2012 Trade RUMOR Thread. (Keep the deadline thread for substantiated stuff).

[TheMatrix31]

Would definitely be a nice piece to have going forward. Sign me up.

[Punch]

Dustin Brown would be a perfect addition to this team, depending on the cost. Frankly, it baffles me why LA would move him aside from salary cap--- although his contract is generally pretty attractive. Reports have circulated they're interested in both Pominville and Stafford. It seems to me that something like Stafford and Gragnani plus a pick is actually the right price for a change.

[apuszczalowski]

Dustin Brown would be a perfect addition to this team, depending on the cost. Frankly, it baffles me why LA would move him aside from salary cap--- although his contract is generally pretty attractive. Reports have circulated they're interested in both Pominville and Stafford. It seems to me that something like Stafford and Gragnani plus a pick is actually the right price for a change.

It is a salary move, they want to clear space for when Quicks contract is up and he needs to be re-signed.

Thats why I'm not sure if they would want Stafford now, is Brown making that much more to make it still a Salary dump picking up Stafford plus? If they are looking to take back little salary, I wonder if McNabb and Boyes would be a good deal for Brown?

[wonderbread]

Because Dustin Brown would be the perfect addition to this team I fully expect him to go to Philly or Boston.

[Robviously]

Because Dustin Brown would be the perfect addition to this team I fully expect him to go to Philly or Boston.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

I don't know if anyone does gallows humor better than Buffalo fans.

[ron89]

As per Bob McKenzie at TSN on twitter- BOS, BUF, EDM, NJD, NYR, PHI, TOR, VAN amongst teams with high levels of interest in DUSTIN BROWN of LA. :w00t:

[CallawaySabres]

It is a salary move, they want to clear space for when Quicks contract is up and he needs to be re-signed.

Thats why I'm not sure if they would want Stafford now, is Brown making that much more to make it still a Salary dump picking up Stafford plus? If they are looking to take back little salary, I wonder if McNabb and Boyes would be a good deal for Brown?

 

As far as I'm concerned, McNabb is only part of a package that brings back a #1 center or PERHAPS a legit #2. I would not touch Myers or McNabb for ANY non center on the market.....

[nfreeman]

But back to the task at hand, and since this is the rumor thread and all: Would you do Poms for Brown, straight up?

 

I'm really unsure.

 

I would. The opening offer would be Roy, though.

 

I would trade stafford and a prospect or draft pick for brown.. Brown has the edge in numbers, but i bet stafford could easily become a 50 pt scorer with all the talent that team has

 

No kidding. Would you also trade a Hyundai for a Mercedes?

 

Sekera would fit their team well. They say they want to become more productive on offense.. Sekera might be able to give them that offensive push they need, you always need the d to step it up and without johnson. Even leo can help them out... just make a trade

 

Sekera isn't going to get it done either.

 

LA now has $2.6M in cap room so it can;t be two rostered players moving to LA. Looking at Staff and picks/prospects for sure. I don;t know if that is enough to convince LA to move Brown. They want in the playoffs NOW. Probably gonna have to be a better player than Staff.

 

I wonder if they are concentrating on D after moving Johnson?

 

Since they are dead last in the NHL in scoring, I'd expect them to want a forward. I'd guess that their first request to Darcy would be Ennis.

 

At 3 mill? Absolutely! look at his numbers - scores 25 ish goals a year and near the top of the league in hits, can play in all situations. He is the perfect 3rd line player and costs a million less than boyes. HE is the type of player you acquire when you are trying to build a championship roster.

 

Correct.

 

Dustin Brown would be a perfect addition to this team, depending on the cost. Frankly, it baffles me why LA would move him aside from salary cap--- although his contract is generally pretty attractive. Reports have circulated they're interested in both Pominville and Stafford. It seems to me that something like Stafford and Gragnani plus a pick is actually the right price for a change.

 

There is NFW that the Sabres are going to get anything respectable, let alone a good NHL player, for Stafford and MAG.

[Calvin]

dreger at tsn opines as follows this morning: A quality young d-man and solid secondary scorer part of what might land Brown. He's worth it.

 

(twitter seems to have lost its function where you can isolate a tweet on a single page? i need some help from someone born in the 80s or 90s.)

 

Click 'Open' then 'Details' > https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/status/173045056746434560

[Robviously]

As per Bob McKenzie at TSN on twitter- BOS, BUF, EDM, NJD, NYR, PHI, TOR, VAN amongst teams with high levels of interest in DUSTIN BROWN of LA. :w00t:

Which means Darcy will be able to say he was one of the seven GM's who *almost* traded for Dustin Brown! Awesome!

