A whole mess of stuff

[Bullwinkle III]

Fixed that for you.

 

With the exception of guys like James Neal. I think it depends upon the team you're traded to.

[TrueBlueGED]

With the exception of guys like James Neal. I think it depends upon the team you're traded to.

 

Neal had like 2 goals in 25 games after being traded. It wasn't until he had a full offseason with the team, and played with a healthy Malkin, that he blew up.

[gohansrage]

As for Bobby Ryan... younger than Nash, similar production, manageable contract. Might not be as tough, but in my opinion, Ryan is the better player to have on your roster in terms of value and production. He will command more than the Nash trade, and although we probably do have the pieces to put a fair (fair not necessarily meaning one they would accept) deal together, I don't know if in the end it will be worth it.

 

Sure we could trade any Ennis, Foligno, McNabb, Pysyk, etc, but the fan boy inside of me would rather see most of these guys flourish into home grown, bona-fide NHLers right here in Buffalo. I know you have to give something to get something, but I'd rather not trade away (for example) McNabb and Pysyk and have them become a top pair shut down D in Anaheim. Obviously that's a risk you have to take in a trade, but I like McNabb.

 

Even Stafford... I mean, don't get me wrong, I would trade Stafford in a deal for Bobby Ryan in a second -- but the way he and Ennis worked together last season was impeccable. We have never seen either of them play like that, short of a few flashes during Staff's hat-trick filled season. And not to discredit Foligno, either-- he was an integral part of the line-- but Stafford & Ennis specifically showed some awesome chemistry with their short passing, give & goes, tic-tac-toes, etc. I wish I could find a video of some of the cycling these guys did down low last season. Maybe a full season with Ennis means Stafford could produce just as well as Bobby Ryan, who has spent the bulk of his career playing with superstars like Getzlaf, Perry, & Selanne.

 

In short, I would love to have Bobby Ryan, and I hope we do acquire him somehow, but I'm afraid of giving up too much for him. I could certainly part with Sekera, Stafford, probably even Pysyk since we haven't gotten to know him too well. I would be sad to see Gerbe go (just because I like him, not because I think he's better than Bobby Ryan), and anything involving Ennis, Foligno or McNabb or a definite no.

 

Here is my proposal, and yes, you may call me crazy:

 

To Buffalo:

Bobby Ryan

2013 Second Round Pick

 

To Anaheim:

Joel Armia

Jhonas Enroth

Adam Pardy

Andrej Sekera

2013 Third Round Pick

 

 

 

With Selanne and Koivu being staples of Finnish hockey, I would be shocked if Anaheim scouts didn't have a pretty good book on Joel Armia by now. Personally, I have no idea how good or bad he is, but judging by what I've read on this forum or around the internet, there are some pretty high hopes for the kid. With Hodgson, Ennis likely part of the long-term plan, and Grigorenko & Girgensons expected to eventually battle for a roster spot, Armia strikes me as a player we could part with that would work out well for both parties. It could certainly be a better situation for him over there, since there is less depth at center.

 

Sekera is the other key piece in the deal. After several seasons filled with flashes of potential, Sekera seems to be rounding his game out quite nicely. He was solid last season and is on a very affordable contract. Not much more to say about him.

 

Jhonas Enroth is the minor piece in the deal. He is a young goaltender who presumably has some value given how well he played in his short stints in Buffalo. I don't see Miller going any where anytime soon, so it's probably time to move Enroth and give him a chance elsewhere. Not saying that he'll out-compete Hiller for the starting job, but at least it's a change of scenery.

 

Adam Pardy is the thrown-in piece that doesn't really mean anything.

 

Maybe we would have to take back an extra body or two in salary, I didn't really do the math so I'm not sure.

 

First of all...your username/blog name/twitter handle are amazing. Well done.

 

Second...if Darcy made that trade I would turn my savings account into pennies, melt them down, and make him a copper statue in my front yard.

[Robviously]

With the exception of guys like James Neal. I think it depends upon the team you're traded to.

It also helps if you're good at hockey. Pat LaFontaine had 93 points in 57 games his first year in Buffalo. Mogilny had 55 goals and 107 points in his first year in Vancouver.

