Huckleberry Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 we won, ffs this is going to stink up any high draft pick plans :cry:
TheChimp Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 I live in New Jersey and I always catch them when they're here, but unfortunately not tonight. Miller was at his best. Who knows, maybe then can give us an entertaining run for the remainder of the year. No, that's exactly what they'll do. And finish 9th, one point out of a playoff spot. And then pick 16th in the draft and get nothing special. And they will do this because it's what God wants. Because he hates Buffalo.
qwksndmonster Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 No, that's exactly what they'll do. And finish 9th, one point out of a playoff spot. And then pick 16th in the draft and get nothing special. And they will do this because it's what God wants. Because he hates Buffalo. I thought hockey deities were numerous and vengeful... Now there's just one and he hates Buffalo? Bah!
TheChimp Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 I thought hockey deities were numerous and vengeful... Now there's just one and he hates Buffalo? Bah! Sorry, I meant Odin ;)
Kristian Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Guess Ruff just secured his job for another season ......
bcsaberks Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Interesting note: Adam, McCormick and Gragnani all with less than 6 minutes of ice time. Next lowest was Boyes and Ellis with 16+ Vanek at 18:51, Parise 25:03, Kovalchuk 29:15 Sabres only had about 3 minutes of PK time (all of which were Roy's, 23:30) vs 2:00 of PK for NJ.
TheMatrix31 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 I don't give a damn what pick we end up with, I will not ever root for this or any of my teams to lose. I mean, that's pathetic.
DumbPuck Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 I don't give a damn what pick we end up with, I will not ever root for this or any of my teams to lose. I mean, that's pathetic. I'm with you ... I can't bring myself to cheer for my team to lose. Even in the most dire of situations I want them to win.
apuszczalowski Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 The Sabres have enough prospects in their system that I don't want to see them carring more about the draft and getting draft picks then getting players that can turn things around now. Its not like they are an aging veteran team that has no youth to build with, They are just missing players that can help now. If moves are gonna be made, I would only be happy with making moves for NHL players, or almost ready NHL prospects that can step in now or next seasons. This team doesn't need a full strip down and rebuild
nfreeman Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Vanek at 18:51, Parise 25:03, Kovalchuk 29:15 Sabres only had about 3 minutes of PK time (all of which were Roy's, 23:30) vs 2:00 of PK for NJ. I'm not a Kovy fan, but I will say that he is incredibly fast and seems like a great athlete. The Sabres have enough prospects in their system that I don't want to see them carring more about the draft and getting draft picks then getting players that can turn things around now. Its not like they are an aging veteran team that has no youth to build with, They are just missing players that can help now. If moves are gonna be made, I would only be happy with making moves for NHL players, or almost ready NHL prospects that can step in now or next seasons. This team doesn't need a full strip down and rebuild But wouldn't you like to unload the overpaid underperformers and build up cap space? The NHL-ready players who are traded at the deadline are either rentals or underperformers like the Sabres are hopefully trying to get rid of (Roy, Stafford, Leopold, etc.). Remember, if the Sabres let go all of their UFAs and re-sign Ennis, they'll only have about $4MM in cap space -- but if they unload a few expensive vets and DON'T take back any salary, they'll have enough cap space for Parise, Doan, another vet center, etc.
Who Else? Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out for all you Pomminstein haters out there. If Gerbe doesn't score the shootout goes on. If Pomminstein doesn't score. Game over.
shrader Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 The Sabres have enough prospects in their system that I don't want to see them carring more about the draft and getting draft picks then getting players that can turn things around now. Its not like they are an aging veteran team that has no youth to build with, They are just missing players that can help now. If moves are gonna be made, I would only be happy with making moves for NHL players, or almost ready NHL prospects that can step in now or next seasons. This team doesn't need a full strip down and rebuild Those sound like the kind of moves that are far more likely in the offseason. I just can't see them being able to add that kind of player right now. There's a long list of playoff competitors right now who aren't going to move that kind of guy. So in the mean time, if they keep sucking and improve their draft status, I can't really complain about that. So did anyone watch the Devils broadcast last night? Is their play-by-play guy intentionally doing a really cheap Vin Scully rip off? The guy's forced tv voice was embarrassing. Then there's Ken Daneyko during the intermission. Listening to him talk, I'm surprised they don't have him voicing the Hulk in the upcoming Avengers movie.
Gramps Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out for all you Pomminstein haters out there. If Gerbe doesn't score the shootout goes on. If Pomminstein doesn't score. Game over. If Miller doesn't stand on his head in the 3rd, game over. C'mon ... 14 SOG ... only way this team wins is with a superhuman goaltending effort. And the one goal we did score was a lucky bounce off a stanchion. No offense = last place ...