[waldo]

As per Bob McKenzie at TSN on twitter- BOS, BUF, EDM, NJD, NYR, PHI, TOR, VAN amongst teams with high levels of interest in DUSTIN BROWN of LA. :w00t:

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NHL&id=1651&line=155522&spln=1

[Robviously]

There is NFW that the Sabres are going to get anything respectable, let alone a good NHL player, for Stafford and MAG.

Stafford is still a guy who scored 31 goals in 60 games last season. He's having an awful year and he's in desperate need of a change of scenery, but he would definitely have value to a lot of teams. Not "Dustin Brown value", but value.

[Weave]

Secondary scoring forward and young D man? I think NFreeman is correct that they'll ask for Ennis. Probably Sekera too. I wonder if Kassian and Sekera is an acceptable swap for them? I assume we'd have to add a pick too. If we could get them to give up Brown for a package including Stafford it should have been completed yesterday because that one is a no-brainer.

[Eleven]

For some reason, after sleeping on it, I am less excited about the idea of Dustin Brown. Looked at his numbers and all that, and I don't really care whether LA saw fit to sew a C on his sweater. The "would I trade Pommer for Brown" question is answered with a "no," to me. Roy? Maybe, but then we revisit the no depth at center problem (which can be fixed during the summer, perhaps; I'm not considering a Brown trade for a playoff run in 2012).

[Punch]

There is NFW that the Sabres are going to get anything respectable, let alone a good NHL player, for Stafford and MAG.

 

I don't think it's an equal trade, however, the Kings are reportedly interested in Stafford specifically and also a young offensive D-man. Ennis would make sense as a secondary scoring winger for the same reason that Sekera wouldn't: salary. I wouldn't begin to dream that Stafford could bring back someone like Brown but for the reports from reputeable sources of the Kings interest and willingness to move Brown.

[thewookie1]

Stafford & Sekera/Leopold + 2nd rounder for Penner & Brown

 

Boyes would need to be traded for a pick beforehand

 

We take the cap hit of Penner for the LAK and they get a potential 40 goal scorer and a puck moving defensemen

 

We get Dustin Brown for a year + (extend contract while he's having ok season) and Dustin Penner who I would negotiate his contract down to a more managable rate and resign. He's been injured so we could get him for a steal in contract wages. Plus he before his injuries was 20+ goal scorer and he has won a cup.

[nfreeman]

Stafford is still a guy who scored 31 goals in 60 games last season. He's having an awful year and he's in desperate need of a change of scenery, but he would definitely have value to a lot of teams. Not "Dustin Brown value", but value.

 

He's had 1 good year and 1 decent year in 5.5 years in the NHL. His 1 good year was his contract year, following which he immediately fell off the table. Now he's got a pretty sizable contract for 3 more years. He's an overpaid underachiever. That is an unattractive package. I could see getting a 2nd-round pick for him, or perhaps another guy who needs a change of scenery, but there is NFW a good, reliable NHL player is coming back for him.

 

Secondary scoring forward and young D man? I think NFreeman is correct that they'll ask for Ennis. Probably Sekera too. I wonder if Kassian and Sekera is an acceptable swap for them? I assume we'd have to add a pick too. If we could get them to give up Brown for a package including Stafford it should have been completed yesterday because that one is a no-brainer.

 

That's an interesting idea. I'd hate to give up on Kassian this early in his career though and I suspect Darcy would too.

 

For some reason, after sleeping on it, I am less excited about the idea of Dustin Brown. Looked at his numbers and all that, and I don't really care whether LA saw fit to sew a C on his sweater. The "would I trade Pommer for Brown" question is answered with a "no," to me. Roy? Maybe, but then we revisit the no depth at center problem (which can be fixed during the summer, perhaps; I'm not considering a Brown trade for a playoff run in 2012).

 

You're only a "maybe" on giving up Roy for Brown? Dear me.

 

NB that not getting a center in return for Roy doesn't preclude getting a center in another deal.

 

Roy must go.

[That Aud Smell]

Click 'Open' then 'Details' > https://twitter.com/...045056746434560

 

many thanks.

 

Stafford is still a guy who scored 31 goals in 60 games last season. He's having an awful year and he's in desperate need of a change of scenery another contract year, but he would definitely have value to a lot of teams. Not "Dustin Brown value", but value.