[nfreeman]

Neither. Sabres may feel they need a fresh start with Enroth. Miller may feel the need for a 2nd chapter closer to the wife. No inside info, etc. Just a hunch.

 

PTR

 

There is zero chance of this happening.

 

Here is my proposal, and yes, you may call me crazy:

 

To Buffalo:

Bobby Ryan

2013 Second Round Pick

 

To Anaheim:

Joel Armia

Jhonas Enroth

Adam Pardy

Andrej Sekera

2013 Third Round Pick

 

You can do better than this. The #4 defenseman on a non-playoff team, a backup goalie, a prospect with zero North American games under his belt and some spare parts for Ryan? Right after you said (incorrectly) that Ryan is better than Nash and (correctly) will command more than Nash in trade?

 

To those whining like little children about the source or whatever, calm down. Nobody ever said this was a reliable source. It's generating good conversation here about a guy that has clearly been on the radar no matter what a chump guy on twitter says. He may be bluffing, he may not be. We don't know either way. It's generating good discussion, the original source matters not at this point.

Exactly. I just don't understand what these kids are getting so mad about. It's good discussion, who cares. We could just have another conversation about Shane Doan or what somebody is having for lunch today.

 

You don't get to decide this.

 

When you join someone else's conversation, it's best to respect their methods and standards of communication. Otherwise you just sound immature and self-absorbed, and then you get ignored.

 

source is everything. It allows the rest of us to know if it is credible, or someone just blowing smoke out their ass. Is it generating good conversation? meh, just re hashing more of the same rumors. This has been one of the slowest off seasons I have EVER seen, so we are all a little desperate to discuss just about anything.

I agree, if a source is credible then it makes it interesting to talk about as it could happen. There is a reason no-one posts Eklund rumours. If we are just talking about what it could take to get any player in the league it seems a bit boring and pointless.

 

Also, it is I couldn't care less - when will Americans learn if you could care less, you still care a bit :P

 

How old are you? Do you refer to people as kids because you are very old? Or because you think they are acting as children? Either way it comes across as patronising and pathetic. If the rumours aren't true then it isn't good discussion as we have spoken about Ryan for about 3 months now. Moreover, if we are just generating good discussion why not talk about other random players? What would it take to get Quick? or Crosby? or Giroux?

 

Exactly, although I'm not inclined to take linguistic lessons (cunning or otherwise) from across the pond.

 

Don't count on it. Players have a habit of under performing after coming here. Witness Leino as the most recent.

 

Nonsense.

 

i would discourage you from calling people "whining little children" when they grouse that you've started a new thread regarding a very, very newsworthy item without proffering a source with some credibility, track record and such.

 

i've seen a handful of your posts -- you're obviously no dummy and you follow the team's fortunes closely. it would be good to have your content become part of the community, but if you keep going ad hominem without any good reason, that won't happen. which would be a shame.

 

this. the subject of bobby ryan has been discussed to death here. if you're going to start a mid-summer thread that suggests that the sabres are once again in on him big time, then (1) link a source with a whiff of credibility (of which there are many) or (2) take your lumps when people call you out for linking to an unknown rumor-monger on twitter.

 

Well said, and more politely than I can muster.

 

IMHO, he's not quite obnoxious enough to get banned, but he's about 75% of the way there. Certainly the leading candidate for the anti-Calder.

[dEnnis the Menace]

I agree, if a source is credible then it makes it interesting to talk about as it could happen. There is a reason no-one posts Eklund rumours. If we are just talking about what it could take to get any player in the league it seems a bit boring and pointless.

 

Also, it is I couldn't care less - when will Americans learn if you could care less, you still care a bit :P

 

 

 

How old are you? Do you refer to people as kids because you are very old? Or because you think they are acting as children? Either way it comes across as patronising and pathetic. If the rumours aren't true then it isn't good discussion as we have spoken about Ryan for about 3 months now. Moreover, if we are just generating good discussion why not talk about other random players? What would it take to get Quick? or Crosby? or Giroux?

