Things that are AWESOME...

[shrader]

Agreed. Three of the hottest women to boot.

 

And Al Bundy!

[SwampD]

Good Lord. If Modern Family is what passes as the best show on TV then my last shred of hope for humanity just gave up the ghost.

[That Aud Smell]

Modern Family is solid entertainment, and belongs in that tradition of shows like Cosby, Friends, Cheers, Family Ties, and such. All of those shows are, more or less, about family dynamics (Friends and Cheers put a different spin on it -- but those casts were essentially family units).

 

M.F. does not belong in that tier of shows that people obsess(ed) over and which receive(d) critical acclaim -- Lost, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. Which maybe is the point being made above about "Oh, Lordy, is M.F. what now passes as great TV."

[SwampD]

Modern Family is solid entertainment, and belongs in that tradition of shows like Cosby, Friends, Cheers, Family Ties, and such. All of those shows are, more or less, about family dynamics (Friends and Cheers put a different spin on it -- but those casts were essentially family units).

 

M.F. does not belong in that tier of shows that people obsess(ed) over and which receive(d) critical acclaim -- Lost, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. Which maybe is the point being made above about "Oh, Lordy, is M.F. what now passes as great TV."

I love Hollywood, where your gay guys are just a little gayer, and you're not Hispanic unless you make Charo look like a shrinking violet.

[Stoner]

Modern Family is solid entertainment, and belongs in that tradition of shows like Cosby, Friends, Cheers, Family Ties, and such. All of those shows are, more or less, about family dynamics (Friends and Cheers put a different spin on it -- but those casts were essentially family units).

 

M.F. does not belong in that tier of shows that people obsess(ed) over and which receive(d) critical acclaim -- Lost, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. Which maybe is the point being made above about "Oh, Lordy, is M.F. what now passes as great TV."

 

Perhaps you have a different definition of critical acclaim, but:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Modern_Family

 

Agreed. Three of the hottest women to boot.

 

I'm only through most of Season Two, so I'm not sure who the third hot woman is. Julie Bowen is hotter than a firecracker, yes.

[shrader]

Modern Family is solid entertainment, and belongs in that tradition of shows like Cosby, Friends, Cheers, Family Ties, and such. All of those shows are, more or less, about family dynamics (Friends and Cheers put a different spin on it -- but those casts were essentially family units).

 

M.F. does not belong in that tier of shows that people obsess(ed) over and which receive(d) critical acclaim -- Lost, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, etc. Which maybe is the point being made above about "Oh, Lordy, is M.F. what now passes as great TV."

 

There's a clear distinction in the descriptions you just laid out. It looks like in your opinion, only one type of TV show deserves awards and the label of "great TV".

 

Paragraph one: Sitcoms

Paragraph two: Drama

[josie]

I love Hollywood, where your gay guys are just a little gayer, and you're not Hispanic unless you make Charo look like a shrinking violet.

:w00t:

I laughed and then I sobbed a little.

 

I haven't watched TV in years. Besides Netflix and Hell on Wheels.

[shrader]

I love Hollywood, where your gay guys are just a little gayer, and you're not Hispanic unless you make Charo look like a shrinking violet.

 

Every single character on the show is a caricature. That's what makes it tv.

[LastPommerFan]

Every single character on the show is a caricature. That's what makes it tv.

 

Not every single character is a caricature. The relationship between Phil and Claire is a frighteningly accurate representation of my marriage. To the point where, when they win Emmy's, our friends and family text to congratulate us.

[Stoner]

Every single character on the show is a caricature. That's what makes it tv.

 

Well said.

[SwampD]

Every single character on the show is a caricature. That's what makes it tv.

That's why I don't watch.

[inkman]

 

 

Perhaps you have a different definition of critical acclaim, but:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Modern_Family

 

 

 

I'm only through most of Season Two, so I'm not sure who the third hot woman is. Julie Bowen is hotter than a firecracker, yes.

Well Sara Hyland was 19 during that season and is a ripe ol 23 now.

 

 

That's why I don't watch.

As far as good TV

 

Breaking Bad

The Wire

Dexter (the early seasons)

Shameless

Walking Dead

Hell on Wheels

Boardwalk Empire

Mad Men

Justified

 

And of course, Family Fued

[That Aud Smell]

Perhaps you have a different definition of critical acclaim, but:

 

http://en.wikipedia....y_Modern_Family

 

I probably do, for these purposes. What does the link show? That they won a bunch of Emmys? Meh.

 

There's a clear distinction in the descriptions you just laid out. It looks like in your opinion, only one type of TV show deserves awards and the label of "great TV".

 

Paragraph one: Sitcoms

Paragraph two: Drama

 

Fair enough. I don't watch enough TV nowadays to provide a more exhaustive list (in fact, I have never watched the Sopranos or Breaking Bad), but that's not the point I was trying to make.

 

M.F. is good standard TV fare. Those other shows are part of some new era of televised entertainment -- most of them are dramas, sure. But there are those FX shows that are comedies (or comedic in nature) that qualify for this "other" segment of shows -- Louie, IASIP, etc.

 

It's an eyeball/smell test, really. M.F. belongs in the same bucket as those other shows I mentioned. This other class of shows -- which a lot of people say represents the future of TV -- does not.

 

Also occurs to me that Arrested Development probably belongs in this other class/tier of shows.

[darksabre]

But what about Trailer Park Boys?

[Eleven]

But what about Trailer Park Boys?

 

Hands down, and shut the ###### up.

[Stoner]

Well Sara Hyland was 19 during that season and is a ripe ol 23 now.

 

OK, so it's not wrong to ogle someone who's playing a 15-year-old?

