SwampD Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 The cliche response always winds up being "nothing will change until someone dies". At this point that's probably not even the case. As for Kerry Frasier, I do like his columns, but he does so often miss a major detail. He's making all of these decisions based on seeing the replay a million times. That's not valid at all when questioning a call made on the ice. The refs see it once at full speed with obstructed views. They're never going to get everything right. We all fall victim to it on here too. There's one thing I'd love to see in this game: helmet cams on refs. Who wouldn't want to see things from the refs point of view on that tying goal against Toronto last week? It'll never happen but that would be cool. No play shows better the "Ref perspective" effect than Pominville's concussion. http://fanshots.com/...ille-concussion In the angle at :02, there is no doubt the hit was from behind. The view at :38 (almost exactly the same as the ref's angle), the hit looks like it's from the side. I just want to add that I don't think they will ever use helmet cams not because they would show what the Ref saw when he made a call, but what he saw when he didn't make one.
Jeanbe Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 I don't understand the logic of the "white out" in Phoenix with all/most fans wearing white (obviously a carry-over from the Winnipeg roots of the franchise) yet the Coyotes are wearing all red uniforms and the Hawks are wearing white. It kind of looks like the fans are supporting the road team... Phoenix is always at least a 1/4 full of other teams fans and IMO 3/4 Wings fans when Detroit is in town. On Toews goal a good section of the lower bowl jumped for joy. The hawks fans were wearing their white road jerseys.
shrader Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 It'll never happen but that would be cool. No play shows better the "Ref perspective" effect than Pominville's concussion. http://fanshots.com/...ille-concussion In the angle at :02, there is no doubt the hit was from behind. The view at :38 (almost exactly the same as the ref's angle), the hit looks like it's from the side. I just want to add that I don't think they will ever use helmet cams not because they would show what the Ref saw when he made a call, but what he saw when he didn't make one. Their union would never allow it. I'm mostly just thinking out loud on that one. There are a million things that would be cool to see which we never actually will. And do you remember what they called on that Pominville hit? The one thing that was very clear from that clip is that both ref's arms immediately went up.
SwampD Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Their union would never allow it. I'm mostly just thinking out loud on that one. There are a million things that would be cool to see which we never actually will. And do you remember what they called on that Pominville hit? The one thing that was very clear from that clip is that both ref's arms immediately went up. I don't remember, but I'll guess interference.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Nothing will change as long as they have a former player doing the job. As much as I hated Terry Frazer as a ref he's proven to me with his work on T.S.N. that he might not be a bad alternative to someone like shanny. His insight always makes sense. The problem isn't Shanahan per se, it's the GMs. Remember in preseason? He was dishing out heavy punishment like nobody's business...8 games for Wisniewski!?!?! In the fall GM meetings, the GMs essentially told him he was being too heavy handed, and now we basically have Colin Campbell's clone.
spndnchz Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Their union would never allow it. I'm mostly just thinking out loud on that one. There are a million things that would be cool to see which we never actually will. And do you remember what they called on that Pominville hit? The one thing that was very clear from that clip is that both ref's arms immediately went up. 5 minutes, boarding and a game misconduct
dEnnis the Menace Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 How did I miss this? ouch! although, that happening to a bruin, inflicted by their own fans is hilarious in a sick and twisted way. :angel:
X. Benedict Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 How did I miss this? http://youtu.be/yQE9ve1kkjU When stanchions attack.
spndnchz Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 This comment is funny "This was a deliberate hit to the head and back of an unsuspecting player who didnt have the puck. The glass is a repeat offender who has cheapshotted numerous players before, see Zetterberg and Clifford, just yesterday. Therefore, the NHL will suspend the glass 5 games."
X. Benedict Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 This comment is funny "This was a deliberate hit to the head and back of an unsuspecting player who didnt have the puck. The glass is a repeat offender who has cheapshotted numerous players before, see Zetterberg and Clifford, just yesterday. Therefore, the NHL will suspend the glass 5 games." That would make a great Shanny video. :lol:
Eleven Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 This comment is funny "This was a deliberate hit to the head and back of an unsuspecting player who didnt have the puck. The glass is a repeat offender who has cheapshotted numerous players before, see Zetterberg and Clifford, just yesterday. Therefore, the NHL will suspend the glass 5 games." Would have been 3, but it was a Bruin.
SwampD Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Would have been 3, but it was a Bruin. :lol:
rickshaw Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Not gonna lie, but had that bonked Mr Smug Thomas on the melon, I wouldn't have shed a tear, especially if he had to miss the rest of the playoffs.
millbank Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Nothing will change as long as they have a former player doing the job. As much as I hated Terry Frazer as a ref he's proven to me with his work on T.S.N. that he might not be a bad alternative to someone like shanny. His insight always makes sense. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=393053 sound reasoning from Frazer , his thinking Weber should have been given one game suspension plus fine. Myself would like to see a starting point of five games for first offense , suspensions doubling for all other intent to injure, this carried over his entire career, and if action results in player being injured and not able to play , suspended player should be out until injured player declared healthy to resume playing. yikes fast goal penguins 1 - 0 15 seconds.
JJFIVEOH Posted April 13, 2012 Report Posted April 13, 2012 Panthers getting outshot 23-7 and there's still 4 minutes left in the 1st!
TrueBlueGED Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Panthers getting outshot 23-7 and there's still 4 minutes left in the 1st! Sounds about right. The Panthers aren't good.
SwampD Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 I love the Delay of Game penalty. It does what it was intended to do, create scoring chances, and there is no referee judgement in making the call. It either is or it isn't.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Newsflash: goaltending still matters, a lot. When you score 5 goals, you should win. Holy crap was Fleury awful tonight.
darksabre Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 This Philly series is blowing my mind. Bryz is just making all the right saves and Fleury isn't. Easy as that.
darksabre Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Boy are the Kings tenacious. Is it any coincidence that Ted Nolan's kid plays for them?
bunomatic Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 I don't know whats worse right now. Being a canucks fan or being a sabres fan. The kings are ahead 4-2 for a 2 games to none lead going back to L.A.
TheChimp Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Duncan Keith it was, right? With the flying elbow to the Canucks playoff hopes? Tsk tsk.
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