 

I agree with you on Enroth though - he reminds me of Biron

 

D a m n you Brits and your superior knowledge of the language :P

 

And +1 to the bolded part.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

I agree, if a source is credible then it makes it interesting to talk about as it could happen. How old are you? Do you refer to people as kids because you are very old? Or because you think they are acting as children? Either way it comes across as patronising and pathetic. If the rumours aren't true then it isn't good discussion as we have spoken about Ryan for about 3 months now. Moreover, if we are just generating good discussion why not talk about other random players? What would it take to get Quick? or Crosby? or Giroux?

 

I agree with you on Enroth though - he reminds me of Biron

 

Here's the deal....just look at the profiles. Our fine teenage friend here is buds with Jack who does his own blog. He posts on Jack's site. Mike Straw has his own "reporting" site as well which is pretty much a regurgitated blog, but he can write a bit. I haven't read what our new poster friend here has on Jack's site, because it seems to me this is just sort of an A-ball minor league circlejerk, trying to drive up hits and recognition. It's working since our buddy "Straw" has 20% more twitter followers since last night.

 

I'm all for young kids trying to get into the sports "journalism" game. Follow your dreams.....but don't come around and try to start crap in order to drive hits somewhere. Jack at least is a good poster here and has nice stuff to say and opinions worth reading. Maybe you do as well, but so far it just seems you are looking for 15 minutes of something.

 

If you want to be a journalist.....you investigate....go for the facts.....and present them out in ways the average person may not look at things. Dropping names or being part of Twitter/Bleacher Report/blogs....does not help in trying to get there. You are much better off saying what you have to say and if it floats....it floats. Especially when attempting to clog this site with junk.

 

It's bad enough when we have the Sabres shills trying to deflect on this message board. We don't need spam.

 

Don't take it too personal. Just a word of advice from one of the children. You are 19.....lot of life left Lord willing. You can look for "hits and page views".....or you can look for the truth, use your head, and deliver that message in a valuable way to educate people that may not have the time, passion, or ability you have.

 

Good Luck DStebb.

[nfreeman]

Here's the deal....just look at the profiles. Our fine teenage friend here is buds with Jack who does his own blog. He posts on Jack's site. Mike Straw has his own "reporting" site as well which is pretty much a regurgitated blog, but he can write a bit. I haven't read what our new poster friend here has on Jack's site, because it seems to me this is just sort of an A-ball minor league circlejerk, trying to drive up hits and recognition. It's working since our buddy "Straw" has 20% more twitter followers since last night.

 

I'm all for young kids trying to get into the sports "journalism" game. Follow your dreams.....but don't come around and try to start crap in order to drive hits somewhere. Jack at least is a good poster here and has nice stuff to say and opinions worth reading. Maybe you do as well, but so far it just seems you are looking for 15 minutes of something.

 

If you want to be a journalist.....you investigate....go for the facts.....and present them out in ways the average person may not look at things. Dropping names or being part of Twitter/Bleacher Report/blogs....does not help in trying to get there. You are much better off saying what you have to say and if it floats....it floats. Especially when attempting to clog this site with junk.

 

It's bad enough when we have the Sabres shills trying to deflect on this message board. We don't need spam.

 

Don't take it too personal. Just a word of advice from one of the children. You are 19.....lot of life left Lord willing. You can look for "hits and page views".....or you can look for the truth, use your head, and deliver that message in a valuable way to educate people that may not have the time, passion, or ability you have.

 

Good Luck DStebb.

 

Very nice.

[thesportsbuff]

You can do better than this. The #4 defenseman on a non-playoff team, a backup goalie, a prospect with zero North American games under his belt and some spare parts for Ryan? Right after you said (incorrectly) that Ryan is better than Nash and (correctly) will command more than Nash in trade?

 

I didn't say Ryan was better than Nash, I said he's a better value at 5.x million than Nash at ~8 million. :thumbsup: They both average around 30-35 goals and around 60 points a season. Nash is more physical, but is his physical game alone worth the extra almost $3 million?

 

I also said that what I felt was a fair deal didn't necessarily mean it was one they would accept.

 

On Armia: Zero North American games, you're right, but that's what scouting is for. Did Teemu Selanne or Saku Koivu play any North American games before breaking into the NHL? That would be a no. And we all know what Selanne did that year, huh?

