Who Else? Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Thats the power of Enroth. When he went in, the Red Wings were so afraid and knew they had no chance against him that they gave up and coasted the remainder of the game........ Or they just felt so embarrassed for the Sabres that they held back so not to embarass them further. I expected to see someone like Lydstrom lightly pass the puck to a Sabres player in the Detroit zone and then move out of the way to let them come in on Howard alone, where Howard would make an exagerated move looking like he tried to make the save but instead letting it go in and then the Detroit team applaud them like they did it all on their own. Like what they do for 4 year olds or sick kids. Either that or see him stop, skate over to the Buffalo player with the puck and start showing them what they are doing wrong during the game Nice.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Nice. Pretty funny, I chuckled :)
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Thats the power of Enroth. When he went in, the Red Wings were so afraid and knew they had no chance against him that they gave up and coasted the remainder of the game........ Or they just felt so embarrassed for the Sabres that they held back so not to embarass them further. I expected to see someone like Lydstrom lightly pass the puck to a Sabres player in the Detroit zone and then move out of the way to let them come in on Howard alone, where Howard would make an exagerated move looking like he tried to make the save but instead letting it go in and then the Detroit team applaud them like they did it all on their own. Like what they do for 4 year olds or sick kids. Either that or see him stop, skate over to the Buffalo player with the puck and start showing them what they are doing wrong during the game :w00t: :w00t: :(
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 :w00t: :w00t: :( See that, this team is making us bipolar!!!
LaLaLaFontaine Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Absolutely. I think Miller let loose the key to "change" for the Sabres: destroy the team. It's clear he doesn't think swapping a player or two will change the culture of that locker room. That means it's a top-to-bottom problem. The "problem" is so apparent and in front of their noses they can't see it, or won't admit to it, yet they say it all of the time. IT'S EVERYONE. Everyone is apathetic. Everyone is uptight. Everyone is frustrated. That includes Lindy, Darcy, Ted, and Terry. That includes the assistant coaches, the locker room personnel...anyone who generates and feeds off of the Sabres culture. Either all of these guys are afraid to bitch at one-another, or they're so wishy-washy that they don't see the point in doing so. Because it sounds to me like there isn't a one of them willing to lead the entire group. What the hell is a "leadership meeting"? These guys are the nerds of hockey - they think and ponder before acting, instead of just DOING. No thinking, you're not supposed to think, you DO, and if you can't do that, get out of the way. And I bet, again, this is a culture that comes from the top-down, because that's where any group culture gets its base characteristics from. I've worked for organizations that just plain sucked - it's funny how an entire organization can thrive in a culture of failure. In one in particular a new CEO comes in, who everyone dislikes right away because he's new, and starts making changes to the culture. Cubicles rearranged, invoicing system changed, reporting changed, dress code changed and enforced - on top of new business strategies and policies. This guy knew exactly what needed to be done. Certain people were let go. In only a few years, this organization, which was headed for a colossal failure, starts to succeed. In a decade, it's among the best at what it does and is a model for other businesses of its type. I won't reveal which organization this is, btw. It can be done. No one in the organization will like it at first - well, the people who prefer the status-quo or who lack vision won't. But the change I think Sabres fans are after can be made, but it's going to have to be (or seem) big, and sweeping, and start from the top down. I think Miller is saying that Darcy needs to go. He's saying the team is built the way it is and nothing other than destroying it will change it. Who built this team? Darcy. And Lindy. Lindy will need to go, too, for it to be complete. All of the players who are up at the end of the season should be allowed to walk. And get rid of a few more no matter how. Sorry, got caught up in my thoughts. Excellent post. You really described the essence of the problem. The changes needs to be on top of the organization. Gm and coach must be changed, any other things won't help us.
MDFan Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 I have been in the "patient" camp but no more. This team is just pathetic. Listless, passionless, gutless. It just gets worse and worse. I just cannot watch it anymore.For a time, the Sabres were losing it seemed to me because of the nightly line up changes and generally being over matched, but at least they were turning in some hard efforts. I have not seen that for a while. This looks like a team that just does not care. I see no hope of a turnaround this year. They show nothing to make you think they are close to turning a corner. I really hate to say it because I like Ruff, but if ever a team needed a shakeup at Coach this is it.
TheChimp Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Give Detroit one more full game against Enroth and they'll be scoring on him just as easily as they did against Miller. All they need is to learn his tendencies and then give them that many giveaways and wide open chances and they'll bury them. Don't kid yourselves. One of the biggest reasons Miller's numbers are plummeting have to do with the fact that he's getting even LESS support than last season, which we all thought was an all-time embarrassing low point. At this point, if Miller demands a trade and gets it, and he goes to a team with an actual PRIDE in their ability to defend their goal, I'll bet dollars to donuts that Miller escalates his numbers back to the middle of the top tier of goalies. I mean, seriously, have we forgotten already how bad Enroth started doing after the teams started to have some film on him to study??? That win streak to start the season started to turn into just your average goaltender numbers as soon as he played a dozen games, and watch, you make him our starter, by the end of the year, under THIS coach and with THIS bunch of dickheads skating in front of him, his numbers will be bottom third by the end of the season, guaranteed.
JJFIVEOH Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Miller is 40th in the league in save %. I've got news for you, there aren't 39 goaltenders with a better defense in front of them. Watch some other games around the league, there are very few "stonewall" defenses to come to the aid of their goaltenders. Enroth is 10th in save % with the same defense. "Figuring him out" won't drop him to 40th. Miller has played with a variety of defenses and throughout his career has been an average goaltender at best. He is more concerned about his image than he is winning, and it couldn't have been more obvious than last night when he seemed to be more upset that he got pulled because it made him look bad in front of his family and friends. This team is pressed up against the cap wall and his $6.25 mil salary isn't helping any. Based on his past stats he should have been traded when the media portrayed him as gods gift to hockey and he was still worth something. I posted this in another thread, I'll post it again. Edit: And seriously, are you going to hold a couple of bad games for Enroth against him? He has yet to put together a string of bad games. He has only had 4 games where his save % was below .8 and two of them were in relief of Miller. Of the two he started he rebounded with a 1-0 win and a 5-1 win. If you're going to take away from his performance last night because Detroit was sitting back, then maybe you should take away the two games that ruined his save % in which he came in for relief of Miller when he already had a full day of practice while Miller was home doing...... whatever the hell it is he does to prepare for a game. Since the lockout, here are Miller's ranks in GAA and Save %.... GAA: 05-06:#11 06-07:#20 07-08:#24 08-09:#18 09-10:#2 10-11:#21 Save %: 05-06:#9 06-07:#15 07-08:#29 08-09:#8 09-10:#2 10-11:#17 3 of a possible 12 he ranked in the top 10. He ranked outside of the top 20 more often than he ranked in the top 10. Take away the one Vezina year and he doesn't even have good stats much less "superstar" stats. When I hear the terms "Superstar" and "Best goalie in the world" from the media I wonder what the hell they're talking about. Had it not been for the Olympics he would be just another average goaltender. I like Miller, I think he is generally pretty consistent and more often than not, gives the team a chance to win most nights. But as soon as the team, the players, the media and Miller himself get over the fact that he's not as good as they think.......... this team might go somewhere. Stop treating him like the Golden Boy and treat him like every other goaltender gets treated when they don't live up to their expectations.
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