Finally. Hammy thinks he knows what Anaheim wants.

[LGR4GM]

Trading Tyler Myers for anything short of a player like Stamkos, Toews, or Malkin is foolish and will gain us nothing. Goodnight.

[...]

This is all conjecture, anyway. Getzlaf isn't going anywhere.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

Keep Myers.

 

 

Yes, i understand Getzlaf is a top 5 center.

 

Yes, I have witnessed Myers recent "decline" (one i attribute much of to the play of the team around him) since his rookie season.

 

Yes, i understand that he's essentially the only way we get Getzlaf unless Darcy makes us all eat our words.

 

 

There is a reason the Ducks want Tyler. They built their championship team around great defensemen, and they recognize the importance of having a steady force at the blue line.

 

We need new coaching, we could use more physical players, we need more scoring... all of this is true, but i'm a firm believer that our defensive depth in the pipeline is going to make a tremendous difference. The likes of Myers, Mcnabb, Pysyk, and Brennan have size, they have skill, and with the right coach, are going to be the equivalent of playing against a brick wall. I think Regher was brought in with the intention of mentoring these players as a seasoned vet.

 

I'm not sold on the three year plan, but this team is going to be scary to play against in five years, assuming the new coach (please) doesn't take physical play out of the game. Defense wins championships. Yes, you have to score to win, but if you can keep the puck out of your own net, and make the other team think twice before entering your zone, you're well on your way IMO.

 

 

That and i have a Myers jersey i'm quite fond of :flirt:

 

Edit: I would like to add Myers contract extension as well as a key point. The cap hit is low (relatively speaking) , and IF he does blossom into the defensemen many see him becoming, it will be a tremendous advantage to having him on the roster.

[TrueBlueGED]

Hello all, I'm new here. Been lurking for awhile, and figured I spent enough time reading the forum I may as well participate. Generally speaking I think the team needs some significant changes, which would probably need to involve at least the GM, and likely the coach. But, I'm not quite on the "blow it all up and start over with a team of 23-and-under."

 

As for this possible trade, I don't really have much to add on either side of the argument that hasn't been said already. I wouldn't make the deal. I'm taking a risk that Myers realizes his potential, and I fully acknowledge that. Either way, I don't think trading for Getzlaf makes us a playoff team this year. The contract situation does worry me, and without an extension in place I wouldn't even think about making this deal. Also, for those of you who make the trade, you are taking a big risk too (maybe not as large as banking on Myers' potential) that Getzlaf snaps out of his funk AND signs long term. He's not producing with Corey Perry and Bobby Ryan as his wingers, what guarantee is there that a "change of scenery" will get him to produce with Vanek and Pominville?

 

Lastly, I do take issue with everybody insisting that he's some great leader, which I completely disagree with. He has performed great in the playoffs, but does anybody REALLY think he was the leader in that room for the Cup when Pronger and Niedermayer were there? Also, there have been various reports out of Anaheim that ever since he was made captain, he hasn't been "right." Take it with a grain of salt if you will, but what exactly has he captained his team to? Like the Sabres, the Ducks are way too talented to be where they are in the standings. If he was such a fantastic leader, combined with his great play, you wouldn't think they'd be where they are. To me, if you trade for him, you're getting a borderline top-10 center with good physicality and a record of performing in the playoffs, but you aren't getting someone who is a real leader.

 

A final point to those who are saying the play of McNabb makes Myers expendable. We have absolutely NO way of knowing this, and I feel people are backing McNabb so much just because he lays people out on a more regular basis. We've all seen Myers' inconsistency, and I'm not going to belabor the point about how many other defensemen in the NHL have had rough starts to their careers. But how do we know what we've seen from McNabb so far isn't a flash in the pan? To be willing to give up Myers' high potential (which is infinitely more realized than McNabb's) simply because McNabb has looked really good in a quarter of an NHL season to me is insanity. If you think giving up Myers potential for Getzlaf is the right thing to do, that's a reasonable argument. But to say he's expendable because of McNabb, to me, is just a total knee-jerk reaction.

