Things that are AWESOME...

[WildCard]

Well TIL. At the risk of making you hate Aerosmith (more than you already should) you should take a look at Steven Tyler's past.

[qwksndmonster]

More than you already should hahahahaha

[WildCard]

More than you already should hahahahaha

I knew you had good taste ;)

 

They have one good song, Mama Kin. It's a favorite of mine to play and bet people they can't name the artist, because it sounds nothing like the Aerosmith is known for. I love that song

Edited May 12, 2016 by WildCard

[TrueBlueGED]

Semester basically over. Just waiting on exam results to curve, then input grades, and that's that. ~20 minutes of work.

[WildCard]

Semester basically over. Just waiting on exam results to curve, then input grades, and that's that. ~20 minutes of work.

How was it grading the finals?

[TrueBlueGED]

How was it grading the finals?

Multiple guess...machines baby!

[WildCard]

Multiple guess...machines baby!

Nice :lol:

 

I always wondered, what do professors do on break? Research?

[TrueBlueGED]

Nice :lol:

 

I always wondered, what do professors do on break? Research?

Yes. And a summer course or two.

[WildCard]

Yes. And a summer course or two.

I mean, you could always just drink like the rest of us delinquents :beer:

 

On that thought, has anyone had Tin Cup whiskey? I think I might get some for my graduation ceremony this weekend

[Drunkard]

Multiple guess...machines baby!

 

I'm surprised you even bothered to put them through the machine. Wouldn't it be easier to give everybody A's? The whole world is above average after all, so everyone deserves straight A's and gold stars.

[Taro T]

One Thing Leads to Another?

 

 

Reach the Beach!

 

...

 

 

That one's good.

 

Shuttered Room was/is better.

[nfreeman]

I used to really like Woody Allen. His movies resonated with me. But then I learned about how much of a disgusting human being he is and I can never look at a movie like Manhattan the same way again. I don't trust this man who sexually assaulted his daughter and married his other daughter with depicting women in his films.

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/my-father-woody-allen-danger-892572?utm_source=twitter

 

Here's an excellent article by his son, Ronan. It's about the pain his sister has to go through every single time stars line up to work with their father. It's also about how incredibly unfair media coverage is when it comes to a powerful man being accused by a woman. He also makes a clear point about the dangers of silence in main stream media.

 

I was a Woody Allen fan for years before I heard anything bad about the man.

 

Woody Allen has plenty of issues, but it's highly likely that he did not assault his daughter, and that the accusations were fabricated by his PO'd ex, Mia Farrow, in the middle of a nasty custody battle.  He was cleared by police, by a judge and by professional sexual assault therapists from Yale who investigated the accusations.

 

Frankly, although the episode has been spun by PC media types as "powerful man gets away with assault on defenseless female," it is a much better example of "false sexual assault allegations given undue credibility by PC medial who automatically believe all such allegations."

 

Here is a article with a good factual breakdown:  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

 

 

Mia’s allegations of molestation automatically triggered a criminal investigation by the Connecticut State Police, who brought in an investigative team from the Yale-New Haven Hospital, whose six-month long inquiry (which included medical examinations) concluded that Dylan had not been molested.

 

A New York Times article dated March 26, 1993, quotes from Mia’s own testimony, during which she recalled taking the child to a doctor on the same day as the alleged incident. Farrow recalled, “I think (Dylan) said (Allen) touched her, but when asked where, she just looked around and went like this,” at which point Mia patted her shoulders. Farrow recalls she took Dylan to another doctor, four days later. On the stand, Allen’s attorney asked Mia about the second doctor’s findings: “There was no evidence of injury to the or vaginal area, is that correct?” Farrow answered, “Yes.”

 

In the midst of the proceedings, on February 2, 1993, a revealing article appeared in the Los Angeles Times, headlined: “Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges,” in which former nanny Monica Thompson (whose salary was paid by Allen, since three of the brood were also his) swore in a deposition to Allen’s attorneys that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position.

Thompson further revealed a conversation she had with Kristie Groteke, another nanny. “She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear.”

 

 

[qwksndmonster]

That article is by somebody in Woody Allen's pocket, even though he wants to say "ohh and people can say I'm in his pocket, whatever." I specifically liked the "Mia Farrow is a slut." Section of the article.

 

 

As somebody who thinks it's completely creepy and weird for Woody Allen to marry Soon-Yi, all of these points:

 

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2:  Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3:  Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4:  Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5:  Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6:  Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7:  Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

 

Don't mean a god damned thing to me.  If you're dating someone's mother and have adopted a couple of their siblings that's a father-daughter dynamic no matter what.  These technicalities don't change anything.

 

 

 

Frankly, although the episode has been spun by PC media types as "powerful man gets away with assault on defenseless female," it is a much better example of "false sexual assault allegations given undue credibility by PC medial who automatically believe all such allegations."

