Andrew Amerk Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 I couldn't believe the Sabres actually allow bloggers into the game and in the pressbox with free food and drinks, then the interview room after the game. A bunch of you said it though...which led me to ask if anyone from Sabrespace does so. Chz says she has credentials and has, but not so much last year because she would rather root for the team. Now I think for the most part it's pretty free wheeling around here....but it also explains why someone would get attacked or banned for pointing out negative facts about Sabres employees. The gravy train gets derailed if that is the case. Thank you for explaining. In a general sense, I disagree. Plenty of blogs, as well as other media, have written and said disparaging things about the team, players, and office figures over the years. Aside from when that one BN writer was banned from the locker room, media/blogs still have freedom to their opinions. To what extent they go, is up to each individual site/ news medium.
Stoner Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Wait… chz has a press pass and used it? What work was produced from that experience? A post? An article? A video? A podcast? Did I miss something?
That Aud Smell Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Wait… chz has a press pass and used it? What work was produced from that experience? A post? An article? A video? A podcast? Did I miss something? If you were to add up all the things that Scott has done to maintain traffic on this board, they might all amount to less than the effect that Chz (the Chz persona) has.
spndnchz Posted July 24, 2013 Author Report Posted July 24, 2013 Holy ###### are you dense? Chz didn't ban you because you said Pegula or Rolston or Darcy or Vanek or Miller or Girgensons ETC... suck or were terrible at running a hockey team. I am fairly certain it was your continued assertion that Terry Pegula was in league with a pedophile and condoned/knew of his pedophilia or, even as hinted, was a part of it. If that doesn't get you banned when there is absolutely 0 evidence supporting it when you constantly throw it around like its the gospel well then we might as well start a thunderdome and chz and you get fight to the death! 2posters enter, 1 poster leaves. If Sandusky worked for Penn State and Terry Pegula went to Penn State and is from Buffalo and My sister in law is from Buffalo and her husband also went to an affiliate of Penn State and both are Sabres fans and I have met Terry's wife Kim than clearly with all those connection I knew what was going on and should be arrested because I must have been in league with Sandusky!... 2nd ###### thread in a weak where I am tossing this out, IF chewbacca, an 8ft tall wookie lives on Endor with a bunch of 2ft tall ewoks, that does not make sense. Stop making sense. If you were to add up all the things that Scott has done to maintain traffic on this board, they might all amount to less than the effect that Chz (the Chz persona) has. I don't know Scott. I've never met him. Same goes for everyone on the board except... Thank you for explaining. In a general sense, I disagree. Plenty of blogs, as well as other media, have written and said disparaging things about the team, players, and office figures over the years. Aside from when that one BN writer was banned from the locker room, media/blogs still have freedom to their opinions. To what extent they go, is up to each individual site/ news medium. You too. Stop making sense. We only live in what ifs here.
That Aud Smell Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 I don't know Scott. I've never met him. Gotcha.
IKnowPhysics Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 So you'd be okay with... I suppose you'd be against... You don't have to defend your decisions. Seriously. You run Bartertown.
TrueBlueGED Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Isolated incidents are different from continuous patterns... This really sums up the whole Drane suspension thing for me. It's not about the posts in this thread, it's about the posts in this thread and a handful of others over a period of time, making very thinly-veiled and very serious assertions based on nothing other than an extremely questionable interpretation of some facts and some business connections. Drane, I can't believe you can connect every dot in the world...except these dots.
K-9 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 This really sums up the whole Drane suspension thing for me. It's not about the posts in this thread, it's about the posts in this thread and a handful of others over a period of time, making very thinly-veiled and very serious assertions based on nothing other than an extremely questionable interpretation of some facts and some business connections. Drane, I can't believe you can connect every dot in the world...except these dots. Ghost never met a dot he didn't like. GO SABRES!!!
Weave Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Ghost never met a dot he didn't like. GO SABRES!!! Mmmmmm........ Bollywood porn
Stoner Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Chz should have to issue a Shanaban video explaining everything.
shrader Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Chz should have to issue a Shanaban video explaining everything. :clapping:
Taro T Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Chz should have to issue a Shanaban video explaining everything. Can SDS's servers handle the increase in bandwidth?
