That Aud Smell Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/hockey/nhl/01/23/tim.thomas.white.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe?
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? I'm not saying I agree with his views and / or political leanings, but good for him ... take a stand for what you believe in. I guess the Sabres don't believe in Miller.
darksabre Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? I don't understand not wanting to meet the President regardless of political views. I might not have liked Bush when he was in the White House, but I'd still want to meet the guy.
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? There was this Dallas Maverick who was banned from the White House ceremony recently... http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Mavericks-Player-Banned-from-White-House-136942863.html
apuszczalowski Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? Earlier this year there was a guy from the Bears who refused to go when Obama honored the 80's Bears team. Its happened before
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 I don't understand not wanting to meet the President regardless of political views. I might not have liked Bush when he was in the White House, but I'd still want to meet the guy and punch him in the nose! Added that little part for you.
TrueBlueGED Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Earlier this year there was a guy from the Bears who refused to go when Obama honored the 80's Bears team. Its happened before James Harrison (Steelers linebacker, for the football-uncaring) also refused to go, but his reason was hilarious. It wasn't political or anything like that, he was offended because the Steelers only got invited because they won. "He only invited us 'cause we won, if we lost he wouldn't want to meet us...if he wants to meet us he should invite us anyway" or something like that. Thanks Einstein...except that you're getting rewarded for winning it all by getting an opportunity to meet the president.
korab rules Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? Wow - who would have thunk it? Good for him - l actually admire a Bruin... I'm going to take a shower now.
darksabre Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Added that little part for you. Haha aw naww. I might have thought about throwing a shoe at him though.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Haha aw naww. I might have thought about throwing a shoe at him though. Wasn't that tried by some dude, but he missed. To bad you didn't get the chance to show us that your aim was better.
SwampD Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 tim thomas was a no-show at the white house today. apparently for his own personal political reasons. http://sportsillustr...te.house.visit/ notwithstanding Chiarelli's quote, is that a first? i can't recall an athlete declining to be a part of a white house ceremony because he didn't like the guy who was the current POTUS. but there must have been others -- ali, maybe? So, Thomas is "conservative", huh? I guess they didn't want to write that he "hates black people". :devil:
shrader Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 That whole thing is completely ceremonial and has been happening for as long as anyone can remember. It is 0% political. What a lame move. edit: Nevermind, I like SwampD's explanation better. :lol:
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 That whole thing is completely ceremonial and has been happening for as long as anyone can remember. It is 0% political. What a lame move. edit: Nevermind, I like SwampD's explanation better. :lol: I agree. What a thrill it would be in your later years to tell your children and grandchildren that you got invited to the White House to meet the President.
shrader Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 I agree. What a thrill it would be in your later years to tell your children and grandchildren that you got invited to the White House to meet the President. And apparently Thomas is bigger than his team.
Eleven Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 I agree. What a thrill it would be in your later years to tell your children and grandchildren that you got invited to the White House to meet the President. It's not that big a deal for Thomas because he's Canadian. Oh, wait...
darksabre Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 It's not that big a deal for Thomas because he's Canadian. Oh, wait... I think we need to see his birth certificate, just so that we know for sure.
apuszczalowski Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 If its political, I would think you would want to be there, have a chance to speak with the president and maybe discuss some of the issues you have with him in person?
That Aud Smell Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 If its political, I would think you would want to be there, have a chance to speak with the president and maybe discuss some of the issues you have with him in person? strikes me as symptomatic of where our culture/country has gotten to -- so polarized, so hopelessly divided -- there's precious little civility among/between political foes. if you were a true american, timmay, you'd be there with your team and just show due respect for the office. d!ck. p.s. when i say civility among foes, here's what i have in mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI
korab rules Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 The office is worth no more respect than the person occupying it. I've met governors and senators and congressmen and assemblymen. None of them become better people because they were elected to public office - they are the same frail imperfect human beings they were before. NYS is a perfect example of this. Unfailing respect for "authority" is one of the resons we are in the mess we are in. Questioning authority is American. Honoring an office is a 1000 year tradition of the country many of us fled.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Unfailing respect for "authority" is one of the resons we are in the mess we are in. Moderator.....oh moderator.....can we please copy this to 97% of the other threads here?
That Aud Smell Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 The office is worth no more respect than the person occupying it. I've met governors and senators and congressmen and assemblymen. None of them become better people because they were elected to public office - they are the same frail imperfect human beings they were before. NYS is a perfect example of this. Unfailing respect for "authority" is one of the resons we are in the mess we are in. Questioning authority is American. Honoring an office is a 1000 year tradition of the country many of us fled. it would appear that tim thomas isn't the only person symptomatic of the polarization that plagues american society.
darksabre Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 The office is worth no more respect than the person occupying it. I've met governors and senators and congressmen and assemblymen. None of them become better people because they were elected to public office - they are the same frail imperfect human beings they were before. NYS is a perfect example of this. Unfailing respect for "authority" is one of the resons we are in the mess we are in. Questioning authority is American. Honoring an office is a 1000 year tradition of the country many of us fled. I think I would have some respect for someone doing a job much harder than mine and making much less because of it. Thomas makes millions to play a game. The President makes what accounts to be the "league minimum" and gets ###### on constantly because he can't make everyone happy. There are only a few jobs I would want less than to be President of this country.
korab rules Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 it would appear that tim thomas isn't the only person symptomatic of the polarization that plagues american society. Meh. So shoot me. But they can't - they need my tax dollars.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 The office is worth no more respect than the person occupying it. I've met governors and senators and congressmen and assemblymen. None of them become better people because they were elected to public office - they are the same frail imperfect human beings they were before. NYS is a perfect example of this. Unfailing respect for "authority" is one of the resons we are in the mess we are in. Questioning authority is American. Honoring an office is a 1000 year tradition of the country many of us fled. The whole system is so beyond repair now....I would go. At least for the team activity aspect of it. Plus I like dogs and it would be fun playing with the First Dog.
Iron Crotch Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 strikes me as symptomatic of where our culture/country has gotten to -- so polarized, so hopelessly divided -- there's precious little civility among/between political foes. if you were a true american, timmay, you'd be there with your team and just show due respect for the office. d!ck. p.s. when i say civility among foes, here's what i have in mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI I agree - it is frightening how polarized we've become as a nation. (A) it is a team event, not an individual event (just as hockey is a team sport and not an individual sport) and (B) he took something that is not about politics and made it about politics.
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