 

I don't know what Teemu's plans are post-NHL, but quote often stars of his caliber stick around w/ their organization in some capacity. If Selanne and Koivu play another season, take up coaching, administrative position, or just stay involved with the organization in general, I could see them having a profound effect on a young Fin looking to make his way in the NHL. He probably looked up to them as a kid.

 

On Sekera: Calling someone a "3rd" or "4th" defenseman holds no weight to me. What is a #4 d-man on the Sabres could be a #2 d-man elsewhere, and vice versa. Heck, Lindy could play a "#6" defenseman on a pairing with Myers for a game -- does that make him our "#2" defenseman? There is a place for a puck moving defenseman who is solid in his own end on just about any team, especially at Sekera's salary. He has pretty good wheels for a d-man too.

 

On Enroth: I look at Enroth as a goaltender prospect, not yet a backup. He is a back-up because the Sabres have had one of the best in the game starting at the position for Enroth's entire career. He never had a chance, really, to claim a starting job.

 

That said, you're right that the proposed deal isn't enough. I would throw in Stafford instead of Pardy, although I would be one of the few reluctant to see him go without trying him alongside Ennis for a full season. However, the main point of my post, really, was to gauge your interest in including Armia as part of the deal. Yes? No? Maybe?

[Stoner]

Enroth being the starter going into the season scares me 10 times more then ennis and hodgson being the top 2 centers

 

What's to fear? That Enroth might suck? Miller might suck. Lindy's replacement might suck, too. Sometimes you gotta find out what's out there.

 

I know I'm sticking my neck out. I just have a hunch that maybe the house cleaning could include not having Miller around to save everyone's bacon when they start coasting.

 

PTR

 

Now that's funny. I think you meant "not having Miller around to blame everyone else when they all start coasting."

[dudacek]

 

 

I didn't say Ryan was better than Nash, I said he's a better value at 5.x million than Nash at ~8 million. :thumbsup: They both average around 30-35 goals and around 60 points a season. Nash is more physical, but is his physical game alone worth the extra almost $3 million?

 

I also said that what I felt was a fair deal didn't necessarily mean it was one they would accept.

 

On Armia: Zero North American games, you're right, but that's what scouting is for. Did Teemu Selanne or Saku Koivu play any North American games before breaking into the NHL? That would be a no. And we all know what Selanne did that year, huh?

 

I don't know what Teemu's plans are post-NHL, but quote often stars of his caliber stick around w/ their organization in some capacity. If Selanne and Koivu play another season, take up coaching, administrative position, or just stay involved with the organization in general, I could see them having a profound effect on a young Fin looking to make his way in the NHL. He probably looked up to them as a kid.

 

On Sekera: Calling someone a "3rd" or "4th" defenseman holds no weight to me. What is a #4 d-man on the Sabres could be a #2 d-man elsewhere, and vice versa. Heck, Lindy could play a "#6" defenseman on a pairing with Myers for a game -- does that make him our "#2" defenseman? There is a place for a puck moving defenseman who is solid in his own end on just about any team, especially at Sekera's salary. He has pretty good wheels for a d-man too.

 

On Enroth: I look at Enroth as a goaltender prospect, not yet a backup. He is a back-up because the Sabres have had one of the best in the game starting at the position for Enroth's entire career. He never had a chance, really, to claim a starting job.

 

That said, you're right that the proposed deal isn't enough. I would throw in Stafford instead of Pardy, although I would be one of the few reluctant to see him go without trying him alongside Ennis for a full season. However, the main point of my post, really, was to gauge your interest in including Armia as part of the deal. Yes? No? Maybe?

 

What about Adam and a first instead of Enroth, Pardy and a third?

[qwksndmonster]

He's one of our top prospects and doesn't play center. I'd be fine with trading Armia.

[thesportsbuff]

Here's the deal....just look at the profiles. Our fine teenage friend here is buds with Jack who does his own blog. He posts on Jack's site. Mike Straw has his own "reporting" site as well which is pretty much a regurgitated blog, but he can write a bit. I haven't read what our new poster friend here has on Jack's site, because it seems to me this is just sort of an A-ball minor league circlejerk, trying to drive up hits and recognition. It's working since our buddy "Straw" has 20% more twitter followers since last night.

