE best, pitcher of all time. Insane on the mound. Easy there. Anyone else watching this KC game right now? Some of the plays the Kc outfield has made to keep it tied have been incredible. And the small ball they play, it's just fun to watch good baseball. Quote
Hoss Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Easy there. Definitely well on his way to being one of the best. Quote
WildCard Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Definitely well on his way to being one of the best. Top 20 probably, top 10 maybe, but not a top 5, and certainly not number 1. Quote
Hoss Posted October 3, 2014 Report Posted October 3, 2014 Top 20 probably, top 10 maybe, but not a top 5, and certainly not number 1. He's 26. As dominant as any pitcher in recent memory. Quote
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