 

 

 

You either see the world through a feminist lens or you don't.   "PC media types" are not a huge machine that spins up to slander poor innocent victims of false accusation, as you always state whenever this comes up.

Edited May 12, 2016 by qwksndmonster

[nfreeman]

That article is by somebody in Woody Allen's pocket, even though he wants to say "ohh and people can say I'm in his pocket, whatever." I specifically liked the "Mia Farrow is a slut." Section of the article.

 

 

As somebody who thinks it's completely creepy and weird for Woody Allen to marry Soon-Yi, all of these points:

 

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2:  Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3:  Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4:  Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5:  Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6:  Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7:  Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

 

Don't mean a god damned thing to me.  If you're dating someone's mother and have adopted a couple of their siblings that's a father-daughter dynamic no matter what.  These technicalities don't change anything.

 

 

You either see the world through a feminist lens or you don't.   "PC media types" are not a huge machine that spins up to slander poor innocent victims of false accusation, as you always state whenever this comes up.

 

Well, I did say that Woody Allen has plenty of issues, and the Soon-Yi relationship is one of them.  But that does not mean the accusations of child molesting are true.  It just doesn't.  That accusation needs to be evaluated on its own merit, which is the bulk of the article I posted (and which you didn't respond to).

 

As for PC media types -- I didn't say there was a conspiracy to smear him.  The point is that there are a ton of media publications that skew liberal/PC -- and the liberal/PC stance on sexual assault allegations is generally to believe the accuser and to disregard the notion of due process for the accused.  Do you disagree with that?

[dudacek]

The blessing of this era of communication: we know longer have to depend on a small handful sources for our information.
Its curse: we no longer have an authoritative voice the unvested can trust. Everyone gets to pick the expert that best feeds their prejudice.

Edited May 13, 2016 by dudacek

[MODO Hockey]

These little nuggets. That is all. Already a month and a half. Yeesh

 

That is just plain beautiful, our future right there. God bless!

My son and his family return today .... After six years in the United States Navy, oceans, ports and deployments, he is now a veteran whose tours of duty have ended. USNR and the beginning of the rest of his life. Love, respect and gratitude.

 

He and his arrive at my house, today ... transition central for a week or so.

 

<3

[Ogre]

I was going to post this in the complaint thread but the person I'm posting about was awesome so I'm doing it here. My favorite old timer ironworker passed away yesterday. Mid 60's. He was a marine that served 3 tours in Vietnam. The last one was voluntary. 30+ years as an ironworker. My mentor and good friend. The 20 years that separated us made us brothers no less. He was fearless and kind. Dedicated and loose. We partied our balls off. As I watch the setting sun I'm reminded of a story that sums up for me the sort of man he was when I knew him.

I had heard of this man from India that claimed to have not eaten a bite of food in 11 years. He existed on tea and by staring at the rising sun everyday. I had told Doug about this guy when we were partying one night. The next morning at work he and I(we worked as partners a lot) got up on the two story structure we were erecting. We both lower our dark glasses and stare at the rising sun. The crane has a hunk of iron waiting overhead for us to connect but we are silent and staring. The foreman is loosing his mind screaming at us and Doug looks down at him and shouts back "shut the F up! Can't you see we're getting our nourishment!" God bless you, Dougie. Heaven has gained a hero.

[qwksndmonster]

Well, I did say that Woody Allen has plenty of issues, and the Soon-Yi relationship is one of them.  But that does not mean the accusations of child molesting are true.  It just doesn't.  That accusation needs to be evaluated on its own merit, which is the bulk of the article I posted (and which you didn't respond to).

 

As for PC media types -- I didn't say there was a conspiracy to smear him.  The point is that there are a ton of media publications that skew liberal/PC -- and the liberal/PC stance on sexual assault allegations is generally to believe the accuser and to disregard the notion of due process for the accused.  Do you disagree with that?

The article you posted was a character assassination of Mia Farrow by a film-maker who loves Woody Allen and his work. It was not a factual breakdown whatsoever.  He starts off by making his relationship with Woody Allen clear (despite claiming that he's not in Allen's pocket), and saying that misinformation is being spread all over the internet.  Then he fires into his defense of Allen with the Soon-Yi apologist thing, which is shortly followed by an amended history of Mia Farrow's sex history.  Still no facts.   When he finally does dig into the so called "facts" he doesn't follow through on any of his ideas.  He introduces something that could possibly cast Allen in a negative light, the investigative team destroying their notes before they handed them in to the judge, and then says I don't know anything about this, it could be important but whatever.  Then goes on to offer more excuses for Allen, like how one of the nanny's at their home cast doubt on the story of the molestation.  He omits that several other nannies expressed their concern and suspicions of Woody Allen.