[That Aud Smell]

OK, so it's not wrong to ogle someone who's playing a 15-year-old?

 

fair question.

 

at the risk of disclosing too much: i've on occasion wondered how far back an individual is permitted to go in accessing -- um, *ahem* -- fond memories he (or she) may have of past encounters with the fairer sex (however that may be so defined). couched in terms more crass: should a spank bank have an auto-delete function based on a particular file's origination date?

 

say a hypothetical 41 year-old guy (truly hypothetical -- as in, he DOES NOT EXIST) had a literal roll in the hay with a charming rural girl when both were 17 years old. still fair game for the guy? (i'm excluding the girl from the question -- the chances that she would "reflect on it" as an adult are negligible, IMO.)

 

also: :bag:

Edited September 17, 2014 by That Aud Smell

[spndnchz]

fair question.

 

at the risk of disclosing too much: i've on occasion wondered how far back an individual is permitted to go in accessing -- um, *ahem* -- fond memories he (or she) may have of past encounters with the fairer sex (however that may be so defined). couched in terms more crass: should a spank bank have an auto-delete function based on a particular file's origination date?

 

say a hypothetical 41 year-old guy (truly hypothetical -- as in, he DOES NOT EXIST) had a literal roll in the hay with a charming rural girl when both were 17 years old. still fair game for the guy? (i'm excluding the girl from the question -- the chances that she would "reflect on it" as an adult are negligible, IMO.)

 

also: :bag:

 

Under 18? check

Within 2 years of each other in age? check

Consensual? check

No issues. Check

[MattPie]

Under 18? check

Within 2 years of each other in age? check

Consensual? check

No issues. Check

 

The more interesting question with all the new picture taking devices, how does that work with photos? I know there's some issues with this is various places:

* 16-year-old guy takes picture of his wang

* Sends it to his 16-year-old girlfriend

* I think right now everyone is good with respects to the law

* As soon as those two turn 18 and haven't deleted (or destroyed if we're talking pre-digital) the picture, is it child porn?

* Is it child porn for the girl to have it regardless of age? How about the guy, is he producing CP?

 

(Legal disclaimer: I have no pictures of anyone sans clothing that's under 18)

Edited September 17, 2014 by MattPie

[WildCard]

Well Sara Hyland was 19 during that season and is a ripe ol 23 now.

 

 

As far as good TV

 

Breaking Bad

The Wire

Dexter (the early seasons)

Shameless

Walking Dead

Hell on Wheels

Boardwalk Empire

Mad Men

Justified

 

And of course, Family Fued

Not a fan of Always Sunny? By far my favorite show on tv right now. It's basically Seinfeld of the 2000's

[shrader]

 

 

The more interesting question with all the new picture taking devices, how does that work with photos? I know there's some issues with this is various places:

* 16-year-old guy takes picture of his wang

* Sends it to his 16-year-old girlfriend

* I think right now everyone is good with respects to the law

* As soon as those two turn 18 and haven't deleted (or destroyed if we're talking pre-digital) the picture, is it child porn?

* Is it child porn for the girl to have it regardless of age? How about the guy, is he producing CP?

 

(Legal disclaimer: I have no pictures of anyone sans clothing that's under 18)

 

I'm pretty sure you're wrong on that one. The sending of the picture and the viewing are both technically illegal. I would've swore I heard some stories of the law going after people in similar situations.

 

 

Not a fan of Always Sunny? By far my favorite show on tv right now. It's basically Seinfeld of the 2000's

 

I love the show, but your comparison is way too ambitious. Those two shows do not belong in the same sentence. Seinfeld was and still is a cultural phenomenon.

[Eleven]

 

I love the show, but your comparison is way too ambitious. Those two shows do not belong in the same sentence. Seinfeld was and still is a cultural phenomenon.

 

Seinfeld, there are at least three generations that talk about Seinfeld. Maybe four. It's the freaking Shakespeare of modern America. Nothing really compares.

[WildCard]

I'm pretty sure you're wrong on that one. The sending of the picture and the viewing are both technically illegal. I would've swore I heard some stories of the law going after people in similar situations.

 

 

 

I love the show, but your comparison is way too ambitious. Those two shows do not belong in the same sentence. Seinfeld was and still is a cultural phenomenon.

Seinfeld, there are at least three generations that talk about Seinfeld. Maybe four. It's the freaking Shakespeare of modern America. Nothing really compares.

It's not as big, but it's the same premise. It's a group of narcissists in a huge city doing nothing all day but find little details to pick on in life. Frank/Charlie = Kramer, McPoyles = Newman, Mac & Dennis = George and Jerry, Dee = Elaine.

 

Are the characters exactly the same? Course not, and Mac can never be as good as George was, but essentially it's the same show in a different era.

[LastPommerFan]

Seinfeld, there are at least three generations that talk about Seinfeld. Maybe four. It's the freaking Shakespeare of modern America. Nothing really compares.

 

The Simpsons.

[nfreeman]

fair question.

 

at the risk of disclosing too much: i've on occasion wondered how far back an individual is permitted to go in accessing -- um, *ahem* -- fond memories he (or she) may have of past encounters with the fairer sex (however that may be so defined). couched in terms more crass: should a spank bank have an auto-delete function based on a particular file's origination date?

 

say a hypothetical 41 year-old guy (truly hypothetical -- as in, he DOES NOT EXIST) had a literal roll in the hay with a charming rural girl when both were 17 years old. still fair game for the guy? (i'm excluding the girl from the question -- the chances that she would "reflect on it" as an adult are negligible, IMO.)

 

also: :bag:

 

Was she...enthusiastic?