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2012 Trade RUMOR Thread. (Keep the deadline thread for substantiated stuff).

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Weave Hall of Famer

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According to Brad May, re: Gaustad---

 

Brad May ‏ @maydayhockey

#scoop I'm hearing that Paul Gaustad will cost a first round pick if traded! and is looking for a 5-6 year deal at 3 mill

 

A first round pick would be a helluva return on him. I'd do it.

 

Here's the dilemma. If Goose gets moved there is NO WAY Roy gets moved too. No way Darcy trades 2 of the 3 natural centers on this team.

 

Yet another reason to fire Darcy. The chronic lack of centers depth is preventing us from moving assets that should be moved.

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I do understand the fear of getting rid of a center, but it doesn't really matter for this season. With Roy out, the team did BETTER last year, and that's without center depth just like now. Plus, we might be able to really get a nice return for him if Gaustad will net us a nice return.

 

Trade both, ground Stafford (since he's Lindy's "son" and all) and give the fans HOPE that next season might look different.

 

Roy is "Lindys son" not Stafford.

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Here's the dilemma. If Goose gets moved there is NO WAY Roy gets moved too. No way Darcy trades 2 of the 3 natural centers on this team.

I think in that instance the hope would be that Roy would return a center, if not they probably don't deal him.

Weave Hall of Famer

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I think in that instance the hope would be that Roy would return a center, if not they probably don't deal him.

 

I've been pounding out this name a bunch but Steve Ott is rumored to be available. If Goose moves maybe we can get Ott to replace him and still be able to move Roy.

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A first round pick would be a helluva return on him. I'd do it.

 

Here's the dilemma. If Goose gets moved there is NO WAY Roy gets moved too. No way Darcy trades 2 of the 3 natural centers on this team.

 

Yet another reason to fire Darcy. The chronic lack of centers depth is preventing us from moving assets that should be moved.

 

So DR sucks because he didn't bring in centers and he sucks because he won't get rid of them. Got it, thanks! :P

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A first round pick would be a helluva return on him. I'd do it.

 

Here's the dilemma. If Goose gets moved there is NO WAY Roy gets moved too. No way Darcy trades 2 of the 3 natural centers on this team.

 

Yet another reason to fire Darcy. The chronic lack of centers depth is preventing us from moving assets that should be moved.

I don't think it's that much of a dilemma though. If we trade either guy, we're basically saying that this season is over for us. So why not trade the other one?

 

Ideally we're trading for a prospect who could step in and play center next season. If not, we could make another trade in the summer (possibly using one of the draft picks we'd be acquiring tomorrow) to pick up a center. We could also sign someone. There are ways to get our center situation settled by next Fall.

 

Also, I know Luke Adam is a mess right now, but I'm OK with he and Ennis being two of our top 3 centers next season. We'd need to find someone else for the Top 3 but that's not impossible. I don't know who our fourth liner center would be but they're not impossible to find.

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Also, I know Luke Adam is a mess right now, but I'm OK with he and Ennis being two of our top 3 centers next season. We'd need to find someone else for the Top 3 but that's not impossible. I don't know who our fourth liner center would be but they're not impossible to find.

 

Cody McCormick can fill that role once he returns.

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Cody McCormick can fill that role once he returns.

If the Sabres are going with a youth movement next season (fingers crossed), I'm hoping they bring in an older player or two for the fourth line just to help bring the younger guys along.

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According to Brad May, re: Gaustad---

 

Brad May ‏ @maydayhockey

#scoop I'm hearing that Paul Gaustad will cost a first round pick if traded! and is looking for a 5-6 year deal at 3 mill

 

Getting a first round pick (even a high 20's pick) for Gaustad would be great, especially if we could still find a way to re-sign him in July. I'd be ok with offering him a 5 year deal, but I'd try to get him to sign for about $2.5 million or so per year. Maybe he'd take less money overall if we front load it like they did with Ehrhoff.

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If Regier is trying to get a 1st for Gaustad, I think we know why he hasn't been traded yet. I think we also know why he's been unable to find a suitor for Roy. If Gaustad is worth a 1st to Regier, what is Roy worth? 2 1sts and a top prospect?

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If Regier is trying to get a 1st for Gaustad, I think we know why he hasn't been traded yet. I think we also know why he's been unable to find a suitor for Roy. If Gaustad is worth a 1st to Regier, what is Roy worth? 2 1sts and a top prospect?

I'd think you'd want a roster player or good prospect and a first for Roy. The thought is that they need to sell and take advantage of a sellers market. That won't really workout for them if they set the price where everyone will meet it or if they take the first thing offered. Plus there's 15 hours until the deadline for them to move off of their price.
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I'd think you'd want a roster player or good prospect and a first for Roy. The thought is that they need to sell and take advantage of a sellers market. That won't really workout for them if they set the price where everyone will meet it or if they take the first thing offered. Plus there's 15 hours until the deadline for them to move off of their price.

