qwksndmonster Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Definitely Bergeron, but he's a pretty special player.
JJFIVEOH Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 This is a premise I have wholeheartedly disagreed with. Considering the Sabres history, if both players max out their potential, Kassian a top-6 power forward and Hodgson a top-2 Center, fans will look back on this trade with regret. Even though in recent Sabres history they have been unable to fill the top two center positions, their has been even a longer drought of legit NHL power forwards on this roster. One of these days I wish you'd start a thread and you could tell us exactly what the Sabres need to be, player by player. Because nothing ever seems to be good enough for you.
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Nobody loves successful teams like DeLuca. Fixed it for you.
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Just for the sake of discussion: who is more important to the Bruins: Bergeron or Lucic? Because those 2 IMHO represent the respective ceilings for Hodgson and Kassian. IMHO it's Bergeron, but it would be great to have both. Bergeron will get a lot of play because he was a warrior in the playoffs. The Bruins became a different team once Lucic emerged. I'd take Lucic. A bit bandwagonish aye? Successful teams tend to have more talented players and tend to play a better brand of hockey than the bottom feeders. It gives you perspective when the home town team spends a decade mired in irrelevancy.
spndnchz Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Bergeron will get a lot of play because he was a warrior in the playoffs. The Bruins became a different team once Lucic emerged. I'd take Lucic. Successful teams tend to have more talented players and tend to play a better brand of hockey than the bottom feeders. It gives you perspective when the home town team spends a decade mired in irrelevancy. My point is you only like the best things from a number of teams. Too easy.
Lanny Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3h Photo shoot with Cody Hodgson and #HusqvarnaCanada http://instagram.com/p/cXapCIrkmx/ Edited July 30, 2013 by Lanny
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 My point is you only like the best things from a number of teams. Too easy. You mean I watch successful teams and put an emphasis on what those teams do that make those teams successful? I think the point should be why doesn't everyone. If your not looking to the successful teams and what they are doing to be successful then what are you comparing what the Sabres are doing to? David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3h Photo shoot with Cody Hodgson and #HusqvarnaCanada http://instagram.com/p/cXapCIrkmx/ Riding a lawnmower? Gary Roberts is a genius. How many calories does that burn?
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Whatevs. Thanks for adding to the conversation. :thumbsup:
ubkev Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3h Photo shoot with Cody Hodgson and #HusqvarnaCanada http://instagram.com/p/cXapCIrkmx/ Oh snap! When will Kassian fire back with John Deere? Or perhaps New Holland?
qwksndmonster Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 You can play Bergeron 18-20 of the hardest minutes a night and he'll shut down the opposition while throwing up ~70 points. Lucic is a great physical presence that can open up the ice and score. He slumps offensively sometimes, as do all power forwards. Both are important but without Bergeron the Bs forwards would be much worse than without Lucic.
darksabre Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Oh snap! When will Kassian fire back with John Deere? Or perhaps New Holland? Whichever it is, Deluca will be buying one.
ubkev Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Whichever it is, Deluca will be buying one. Ok now that made me laugh.
qwksndmonster Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 You mean I watch successful teams and put an emphasis on what those teams do that make those teams successful? I think the point should be why doesn't everyone. If you're not looking to the successful teams and what they are doing to be successful then what are you comparing what the Sabres are doing to? It's fine to respect successful teams. Comparing absolutely everything about good teams to the Sabres is exhausting when you do it at every given chance. We're bad. Everyone knows. Teams that are better than us are in a better position to win. It's a pretty well known concept. We're Sabres fans, though. Going out of your way to bash them constantly is needless. Sorry for being so apathetic :mellow:
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 It's fine to respect successful teams. Comparing absolutely everything about good teams to the Sabres is exhausting when you do it at every given chance. We're bad. Everyone knows. Teams that are better than us are in a better position to win. It's a pretty well known concept. We're Sabres fans, though. Going out of your way to bash them constantly is needless. Sorry for being so apathetic :mellow: It's sort of the point of a message board. To discuss where the Sabres where, where they are now and what they need do to get better. The Sabres are in one of the most dismal stretches in franchise history. I'm not Willy Wonka, I'm not here to candy coat things for you or anyone else. I post opinions based on my observations, as most do, I'll post positive when I see positive. I'm not going to ignore what i see in favor of some sugar coated wishful thinking.
qwksndmonster Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 You're right. Not accentuating the negative is sugarcoating things.
thesportsbuff Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Which does nothing but reinforce my belief that we should have taken Nichushkin. Just for the sake of discussion: who is more important to the Bruins: Bergeron or Lucic? Because those 2 IMHO represent the respective ceilings for Hodgson and Kassian. IMHO it's Bergeron, but it would be great to have both. I agree with both of these posts.
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Whichever it is, Deluca will be buying one. Riding lawnmowers are for soft undersized centers. Real men like Zach Kassian and myself use these:
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3h Photo shoot with Cody Hodgson and #HusqvarnaCanada http://instagram.com/p/cXapCIrkmx/ Fitting that it goes 4x as fast forward as it does in reverse.........
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3h Photo shoot with Cody Hodgson and #HusqvarnaCanada http://instagram.com/p/cXapCIrkmx/ Separated at birth?
bunomatic Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 It's sort of the point of a message board. To discuss where the Sabres where, where they are now and what they need do to get better. The Sabres are in one of the most dismal stretches in franchise history. I'm not Willy Wonka, I'm not here to candy coat things for you or anyone else. I post opinions based on my observations, as most do, I'll post positive when I see positive. I'm not going to ignore what i see in favor of some sugar coated wishful thinking. I tend to agree with your way of thinking here. Until this team figures out what is wrong they can't fix it. Pointing out the negatives isn't the problem here. Pointing out the few positives on a dreadful team while ignoring the glaring problems is.
TrueBlueGED Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Riding a lawnmower? Gary Roberts is a genius. How many calories does that burn? Whatevs. Thanks for adding to the conversation. :thumbsup: Anyone else find this series of DeLuca posts amusing?
JJFIVEOH Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 You're right. Not accentuating the negative is sugarcoating things. The ironic part about all this is the fact that just last month you were sticking up for everybody who posts negative comments about Darcy in a selfish attempt to attack me. Gotta love them double standards. Anyone else find this series of DeLuca posts amusing? I got a chuckle out of it.
deluca67 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Posted July 30, 2013 Anyone else find this series of DeLuca posts amusing? Splicing together two different conversations, that's almost clever on your part. Keep working at it, you'll get there kid.
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