 

Very classy that he didn't assassinate the 7 year old girl victim's character and instead decided to aim at her mother. Why would I ever trust this man to give a level headed, factual defense of Woody Allen? Especially when he pleads ignorance when going over the "facts"?

 

 

Dylan Farrow released this open letter to the internet a few days after Robert Weide wrote his article. http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/

 

Then the editor at thedailybeast tried to save face by giving Weide a chance to change what he said and he, moronically, stood by it.  Here's the editors note: Editor's note: Subsequent to publishing the above piece, an open letter from Dylan Farrow appeared in Nicholas Kristof’s column in the New York Times. When asked for comment, Weide sent this reply: “This continues to be a very sad story from every angle. I can only say I found nothing in Dylan’s letter that hasn’t previously been alleged in the two previous Vanity Fair articles, which I’ve already addressed. I also see nothing that contradicts what I wrote for The Daily Beast. If I wrote it today, it would be exactly the same piece. As I’ve already stated in my article, I hope she finds closure, and I sincerely wish her all the happiness and peace she’s been looking for."

 

Woody Allen exploiting the power that he had in his relationship with Soon-Yi as a young woman characterizes him very well.  When I say that "you either see the world through a feminist lens or you don't," I was referring to the fact that you and I are never going to see eye to eye on this.  The fact that Woody Allen was found innocent holds no water for me.  He was found innocent in a society that has time after time failed the victims and survivors of sexual assault. You can't say that we have to judge every case based on its own merit because the deck is already stacked against women.  Even if, by some weird miracle, Woody Allen is totally innocent, and he's had to deal with this BS from all these people falsely believing him to be a pedophile, then whatever.  One rich guy having a slightly harder life doesn't concern me in the context of countless survivors of sexual assault being ignored.

 

 

 

As for PC media types -- I didn't say there was a conspiracy to smear him.  The point is that there are a ton of media publications that skew liberal/PC -- and the liberal/PC stance on sexual assault allegations is generally to believe the accuser and to disregard the notion of due process for the accused.  Do you disagree with that?

There are just as many people on the internet that skew the other way and will immediately disregard anything that a woman has to say.  Just bringing up the PC media types (the cancer of American Liberalism) and ignoring the other, just as cancerous, side misrepresents the issue.

 

There are more people ready to believe Woody Allen than Dylan Farrow and her mother and her brother.  There are even more people that have never even heard of these accusations in the first place, and that's part of the problem.

[darksabre]

Would you guys take this Woody Allen crap somewhere else?

I was going to post this in the complaint thread but the person I'm posting about was awesome so I'm doing it here. My favorite old timer ironworker passed away yesterday. Mid 60's. He was a marine that served 3 tours in Vietnam. The last one was voluntary. 30+ years as an ironworker. My mentor and good friend. The 20 years that separated us made us brothers no less. He was fearless and kind. Dedicated and loose. We partied our balls off. As I watch the setting sun I'm reminded of a story that sums up for me the sort of man he was when I knew him.

I had heard of this man from India that claimed to have not eaten a bite of food in 11 years. He existed on tea and by staring at the rising sun everyday. I had told Doug about this guy when we were partying one night. The next morning at work he and I(we worked as partners a lot) got up on the two story structure we were erecting. We both lower our dark glasses and stare at the rising sun. The crane has a hunk of iron waiting overhead for us to connect but we are silent and staring. The foreman is loosing his mind screaming at us and Doug looks down at him and shouts back "shut the F up! Can't you see we're getting our nourishment!" God bless you, Dougie. Heaven has gained a hero.

Love stories like this. Reminds me of a co-worker of mine from my manufacturing days, also named Doug. He actually just called me out of the blue last week. The guy is just a character, no one like him. I don't miss the work, but I miss the people sometimes. Everyone's a ball buster.

[qwksndmonster]

Would you guys take this Woody Allen crap somewhere else?

 

Because d4rk, internet king, has never once had an extended off topic discussion on Sabrespace.

[darksabre]

Because d4rk, internet king, has never once had an extended off topic discussion on Sabrespace.

It's the awesome thread, not the "obviously Freeman is going to defend anyone accused of sex crimes" thread. I'd ask a mod to move the discussion but ya know...

[SwampD]

It's the awesome thread, not the "obviously Freeman is going to defend anyone accused of sex crimes" thread. I'd ask a mod to move the discussion but ya know...

I actually thought that the ridiculousness of their discussion was quite awesome.

[darksabre]

I actually thought that the ridiculousness of their discussion was quite awesome.

That's one way of looking at it.

[qwksndmonster]

It's the awesome thread, not the "obviously Freeman is going to defend anyone accused of sex crimes" thread. I'd ask a mod to move the discussion but ya know...

Take your policing to the Gwen thread.

[darksabre]

Take your policing to the Gwen thread.

Puh-leeeze.