Who Else? Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 If Miller doesn't stand on his head in the 3rd, game over. C'mon ... 14 SOG ... only way this team wins is with a superhuman goaltending effort. And the one goal we did score was a lucky bounce off a stanchion. No offense = last place ... I agree on Miller last night. The reason why I single out Pomminstein is because he is always taking heat on this board when he has been by far the best player this year.
ROC Sabres Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Just watch the highlights again on NHL.com. Pretty funny during the shootout, when buffalo scores they play the windows error message.
Derrico Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out for all you Pomminstein haters out there. If Gerbe doesn't score the shootout goes on. If Pomminstein doesn't score. Game over. There are Pommer haters out there this year? You sound like my wife, Pommers is our team saviour and the Sabres as a whole have sucked since the day they traded Marty Biron. I tried explaining that we were one more healthy Dman from winning the cup that playoff run without him but she'll have none of it.
nfreeman Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out for all you Pomminstein haters out there. If Gerbe doesn't score the shootout goes on. If Pomminstein doesn't score. Game over. I agree on Miller last night. The reason why I single out Pomminstein is because he is always taking heat on this board when he has been by far the best player this year. The shootout goal was indeed a clutch play by Pommer, and Pommer probably has been the team's best forward this year. But IMHO, being the best forward out of this group of forwards ain't saying much. And his captaincy has been a complete debacle. My bottom line on Pommer continues to be that while Pommer is a good player, he's overpaid, he's a poor leader (or, if you want to be charitable, an ineffective leader) on a team that is dying for leadership, and I'd MUCH rather have, say, a 1st and a 2nd from a playoff team looking to add a good forward at the deadline, plus Pommer's $5.3MM cap slot (since Parise, a much better player, will probably cost about $7.5MM as a UFA) going into this summer.
Iron Crotch Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 The shootout goal was indeed a clutch play by Pommer, and Pommer probably has been the team's best forward this year. But IMHO, being the best forward out of this group of forwards ain't saying much. And his captaincy has been a complete debacle. My bottom line on Pommer continues to be that while Pommer is a good player, he's overpaid, he's a poor leader (or, if you want to be charitable, an ineffective leader) on a team that is dying for leadership, and I'd MUCH rather have, say, a 1st and a 2nd from a playoff team looking to add a good forward at the deadline, plus Pommer's $5.3MM cap slot (since Parise, a much better player, will probably cost about $7.5MM as a UFA) going into this summer. I agree completely on this viewpoint. He is our best scorer this year, no doubt (although I get the feeling Vanek has been quietly injured for the past couple of weeks). But, to have a guy who throws about two checks a year and avoids contact at all costs as captain of the softest team in the league just doesn't make sense to me. And, his captaincy has coincided with the team plummeting in the standings. Maybe that is just coincidence...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 I don't give a damn what pick we end up with, I will not ever root for this or any of my teams to lose. I mean, that's pathetic. It's weird, I can never actually cheer against a Buffalo team when the game is going on. But when it's done, I often find myself sitting there saying "ya know, we'd really be better off long-term if they had lost." This is more true with the Bills, as every additional win means a lot more with respect to draft position than for the Sabres. The shootout goal was indeed a clutch play by Pommer, and Pommer probably has been the team's best forward this year. But IMHO, being the best forward out of this group of forwards ain't saying much. And his captaincy has been a complete debacle. My bottom line on Pommer continues to be that while Pommer is a good player, he's overpaid, he's a poor leader (or, if you want to be charitable, an ineffective leader) on a team that is dying for leadership, and I'd MUCH rather have, say, a 1st and a 2nd from a playoff team looking to add a good forward at the deadline, plus Pommer's $5.3MM cap slot (since Parise, a much better player, will probably cost about $7.5MM as a UFA) going into this summer. I'm in no hurry to get rid of Pommer, and I don't think he's as grossly overpaid as some do. The market for 50 point wingers is about $4mil per season, and Pommer normally gets to mid-60s, and assuming his production holds this year, will have 2 80 point seasons under his belt. Would I prefer he was on a bargain contract, of course. On the flip side, if we could flip him into a couple of good picks/prospects and use that money on Parise, I'm not going to say no. But didn't Parise (or his agent) recently say that winning is #1 and being "the man" is #2 for him? If that's actually true and our season continues on its current trajectory, I'm not sure we'd be able to convince him to come here if he has other competitive offers.
qwksndmonster Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 On the flip side, if we could flip him into a couple of good picks/prospects and use that money on Parise, I'm not going to say no. But didn't Parise (or his agent) recently say that winning is #1 and being "the man" is #2 for him? If that's actually true and our season continues on its current trajectory, I'm not sure we'd be able to convince him to come here if he has other competitive offers. Maybe our rigorous overhaul thoughout the heirarchy of the franchise from players to coach to GM in the offseason will convince him.
