shrader Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Canadiens acquire B. Geoffrion, R. Slaney, and 2nd round draft pick in 2012 from NSH for Hall Gill and a conditional 2013 5th round pick. Looks like Montreal is sellin'. That's a pretty solid return for Gill. I'd entertain offers for Regehr if that's the going rate. We could do really well since he's a far superior player.
spndnchz Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Posted February 17, 2012 That's a pretty solid return for Gill. I'd entertain offers for Regehr if that's the going rate. We could do really well since he's a far superior player. Compare that to what Regier paid to get Regehr and DR looks pretty smart. (Still want him gone)
shrader Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Compare that to what Regier paid to get Regehr and DR looks pretty smart. (Still want him gone) Gill's in the last year of his deal too. I can't believe it cost anything more than a pick.
wonderbread Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 That's a pretty solid return for Gill. I'd entertain offers for Regehr if that's the going rate. We could do really well since he's a far superior player. With these type of picks being offered for marginal talent, Darcy is sure to wait even longer to "let the market dictate itself".
TrueBlueGED Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Yet another trade takes place while Darcy....I was going to say does nothing, but he very well may be playing Angry Birds in his office, which isn't exactly nothing. The selling has begun, the market has been set for guys like Gaustad and Leopold, so Darcy better actually do something now. He can't possibly be clinging to the idea they can make a run at the 8 seed.....right?
Redemption City Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Geoffrion in Montreal...that's a bit of added expectations for him. Darcy's probably doing his taxes.
sabre4life Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Is anyone else banging their head against a solid surface.... saying "Why us... Why can't this incumbent see this team is a mess"???? This has gone on for far too long...
Gramps Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Yet another trade takes place while Darcy....I was going to say does nothing, but he very well may be playing Angry Birds in his office, which isn't exactly nothing. The selling has begun, the market has been set for guys like Gaustad and Leopold, so Darcy better actually do something now. He can't possibly be clinging to the idea they can make a run at the 8 seed.....right? Of course he is ... probably looking at sportsclubstats.com and thinking "if we go 17-5-3 over the last 25, we have a 66% chance at the 8th spot". The reality is more like no GMs will deal with him as Darcy overvalues his players ...
LabattBlue Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 ...so Darcy better actually do something now. He can't possibly be clinging to the idea they can make a run at the 8 seed.....right? How long have you been following the Sabres? :rolleyes:
LTS Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Yet another trade takes place while Darcy....I was going to say does nothing, but he very well may be playing Angry Birds in his office, which isn't exactly nothing. The selling has begun, the market has been set for guys like Gaustad and Leopold, so Darcy better actually do something now. He can't possibly be clinging to the idea they can make a run at the 8 seed.....right? Here we go again. So Gill was traded. A defensive defenseman. The Sabres don't have that to give up and they don't need Geoffrion or Slaney right? So, this is not a trade I would expect the Sabres to be missing out on. Leopold and Gaustad are not in that conversation. Interesting move by the Preds though. Now they have 3 UFA defensemen and 2 RFA? Makes you wonder who else they are going to look for to make a run this year. The last ditch effort before losing one of their top D to free agency. There was some discussion with Pete Weber on NHL network that Radulov could end up back with the Preds before the playoffs. They've got cap space right now to take on almost anyone but quite a bit to sign for next year.
TrueBlueGED Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 Here we go again. So Gill was traded. A defensive defenseman. The Sabres don't have that to give up and they don't need Geoffrion or Slaney right? So, this is not a trade I would expect the Sabres to be missing out on. Leopold and Gaustad are not in that conversation. I certainly didn't intend to make direct comparisons between the players, only their market value. Gaustad and Moore are certainly similar and Moore got moved for basically a 2nd. Leopold plays a different game than Grossman or Gill, but there's still a precedent in the market now. Veteran defenseman who can help a team goes for a 2nd+. Obviously a team looking for Gill won't look to Leopold (at least not for the same reason), but they should have similar value on the market. It doesn't take identical players to set the market.
TheChimp Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 With these type of picks being offered for marginal talent, Darcy is sure to wait even longer to "let the market dictate itself". Darcy should be ready to rock and roll by March 1st. Everyone, get excited!!
spndnchz Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Posted February 17, 2012 Darcy finally saying today that they are seller. Not specifically but roundabout way. The next five games seeing who is part of our Stanley Cup team IMO. It'll be interesting to see who he thinks fill that role. That is why I watch. Like sand in the hourglass....
