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[WildCard]

Dude literally strikes out in more than 1/3 of his at bats. I'll be interested to see what he does from here, but I have doubts as to the sustainability of those numbers requiring contact.

True, but most strikeout kings don't have that OBP

[Randall Flagg]

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat? 

[WildCard]

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat? 

Judge contact rate => 61%

 

Considering there are a ton of player's in the 80s and 70s all with similar AB appearances (Harper has a 77%), that's not exactly great for Judge

 

http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/player_ex_stats.htm

[Sabel79]

True, but most strikeout kings don't have that OBP

  

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat?

 

These are both fair enough. But from what I've seen Judge likes to keep the bat on his shoulder a bit too much, and seems to have a bad eye / understanding of the strike zone. I mean, Jose Altuve is hitting .347 with not even half the strikeouts or walks. Granted, situations are different, but the ability to put the bat on the ball reliably seems to something that eludes Judge. Now, he could keep doing this and keep putting these numbers up, but I suspect he'll need to change his approach and improve his eye or else he'll get eaten up going forward.

 

Full disclosure: I hate the Yankees and never want them to have anything good. Some of this might be wishful thinking. It is a possibility though.

[WildCard]

  

These are both fair enough. But from what I've seen Judge likes to keep the bat on his shoulder a bit too much, and seems to have a bad eye / understanding of the strike zone. I mean, Jose Altuve is hitting .347 with not even half the strikeouts or walks. Granted, situations are different, but the ability to put the bat on the ball reliably seems to something that eludes Judge. Now, he could keep doing this and keep putting these numbers up, but I suspect he'll need to change his approach and improve his eye or else he'll get eaten up going forward.

 

Full disclosure: I hate the Yankees and never want them to have anything good. Some of this might be wishful thinking. It is a possibility though.

I think he has a very good eye of the strike zone. I think he has a very bad ability to put bat on ball in the strike zone 

[Sabel79]

I think he has a very good eye of the strike zone. I think he has a very bad ability to put bat on ball in the strike zone

 

His swinging strike percentage is 13.4%. For a guy with that many strikeouts, he doesn't swing the bat enough.

[shrader]

Do they routinely breakdown these strikeout rates for when there are runners on base?  That's the most obvious scenario where a strikeout is far less productive than putting the ball in play and getting out.

[WildCard]

His swinging strike percentage is 13.4%. For a guy with that many strikeouts, he doesn't swing the bat enough.

Where is that stat?

[Sabel79]

Where is that stat?

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=15640&position=OF

 

Under plate discipline. 

[WildCard]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=15640&position=OF

 

Under plate discipline. 

So Judge's swinging strike% is 13.9%

 

Harper's is 11.9%, with a similar OBP as Judge (.412 to .415)

 

This tells me that Judge just swings and misses a lot. I watch the Yankees a ton, he just swings and misses

[Sabel79]

So Judge's swinging strike% is 13.9%

 

Harper's is 11.9%, with a similar OBP as Judge (.412 to .415)

 

This tells me that Judge just swings and misses a lot. I watch the Yankees a ton, he just swings and misses

It could very well be the small sample size I've actually seen plus me interpreting the numbers backwards. 

[JujuFish]

2017 there are an average of 8.25 SO / game. In 1939, Williams' rookie season, there was an average of 3.44

 

I'd like to see ol' Teddy hit 100mph followed by a 88mph slider. 

 

Well then, how about we compare them based on their strikeout ranks in their own season?  Ted Williams, 8th.  Al Rosen, 19th.  Aaron Judge, 1st. :P

[ubkev]

Well then, how about we compare them based on their strikeout ranks in their own season? Ted Williams, 8th. Al Rosen, 19th. Aaron Judge, 1st. :P

Next let's compare them based on the amount of black and Hispanic players they faced. :p

Edited September 21, 2017 by ubkev

[WildCard]

Next let's compare them based on the amount of black and Hispanic players they faced. :p

:lol:

[LGR4GM]

I like Steph Curry, more today than yesterday.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

:w00t:

 

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/video#id=1053117507627

[Taro T]

I like Steph Curry, more today than yesterday.

It's his perogative, just like it was Tim Thomas' a few years back.

 

Feel bad for any of his teammates that weren't on the last championship team & actually wanted to go to the White House. They may never have the chance present itself again and now it isn't an option this year.

[Randall Flagg]

It's his perogative, just like it was Tim Thomas' a few years back.

 

Feel bad for any of his teammates that weren't on the last championship team & actually wanted to go to the White House. They may never have the chance present itself again and now it isn't an option this year.

it's the nba, it's already a foregone conclusion that they'll have the chance the next three years in a row :P

[Eleven]

It's his perogative, just like it was Tim Thomas' a few years back.

 

Feel bad for any of his teammates that weren't on the last championship team & actually wanted to go to the White House. They may never have the chance present itself again and now it isn't an option this year.

 

The fragile disinvited the WHOLE TEAM?  

[Taro T]

The fragile ###### disinvited the WHOLE TEAM?

 

That was my understanding.

[SwampD]

The fragile ###### disinvited the WHOLE TEAM?  

Awesome. My new name for him.

 

Fragile .

[inkman]

Awesome. My new name for him.

 

Fragile ######.

Someone here dubbed him pumpkin head and I've been running with it. Dotard is pretty good though.

[JujuFish]

That was my understanding.

 

"Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team.Stephen Curry is hesitating,therefore invitation is withdrawn!"

 

I can see your reading of that, but I would be inclined to read that as Stephen Curry is uninvited.  Looks like a "You can't quit, you're fired!" sort of tactic. Bizarre.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

The Warriors have put out a press release. 

 

I have not read it, but I hope they are telling that pumpkin head to shove it.

[Taro T]

"Going to the White House is considered a great honor for a championship team.Stephen Curry is hesitating,therefore invitation is withdrawn!"

 

I can see your reading of that, but I would be inclined to read that as Stephen Curry is uninvited.  Looks like a "You can't quit, you're fired!" sort of tactic. Bizarre.

Apparently the Warriors also understood the tweet as a rescission of an invite to the White House for the full team. So, whichever was intended by the original tweet, the outcome is GS will not go to the WH.