 

I'm all for young kids trying to get into the sports "journalism" game. Follow your dreams.....but don't come around and try to start crap in order to drive hits somewhere. Jack at least is a good poster here and has nice stuff to say and opinions worth reading. Maybe you do as well, but so far it just seems you are looking for 15 minutes of something.

 

If you want to be a journalist.....you investigate....go for the facts.....and present them out in ways the average person may not look at things. Dropping names or being part of Twitter/Bleacher Report/blogs....does not help in trying to get there. You are much better off saying what you have to say and if it floats....it floats. Especially when attempting to clog this site with junk.

 

It's bad enough when we have the Sabres shills trying to deflect on this message board. We don't need spam.

 

Don't take it too personal. Just a word of advice from one of the children. You are 19.....lot of life left Lord willing. You can look for "hits and page views".....or you can look for the truth, use your head, and deliver that message in a valuable way to educate people that may not have the time, passion, or ability you have.

 

Good Luck DStebb.

 

Take it easy on him, he's new here. :P

 

Just as a side note, I can assure you this thread had nothing to do with "trying to drive up hits & recognition" for either my blog or whoever Mike Straw is. I think DStebb is just excited about the possibility (remote or otherwise) of a Bobby Ryan trade. He likes to talk hockey, so do we. He just has to learn the law of the land here a little bit.

 

What about Adam and a first instead of Enroth, Pardy and a third?

 

I would do it, I don't know how much value Adam has. I have never thought too highly of him.

 

He's one of our top prospects and doesn't play center. I'd be fine with trading Armia.

 

Well, color me embarrassed, this whole time I thought Armia was a center. Too much NHL 12 "Be a GM" mode I guess! :blush:

[LastPommerFan]

Here's the deal....just look at the profiles. Our fine teenage friend here is buds with Jack who does his own blog. He posts on Jack's site. Mike Straw has his own "reporting" site as well which is pretty much a regurgitated blog, but he can write a bit. I haven't read what our new poster friend here has on Jack's site, because it seems to me this is just sort of an A-ball minor league circlejerk, trying to drive up hits and recognition. It's working since our buddy "Straw" has 20% more twitter followers since last night.

 

I'm all for young kids trying to get into the sports "journalism" game. Follow your dreams.....but don't come around and try to start crap in order to drive hits somewhere. Jack at least is a good poster here and has nice stuff to say and opinions worth reading. Maybe you do as well, but so far it just seems you are looking for 15 minutes of something.

 

If you want to be a journalist.....you investigate....go for the facts.....and present them out in ways the average person may not look at things. Dropping names or being part of Twitter/Bleacher Report/blogs....does not help in trying to get there. You are much better off saying what you have to say and if it floats....it floats. Especially when attempting to clog this site with junk.

 

It's bad enough when we have the Sabres shills trying to deflect on this message board. We don't need spam.

 

Don't take it too personal. Just a word of advice from one of the children. You are 19.....lot of life left Lord willing. You can look for "hits and page views".....or you can look for the truth, use your head, and deliver that message in a valuable way to educate people that may not have the time, passion, or ability you have.

 

Good Luck DStebb.

 

Time for indictments. Which active posters are Sabres Shills. You may begin all inquiries with "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States?"

[nfreeman]

I didn't say Ryan was better than Nash, I said he's a better value at 5.x million than Nash at ~8 million. :thumbsup: They both average around 30-35 goals and around 60 points a season. Nash is more physical, but is his physical game alone worth the extra almost $3 million?

 

I also said that what I felt was a fair deal didn't necessarily mean it was one they would accept.

 

On Armia: Zero North American games, you're right, but that's what scouting is for. Did Teemu Selanne or Saku Koivu play any North American games before breaking into the NHL? That would be a no. And we all know what Selanne did that year, huh?

 

I don't know what Teemu's plans are post-NHL, but quote often stars of his caliber stick around w/ their organization in some capacity. If Selanne and Koivu play another season, take up coaching, administrative position, or just stay involved with the organization in general, I could see them having a profound effect on a young Fin looking to make his way in the NHL. He probably looked up to them as a kid.