Samson's Flow Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Darcy finally saying today that they are seller. Not specifically but roundabout way. The next five games seeing who is part of our Stanley Cup team IMO. It'll be interesting to see who he thinks fill that role. That is why I watch. Like sand in the hourglass.... Seven unanswered goals will do that. Even DR can convince himself that this team should be a buyer after that showing. Let's see how far the "sellers" label will go. I have my doubts...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Darcy finally saying today that they are seller. Not specifically but roundabout way. The next five games seeing who is part of our Stanley Cup team IMO. It'll be interesting to see who he thinks fill that role. That is why I watch. Like sand in the hourglass.... Yes...the Days of Our Lives.......and Darcy Regier has been in charge 5,363 of those days.......in a row.........
IKnowPhysics Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Canadiens acquire B. Geoffrion, R. Slaney, and 2nd round draft pick in 2012 from NSH for Hall Gill and a conditional 2013 5th round pick. Ugh, I think Nashville got fleeced. Gave up a 2nd round pick AND Hobey Baker Award winner Geoffrion (also a 2nd round pick, who's now Montreal's top LW prospect) AND Slaney (admittedly little value) for the rental of a 36 year old defensive defenseman and maybe a 5th rounder.
TheChimp Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Darcy finally saying today that they are seller. Not specifically but roundabout way. The next five games seeing who is part of our Stanley Cup team IMO. It'll be interesting to see who he thinks fill that role. That is why I watch. Like sand in the hourglass.... As evidenced by his past decisions, I think we can all expect brilliant choices in this area. Bye bye Gerbe and Pominville, hello Captan Drew Stafford.
Samson's Flow Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Ugh, I think Nashville got fleeced. Gave up a 2nd round pick AND Hobey Baker Award winner Geoffrion (also a 2nd round pick, who's now Montreal's top LW prospect) AND Slaney (admittedly little value) for the rental of a 36 year old defensive defenseman and maybe a 5th rounder. Which is why everyone is clamoring for Darcy to start doing something. If that's what Montreal got for Gill, then there is certainly value to be had for Leopold or even Regher. Agree on the fleecing btw :)
Robviously Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Darcy finally saying today that they are seller. Not specifically but roundabout way. The next five games seeing who is part of our Stanley Cup team IMO. It'll be interesting to see who he thinks fill that role. That is why I watch. Like sand in the hourglass.... Brainless.
deluca67 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 I hope Regier has been given strict orders. Simply create cap room for next season. Do not take any NHL salaries in return in any deal he makes. Picks and prospects only in return.
Lanny Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 I certainly didn't intend to make direct comparisons between the players, only their market value. Gaustad and Moore are certainly similar and Moore got moved for basically a 2nd. Leopold plays a different game than Grossman or Gill, but there's still a precedent in the market now. Veteran defenseman who can help a team goes for a 2nd+. Obviously a team looking for Gill won't look to Leopold (at least not for the same reason), but they should have similar value on the market. It doesn't take identical players to set the market. I would think Leopold would have more value since he's not a UFA at the end of the year like Gill or Grossman. Though may be less teams looking for someone who'd be on their cap for next year also.
inkman Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Bite me. We've already played this game. Do you have a new safe word?
LabattBlue Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 I hope Regier has been given strict orders. Simply create cap room for next season. Do not take any NHL salaries in return in any deal he makes. Picks and prospects only in return. You can't even trust that idiot Regier in terms of picks and prospects. He would bring in 10 more soft mobile offensive defensemen.
kishoph Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 I have a feeling that the only player that we are going to see moved is Tyler Ennis, Ennis is not a Lindy favorite and I think that he's the only one that they (Darcy and Lindy) are willing to get rid of that will bring something in return. Who is going to be willing to give us anything for Roy or Stafford ? I'd hate to see Ennis go, especially for another Dominic Moore.
JWell Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 I have a feeling that the only player that we are going to see moved is Tyler Ennis, Ennis is not a Lindy favorite and I think that he's the only one that they (Darcy and Lindy) are willing to get rid of that will bring something in return. Who is going to be willing to give us anything for Roy or Stafford ? I'd hate to see Ennis go, especially for another Dominic Moore. Totally disagree. The kid is young and i think they realize they have a good player in Ennis to build around.
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