 

;)

[Weave]

He's had 1 good year and 1 decent year in 5.5 years in the NHL. His 1 good year was his contract year, following which he immediately fell off the table. Now he's got a pretty sizable contract for 3 more years. He's an overpaid underachiever. That is an unattractive package. I could see getting a 2nd-round pick for him, or perhaps another guy who needs a change of scenery, but there is NFW a good, reliable NHL player is coming back for him.

 

 

 

That's an interesting idea. I'd hate to give up on Kassian this early in his career though and I suspect Darcy would too.

 

 

 

You're only a "maybe" on giving up Roy for Brown? Dear me.

 

NB that not getting a center in return for Roy doesn't preclude getting a center in another deal.

 

Roy must go.

 

LA just picked up Carter. Maybe Stoll comes back as a rental and then we work on resigning?

[Robviously]

He's had 1 good year and 1 decent year in 5.5 years in the NHL. His 1 good year was his contract year, following which he immediately fell off the table. Now he's got a pretty sizable contract for 3 more years. He's an overpaid underachiever. That is an unattractive package. I could see getting a 2nd-round pick for him, or perhaps another guy who needs a change of scenery, but there is NFW a good, reliable NHL player is coming back for him.

We're on the same page. I would just really value a 2nd round pick.

 

 

 

That's an interesting idea. I'd hate to give up on Kassian this early in his career though and I suspect Darcy would too.

Darcy hates giving up on anyone he drafted.

[korab rules]

Stafford & Sekera/Leopold + 2nd rounder for Penner & Brown

 

Boyes would need to be traded for a pick beforehand

 

We take the cap hit of Penner for the LAK and they get a potential 40 goal scorer and a puck moving defensemen

 

We get Dustin Brown for a year + (extend contract while he's having ok season) and Dustin Penner who I would negotiate his contract down to a more managable rate and resign. He's been injured so we could get him for a steal in contract wages. Plus he before his injuries was 20+ goal scorer and he has won a cup.

You make a good point - we may need to take back penner - but moving Boyes will be tough. He is hurt right now and the deadline is 4 days away. He had better play tomorrow or we will have him for the rest of the season.

 

As far as re-signing Penner? There is NFW that happens. He is cap relief for LA, and if we can't unload Boyes he could very well end up in Rochester to finish the season.

 

And Dustin Brown is signed for 2 more years at a 3.175 cap hit - you can't renegotiate NHL contracts mid stream.

[Weave]

You make a good point - we may need to take back penner - but moving Boyes will be tough. He is hurt right now and the deadline is 4 days away. He had better play tomorrow or we will have him for the rest of the season.

 

As far as re-signing Penner? There is NFW that happens. He is cap relief for LA, and if we can't unload Boyes he could very well end up in Rochester to finish the season

 

I'd do that in a heart beat. Yep. I'd spend TPegs money that way without thinking twice. :D

[shrader]

Stafford is still a guy who scored 31 goals in 60 games last season. He's having an awful year and he's in desperate need of a change of scenery, but he would definitely have value to a lot of teams. Not "Dustin Brown value", but value.

 

I'm glad you said this because people around here overlook it far too often. Just take a look at Nathan Horton last year in Boston. He was a guy who was getting a lot of the same complaints that are made here about Stafford. He had all the talent to be a big goal scorer but was always viewed as lazy. All of a sudden he gets to Boston and becomes a key part in getting them to where they were.

 

Drew is clearly a lesser player, but that doesn't rule out the fact that he could become far more motivated if he falls into the right situation.

[korab rules]

I'm glad you said this because people around here overlook it far too often. Just take a look at Nathan Horton last year in Boston. He was a guy who was getting a lot of the same complaints that are made here about Stafford. He had all the talent to be a big goal scorer but was always viewed as lazy. All of a sudden he gets to Boston and becomes a key part in getting them to where they were.

 

Drew is clearly a lesser player, but that doesn't rule out the fact that he could become far more motivated if he falls into the right situation.

Drew is the SAME player as Horton - in fact Drew may be more skilled - he just doesn't give a sh!t.

[waldo]

For some reason, after sleeping on it, I am less excited about the idea of Dustin Brown. Looked at his numbers and all that, and I don't really care whether LA saw fit to sew a C on his sweater. The "would I trade Pommer for Brown" question is answered with a "no," to me. Roy? Maybe, but then we revisit the no depth at center problem (which can be fixed during the summer, perhaps; I'm not considering a Brown trade for a playoff run in 2012).

 

i agree