 

On Sekera: Calling someone a "3rd" or "4th" defenseman holds no weight to me. What is a #4 d-man on the Sabres could be a #2 d-man elsewhere, and vice versa. Heck, Lindy could play a "#6" defenseman on a pairing with Myers for a game -- does that make him our "#2" defenseman? There is a place for a puck moving defenseman who is solid in his own end on just about any team, especially at Sekera's salary. He has pretty good wheels for a d-man too.

 

On Enroth: I look at Enroth as a goaltender prospect, not yet a backup. He is a back-up because the Sabres have had one of the best in the game starting at the position for Enroth's entire career. He never had a chance, really, to claim a starting job.

 

That said, you're right that the proposed deal isn't enough. I would throw in Stafford instead of Pardy, although I would be one of the few reluctant to see him go without trying him alongside Ennis for a full season. However, the main point of my post, really, was to gauge your interest in including Armia as part of the deal. Yes? No? Maybe?

 

I would trade Armia and Sekera for Ryan in a heartbeat -- and I like both of them as Sabres' prospects. I just don't think it's nearly enough to move the needle for Anaheim.

 

As for Sekera, I agree that he has value. For that matter, I still think he has Soupy-like upside. But he played nearly 3 minutes less per game than Leopold, who was 3rd among Sabres' defensemen in ice time last year.

 

If the Sabres want Ryan, I think the price is going to be something like Stafford, Sekera, one of McNabb/Armia and a #1, with perhaps a #2 and/or a prospect coming back.

[IKnowPhysics]

Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a head coach will get fired, or a truckload of GMs will be dumped, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when I say that one little old player will get traded, well then everyone loses their minds!

 

[Weave]

Here's the deal....just look at the profiles. Our fine teenage friend here is buds with Jack who does his own blog. He posts on Jack's site. Mike Straw has his own "reporting" site as well which is pretty much a regurgitated blog, but he can write a bit. I haven't read what our new poster friend here has on Jack's site, because it seems to me this is just sort of an A-ball minor league circlejerk, trying to drive up hits and recognition. It's working since our buddy "Straw" has 20% more twitter followers since last night.

 

I'm all for young kids trying to get into the sports "journalism" game. Follow your dreams.....but don't come around and try to start crap in order to drive hits somewhere. Jack at least is a good poster here and has nice stuff to say and opinions worth reading. Maybe you do as well, but so far it just seems you are looking for 15 minutes of something.

 

If you want to be a journalist.....you investigate....go for the facts.....and present them out in ways the average person may not look at things. Dropping names or being part of Twitter/Bleacher Report/blogs....does not help in trying to get there. You are much better off saying what you have to say and if it floats....it floats. Especially when attempting to clog this site with junk.

 

It's bad enough when we have the Sabres shills trying to deflect on this message board. We don't need spam.

 

Don't take it too personal. Just a word of advice from one of the children. You are 19.....lot of life left Lord willing. You can look for "hits and page views".....or you can look for the truth, use your head, and deliver that message in a valuable way to educate people that may not have the time, passion, or ability you have.

 

Good Luck DStebb.

 

Everyone sees points. Dwight sees dots that need to be connected. :P

[thesportsbuff]

First of all...your username/blog name/twitter handle are amazing. Well done.

 

Second...if Darcy made that trade I would turn my savings account into pennies, melt them down, and make him a copper statue in my front yard.

 

Missed this post.. thanks! :D

 

I would trade Armia and Sekera for Ryan in a heartbeat -- and I like both of them as Sabres' prospects. I just don't think it's nearly enough to move the needle for Anaheim.

 

As for Sekera, I agree that he has value. For that matter, I still think he has Soupy-like upside. But he played nearly 3 minutes less per game than Leopold, who was 3rd among Sabres' defensemen in ice time last year.

 

If the Sabres want Ryan, I think the price is going to be something like Stafford, Sekera, one of McNabb/Armia and a #1, with perhaps a #2 and/or a prospect coming back.

 

If it's Armia, I do it. McNabb, I don't.

 

McNabb is basically untouchable to me, Armia isn't there yet.

 

But then again... if you asked me in January, I'd have said Kassian was untouchable. Now I'm much happier with Hodgson.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

Everyone sees points. Dwight sees dots that need to be connected. :P

 

I did have an Indian girlfriend.......