SDS Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 It's all just words on a message board. People can say what ever they want as many times as they want, why would I care otherwise? If you let another poster get to you, that's on you, not the other poster. Parking tickets serve three purposes, 1) revenue for the city 2) keeps one side of the street clear for snow plows 3) keeps traffic flowing (for those that double park). Which are three more credible reasons than there are for bans/suspensions. Over the years posters on this board have done a good job of policing themselves. You are free to have whatever opinion you want on how a message board should operate. However, what we do here and at TBD reflects my preference. It's been that way for 15 years and it will always be that way. There is no way to please everyone, so we aren't going to try. The gravy train gets derailed if that is the case. Friggin hilarious. "Gravy train". :w00t: SabreSpace isn't even self-supportive. Two Bills Drive pays the bills. This is a labor of love for everyone involved. I think Kyle Gunn-Taylor who wrote two articles for us, maybe 3, may have used our name to get in the press box. He asked and I said sure. Haven't heard from him since. Clearly, the website has benefitted from that. :rolleyes: Hope that gravy train never stops! I might be able to buy actual ingredients for gravy if I save long enough. :lol: As for Chz, I have never met her and she has never mentioned having credentials to me. If she got 'em, good for her - whoever "her" is in real life. Either way, she's alright by me.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Scott....I didn't mean to imply you are making money off it. I'm saying that it is reasonable to assume someone would want to protect their "perks" by coming down disproportionate on the same level of commentary if it shows those associated with the Sabres in a negative light. She said she has credentials.....if it isn't from here and you don't know who she is, then how does she have them? If you have never met her, and this is YOUR website, then I am even more confused as to why she cares what is said by anyone. She's not on the line for it, you are. And I mentioned in private that I understand the sensitive nature of a subject like Cliff Benson's association with the whole fiasco. It's that reason that you have to go out and find facts, because only a few places have had the stones to publish information that doesn't come right out of the mouths of officials. And again, I can't say what he knew, and when...just that I would hope that in such a disgusting chain of events, we would have had a stronger response from the Sabres' brass instead of pretending nothing happened and going into hiding. If I was the financial head of the SPCA when Michael Vick was CEO, and Vick took dozens of dogs from the property, and requested sending out multiple big ticket payments to the same "foster shelters" over time, when in reality the animals were being used as bait for a giant pitbull fighting and gambling operation......would it not be fair to ask me some questions at the very least before I was appointed the Finance head at the SPCA in another county? Wouldn't you at least expect me to say, "I'm so sorry I missed any signs. Even though I am a career auditor for companies 100x as large as this, I simply could have never imagined such a devious act was taking place."??? That is what is so disturbing. This place runs smoothly 99% of the time, and I will refrain from commenting about the Penn State issues when not relevant. I am not happy about it, but in fairness to Chz, I was warned ahead of time. Enough balanced members have chimed in to let me know her decision is supported by more than a small minority, so I will accept it and move on.
That Aud Smell Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 And I mentioned in private that I understand the sensitive nature of a subject like Cliff Benson's association with the whole fiasco. It's that reason that you have to go out and find facts, because only a few places have had the stones to publish information that doesn't come right out of the mouths of officials. And again, I can't say what he knew, and when...just that I would hope that in such a disgusting chain of events, we would have had a stronger response from the Sabres' brass instead of pretending nothing happened and going into hiding. FWIW: Hear, hear. She said she has credentials.....if it isn't from here and you don't know who she is, then how does she have them? Could Chz have gotten them by representing Chz-self as a Mod of this Board, absent Scott's imprimatur? I guess Chz can answer.
shrader Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Being a moderator on a message board is not something that is going to get a person press credentials at a hockey game. Thoughts like that are good signs that we think we're bigger than we really are.
Stoner Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Can SDS's servers handle the increase in bandwidth? I'm not sure my old man jeans would. Wait, they are elastic.
dudacek Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong GoDD, but you may have made the mistake of many thinkers and writers — assuming a lack of response to something meant you needed to keep repeating it until the message resonates. Speaking strictly for myself, the first time I read your take on Penn State, I thought "hmm, interesting questions." But my thoughts were that Pegula is far enough removed from the situation, that when nothing linking him surfaced, Occam's Razor sufficed: the Sabres are not talking about it because they don't want to bring the team into an ugly situation that they are only connected to by a pretty tenuous thread. And as a private citizen certainly Pegula doesn't have to comment any more than you would if you made a donation to the Catholic Church and a local priest was busted for child abuse. So, while I respected the fact you were asking the question, I didn't get involved in the conversation. But I did grow puzzled about your repeated references to Penn State in reference to the Sabres, despite lack of any news. For me you switched from just asking questions to becoming on advocate on the subject. I mean, a lot of interesting ###### gets talked about on this site, but most are here to talk about the Sabres. Eventually, this just didn't seem to be Sabre-related anymore, and having it constantly pop up in Sabre talk grew tiresome. Face it, we aren't going to stop child abuse by talking about it on Sabrespace. Really, it's all about appropriate time and place. And I am glad your last post seems to indicate you get that. Because, as I said earlier, I enjoy reading your hockey talk.