Who Else? Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 The shootout goal was indeed a clutch play by Pommer, and Pommer probably has been the team's best forward this year. But IMHO, being the best forward out of this group of forwards ain't saying much. And his captaincy has been a complete debacle. My bottom line on Pommer continues to be that while Pommer is a good player, he's overpaid, he's a poor leader (or, if you want to be charitable, an ineffective leader) on a team that is dying for leadership, and I'd MUCH rather have, say, a 1st and a 2nd from a playoff team looking to add a good forward at the deadline, plus Pommer's $5.3MM cap slot (since Parise, a much better player, will probably cost about $7.5MM as a UFA) going into this summer. Pomminstein was prematurely given this contract, but why do people dislike him because of Darcy's mistake? Was there some sort of future captain clause in there? Sure this team is lacking any sort of leadership, but someone has to have the C on their jersey. Who else was going to wear it? Myers after having a horrible 50 games last year? Regehr who is a new defenceman, see Craig Rivet. Gerbe who had 3 good months to his entire NHL career. Gaustad, who also has an inflated salary and plays like the same little school girl Pomminstein does, but puts up no offensive numbers. Miller, he's a goalie. Roy Stafford? Vanek is the only other "worthy" one and probably doesn't see eye to eye with the head coach. On this team anyone wearing the C should probably treat is as a scarlet A. He is producing and making that 5.3 comparatively look like a good deal.
Iron Crotch Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 Pomminstein was prematurely given this contract, but why do people dislike him because of Darcy's mistake? Was there some sort of future captain clause in there? Sure this team is lacking any sort of leadership, but someone has to have the C on their jersey. Who else was going to wear it? Myers after having a horrible 50 games last year? Regehr who is a new defenceman, see Craig Rivet. Gerbe who had 3 good months to his entire NHL career. Gaustad, who also has an inflated salary and plays like the same little school girl Pomminstein does, but puts up no offensive numbers. Miller, he's a goalie. Roy Stafford? Vanek is the only other "worthy" one and probably doesn't see eye to eye with the head coach. On this team anyone wearing the C should probably treat is as a scarlet A. He is producing and making that 5.3 comparatively look like a good deal. Actually, you make a pretty nice point about what is wrong with this team in general.
WanderingEye Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 This game was so dull. I know you expect it from the Devils but with the Sabres playing how they have been it combined into a perfect storm of boring.
Who Else? Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 This game was so dull. I know you expect it from the Devils but with the Sabres playing how they have been it combined into a perfect storm of boring. Boring was the winning formula. I expect these games to get worse especially after Ruff's win 1-0 comments.
Weave Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 It's weird, I can never actually cheer against a Buffalo team when the game is going on. But when it's done, I often find myself sitting there saying "ya know, we'd really be better off long-term if they had lost." This is more true with the Bills, as every additional win means a lot more with respect to draft position than for the Sabres. This is where I am at. I couldn't root against them last night during the game, but after it ended I couldn't help but think "man, I hope they don't make a habit of this and ruin a shot at an elite draft pick". Pomminstein was prematurely given this contract, but why do people dislike him because of Darcy's mistake? Was there some sort of future captain clause in there? Sure this team is lacking any sort of leadership, but someone has to have the C on their jersey. Who else was going to wear it? Myers after having a horrible 50 games last year? Regehr who is a new defenceman, see Craig Rivet. Gerbe who had 3 good months to his entire NHL career. Gaustad, who also has an inflated salary and plays like the same little school girl Pomminstein does, but puts up no offensive numbers. Miller, he's a goalie. Roy Stafford? Vanek is the only other "worthy" one and probably doesn't see eye to eye with the head coach. On this team anyone wearing the C should probably treat is as a scarlet A. He is producing and making that 5.3 comparatively look like a good deal. The one and only issue I have with Pommer this year is that the only player he seems to be able to inspire to top performance is himself. Now, that isn't really his fault. He is who he is. He's not really a captain. He just happens to be the only adult on the team who knew it was time to pull his boot straps up and act like a veteran. It speaks to the roster more than it speaks to any particular failing on Pominville's part.
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