[thesportsbuff]

I did have an Indian girlfriend.......

 

you're too much, lol

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

you're too much, lol

 

I don't want kill the kid, I have a 3 strikes rule and he went over pretty quick. He started multiple threads that have been discussed to no end, talked down to multiple posters and the forum in general, then this namedropping in a thread that didn't need to be opened was the clincher.

 

I like YOUR posts. I never said a word because you bring good, thought out points and are always polite. So you promote your blog....that's fine because it has never seemed like your purpose for being here.

 

Now...........young jedi here..........just trying to give him a pointer or two. You can aim to be a journalist......and since it is a message board, feel free to drop your opinions in as well......but he's trying too hard to follow the columnist/sports talk route of character.....and with so many obvious lights going off in such a short period of time, it's probably not the best idea at this point. There is a reason Jerry Sullivan is good at what he does......because he actually believes in what he is saying and is not playing a character. There is no doubt in my mind, because the line of reasoning he uses and feel he goes off of is similar to mine, and I know where that comes from. He is a little light on analytics and Buffalo history however, and that limits him from being an A+ guy. I respect his writing ability and where he is coming from.

 

Bottom line, he's young...he can be forgiven, but an early assesment of where you(Dsteb) want to really go with your life may be in order. He did get my attention though.....but then again so does a 300lb stripper in a bikini.

[lothar]

Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a head coach will get fired, or a truckload of GMs will be dumped, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when I say that one little old player will get traded, well then everyone loses their minds!

 

Too soon?

[LaFontaineToMogilny]

So Bobby Ryan is one of just seven players with at least 30 goals in four straight seasons while brandishing an "extremely spotty work ethic." I'll take it.

 

Yes, you are right. Bobby Ryan has 4 consecutive 30 goal seasons, he is a talented player.

 

The problem I have with Bobby Ryan is that he is also a whiny, super sensitive primadonna who puts himself in front of the team, takes absolutely everything personally, and is just biding his time anyway until he can sign for his favorite team, the Philadelphia Flyers. He will never go into the corners, won't ever back check, won't get himself dirty to get to the puck. He's basically been given a free ride by the Ducks that have done everything they can to make him succeed, including playing him heavily on a their first line with Getzlaf and superstuddly Corey Perry. After all this he has the audacity to publicly state that while playing with good players like Perry and Getzlaf is great, what a dream it would be to play with Claude Giroux.

 

I hate that Bobby Ryan isn't already traded somewhere else so I don't have to read about the Sabres being 'in hard on Ryan' over and over. The thought of the Sabres giving up almost anything for a POS like Bobby Ryan makes me ill. I don't want to spend another day fearing that the Sabres will give up something of value for him. And I hate how I can't help but go on meaningless rants on this board when the rumors of Ryan to the Sabres pop up.

[Hoss]

Mkay, so I'm new here. I had no idea this board existed prior to about a week ago. I had no idea what has/hasn't been discussed. I have no idea how things operate around here, I'm learning a bit. If someone is going to come out with an insult, I'm going to return one. A simple "this isn't how things are done here, this is how we handle stuff like this" would have been much more beneficial to anybody involve.

 

I enjoy speculation because right now what else is there? I apologize if anything I've posted doesn't fit to the board's wants/needs. I will learn what that is eventually and become a better contributor to this board in that manor.

 

I'll be less hostile in the future if there's more constructive comments and less insulting comments. Thanks for any help, and I'll keep these comments in mind.

 

I do believe this thread has generated good discussion, and I believe that's all that should matter at this point. Do I personally believe this Straw guy? No. Do I want to? Absolutely. I'll be back on later, hopefully some of you will understand that I'm not here to be a dick. I'm here to talk Sabres hockey and have a good time. That's all.

 

I apologize if I insulted anybody, otherwise cheers and go Sabres.

 

 

Time for work. Will have to finish watching the Sabres-Pens winter classic later (thank Pegula for DVR).

[Stoner]

DStebb, 41 posts and the townspeople have the pitchforks and torches out! Well done. Really, we're going to run this guy off our propity? And one of the runners-off, citing decorum, moments later responded to another poster with his famous retort -- "nonsense."

 

My fellow physicians... heal thyselves.