spndnchz Posted July 24, 2013 Author Report Posted July 24, 2013 Could Chz have gotten them by representing Chz-self as a Mod of this Board, absent Scott's imprimatur? I guess Chz can answer. No.
Stoner Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 No. Chz! Chz! Over here! Chz! Chz! Flashing cameras. Reporters jostle. A boom microphone hits Sam Donaldson on the head. He curses. "Chz! What did SDS know and when did he know it!!" Chz!
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Being a moderator on a message board is not something that is going to get a person press credentials at a hockey game. Thoughts like that are good signs that we think we're bigger than we really are. She says she has credentials. If not from here, then where? It would be nice to know. And if you can get credentials by hosting a blog, I would think this place has as good of a chance as any to get credentials. Multiple posters here say they have them. As much as I hate pimping of one's website, at least SportsBuff and DStebb have given full disclosure. As it is, for as much as certain people mock my thought process, I have seen those same people run to the media with my theory on things on occasion. I really don't care....it just makes me grin. And I'm not trying to make this about Chz. She warned me about Cliff Benson postings. I just wish when she banned me she could have said that was the reason because that is more valid than saying it was because of a reference to an unbecoming team activity involving a baked good. There are a dozen posts a day that could get slapped for more than that. I accept what my "punishment" was and like I said, a lot of people don't want to hear about Penn State and the Sabres, so I will accept that also. Like dudacek said, you can't save the world.
Hoss Posted July 24, 2013 Report Posted July 24, 2013 Talking about Girgensons gets some people fired up. I like him even more every day.
Weave Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 She says she has credentials. If not from here, then where? It would be nice to know. And if you can get credentials by hosting a blog, I would think this place has as good of a chance as any to get credentials. Multiple posters here say they have them. As much as I hate pimping of one's website, at least SportsBuff and DStebb have given full disclosure. As it is, for as much as certain people mock my thought process, I have seen those same people run to the media with my theory on things on occasion. I really don't care....it just makes me grin. And I'm not trying to make this about Chz. She warned me about Cliff Benson postings. I just wish when she banned me she could have said that was the reason because that is more valid than saying it was because of a reference to an unbecoming team activity involving a baked good. There are a dozen posts a day that could get slapped for more than that. I accept what my "punishment" was and like I said, a lot of people don't want to hear about Penn State and the Sabres, so I will accept that also. Like dudacek said, you can't save the world. Why do you care how she got them? And it's private business anyway. As in none of yours. I'm curious about it too, if only because it is human nature to be curious. But it's rather rude to publicly ask over and over about something private that she obviously is not interested in making public. Dwight, I like you. I've avoided responding previously because I don't want to be part of a dogpile. I've defended you plenty in the past. But you are in a hole here. And you are managing to dig deeper and deeper. Put down the shovel dude. Please.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted July 25, 2013 Report Posted July 25, 2013 Why do you care how she got them? And it's private business anyway. As in none of yours. I'm curious about it too, if only because it is human nature to be curious. But it's rather rude to publicly ask over and over about something private that she obviously is not interested in making public. Dwight, I like you. I've avoided responding previously because I don't want to be part of a dogpile. I've defended you plenty in the past. But you are in a hole here. And you are managing to dig deeper and deeper. Put down the shovel dude. Please. Rude to ask? Why? If I was posting on the Buffalo Sabres message board....I know who is in control. If I post on the Buffalo News message board, I know who is in control. If I post on a supposed 3rd party board that is moderated by someone who has media credentials.....who is in control? Who is getting unfettered access to all content and private messages, and in what realm are they using information from this board? I know who WGR550 is, and the Buffalo News, and WGRZ, etc. If someone uses information and ideas from here.....which they do on plenty of occasion, it can be monitored. Most of the media may use ideas from here but put their own spin on it or turn the idea around. Hey...bottom line is it is my choice to be here. I like the people, but am going Galt in the hockey realm.
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