 

I just don't think they have a prayer of getting a 1st for Gaustad. Maybe a 2nd and 5th or something, but no way I would give up a 1st if I'm another GM. I agree on a prospect and 1st for Roy, but honestly if he's valuing Goose at a 1st, there's no way he's only asking for a prospect on top of that for Roy.

nfreeman Hall of Famer

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According to Brad May, re: Gaustad---

 

Brad May ‏ @maydayhockey

#scoop I'm hearing that Paul Gaustad will cost a first round pick if traded! and is looking for a 5-6 year deal at 3 mill

 

I will be sick and then outraged if DR gives Gaustad that kind of contract.

 

DR needs to sell him to the highest bidder and be done with it.

 

A first round pick would be a helluva return on him. I'd do it.

 

Here's the dilemma. If Goose gets moved there is NO WAY Roy gets moved too. No way Darcy trades 2 of the 3 natural centers on this team.

 

Yet another reason to fire Darcy. The chronic lack of centers depth is preventing us from moving assets that should be moved.

 

I've been wondering about this myself. I do think the odds of 2 centers departing and zero arriving tomorrow are pretty low.

 

I've been pounding out this name a bunch but Steve Ott is rumored to be available. If Goose moves maybe we can get Ott to replace him and still be able to move Roy.

 

Works for me.

 

Cody McCormick can fill that role once he returns.

 

McCormick seems like he may have recurring concussion issues.

 

If Regier is trying to get a 1st for Gaustad, I think we know why he hasn't been traded yet. I think we also know why he's been unable to find a suitor for Roy. If Gaustad is worth a 1st to Regier, what is Roy worth? 2 1sts and a top prospect?

I'd think you'd want a roster player or good prospect and a first for Roy. The thought is that they need to sell and take advantage of a sellers market. That won't really workout for them if they set the price where everyone will meet it or if they take the first thing offered. Plus there's 15 hours until the deadline for them to move off of their price.

 

It's not impossible, but I'd be pretty surprised if they got that much for Roy (and I also don't expect them to get a 1st for Gaustad).

 

I would guess:

 

Gaustad -- 2nd

Roy -- 2nd plus good but not elite prospect

LGR4GM Hall of Famer

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I will be sick and then outraged if DR gives Gaustad that kind of contract.

 

DR needs to sell him to the highest bidder and be done with it.

 

 

 

I've been wondering about this myself. I do think the odds of 2 centers departing and zero arriving tomorrow are pretty low.

 

 

 

Works for me.

 

 

 

McCormick seems like he may have recurring concussion issues.

 

 

 

 

It's not impossible, but I'd be pretty surprised if they got that much for Roy (and I also don't expect them to get a 1st for Gaustad).

 

I would guess:

 

Gaustad -- 2nd

Roy -- 2nd plus good but not elite prospect

Totally agree on the Gaustad line of thought. A raise for him would be outrageous considering everything.

 

so 65pt a year center is worth as much plus a touch more than a 4th liner who takes faceoffs well? I wouldn't trade Roy for a 2nd and a prospect thats "good" and besides I thought we already established that picks and prospects are not worth as much as proven nhl players?

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too many little guys.......

 

 

 

 

 

Gaustad is not the problem....perennial league leader in faceoff win %.....gets stuck on lines with misfit scorers like ellis, mccormick, kaleta.

 

this teams #1 need is a first line center with size who plays on the power play.

 

trade, salary dump, get rid of Forwards: Roy, Boyes, Ellis, McCormick, Stafford...even Gerbe (this fascination with a midget with heart is a waste of time).

deluca67 All Star

deluca67

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too many little guys.......

 

 

 

 

 

Gaustad is not the problem....perennial league leader in faceoff win %.....gets stuck on lines with misfit scorers like ellis, mccormick, kaleta.

 

this teams #1 need is a first line center with size who plays on the power play.

 

trade, salary dump, get rid of Forwards: Roy, Boyes, Ellis, McCormick, Stafford...even Gerbe (this fascination with a midget with heart is a waste of time).

When has Paul Gaustad led the league in face-off percentage?

deluca67 All Star

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I will be sick and then outraged if DR gives Gaustad that kind of contract.

 

DR needs to sell him to the highest bidder and be done with it.

That contract would be the culmination of all the fears of those that want Regier gone before any moves are made. The continuation of the over-valuing of his own players with another horrible contract.

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Sorry all but there is now way we are getting Nash! Buffalo is not on his list of destinations...

 

All I have read is Nash will wave is NTC for 6 places. I have yet to see a release of the six destinations but could guess them as:

 

1. Boston

2. NY Rangers

3. Philly

4. San Jose

5. Vancouver

6. Pittsburgh

 

Now wanting to go and the team having the cash is different story...

 

Teams I think that could be in the fight are:

 

1. Los Angeles

2. Colorado

3. Canadians

4. Buffalo

5. Toronto

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Wgr earlier said that Roy for schenn would be great and rumor has it leafs are willing to trade him

 

Doubtful. Buffalo has no need for a defenseman really. Not that Schenn wouldn't be a great addition, but a.) Schenn is a blue chip prospect and would cost more than just Roy alone, and b.) Darcy's priorities are out of line if he's adding a defenseman at this point.

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deluca67

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Doubtful. Buffalo has no need for a defenseman really. Not that Schenn wouldn't be a great addition, but a.) Schenn is a blue chip prospect and would cost more than just Roy alone, and b.) Darcy's priorities are out of line if he's adding a defenseman at this point.

If a Luke Schenn becomes available you change your priorities.

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