[nfreeman]

Hello all, I'm new here. Been lurking for awhile, and figured I spent enough time reading the forum I may as well participate. Generally speaking I think the team needs some significant changes, which would probably need to involve at least the GM, and likely the coach. But, I'm not quite on the "blow it all up and start over with a team of 23-and-under."

 

As for this possible trade, I don't really have much to add on either side of the argument that hasn't been said already. I wouldn't make the deal. I'm taking a risk that Myers realizes his potential, and I fully acknowledge that. Either way, I don't think trading for Getzlaf makes us a playoff team this year. The contract situation does worry me, and without an extension in place I wouldn't even think about making this deal. Also, for those of you who make the trade, you are taking a big risk too (maybe not as large as banking on Myers' potential) that Getzlaf snaps out of his funk AND signs long term. He's not producing with Corey Perry and Bobby Ryan as his wingers, what guarantee is there that a "change of scenery" will get him to produce with Vanek and Pominville?

 

Lastly, I do take issue with everybody insisting that he's some great leader, which I completely disagree with. He has performed great in the playoffs, but does anybody REALLY think he was the leader in that room for the Cup when Pronger and Niedermayer were there? Also, there have been various reports out of Anaheim that ever since he was made captain, he hasn't been "right." Take it with a grain of salt if you will, but what exactly has he captained his team to? Like the Sabres, the Ducks are way too talented to be where they are in the standings. If he was such a fantastic leader, combined with his great play, you wouldn't think they'd be where they are. To me, if you trade for him, you're getting a borderline top-10 center with good physicality and a record of performing in the playoffs, but you aren't getting someone who is a real leader.

 

A final point to those who are saying the play of McNabb makes Myers expendable. We have absolutely NO way of knowing this, and I feel people are backing McNabb so much just because he lays people out on a more regular basis. We've all seen Myers' inconsistency, and I'm not going to belabor the point about how many other defensemen in the NHL have had rough starts to their careers. But how do we know what we've seen from McNabb so far isn't a flash in the pan? To be willing to give up Myers' high potential (which is infinitely more realized than McNabb's) simply because McNabb has looked really good in a quarter of an NHL season to me is insanity. If you think giving up Myers potential for Getzlaf is the right thing to do, that's a reasonable argument. But to say he's expendable because of McNabb, to me, is just a total knee-jerk reaction.

 

Welcome! Good first post -- please keep 'em coming.

[biodork]

Hello all, I'm new here. Been lurking for awhile, and figured I spent enough time reading the forum I may as well participate. Generally speaking I think the team needs some significant changes, which would probably need to involve at least the GM, and likely the coach. But, I'm not quite on the "blow it all up and start over with a team of 23-and-under."

 

As for this possible trade, I don't really have much to add on either side of the argument that hasn't been said already. I wouldn't make the deal. I'm taking a risk that Myers realizes his potential, and I fully acknowledge that. Either way, I don't think trading for Getzlaf makes us a playoff team this year. The contract situation does worry me, and without an extension in place I wouldn't even think about making this deal. Also, for those of you who make the trade, you are taking a big risk too (maybe not as large as banking on Myers' potential) that Getzlaf snaps out of his funk AND signs long term. He's not producing with Corey Perry and Bobby Ryan as his wingers, what guarantee is there that a "change of scenery" will get him to produce with Vanek and Pominville?

 

Lastly, I do take issue with everybody insisting that he's some great leader, which I completely disagree with. He has performed great in the playoffs, but does anybody REALLY think he was the leader in that room for the Cup when Pronger and Niedermayer were there? Also, there have been various reports out of Anaheim that ever since he was made captain, he hasn't been "right." Take it with a grain of salt if you will, but what exactly has he captained his team to? Like the Sabres, the Ducks are way too talented to be where they are in the standings. If he was such a fantastic leader, combined with his great play, you wouldn't think they'd be where they are. To me, if you trade for him, you're getting a borderline top-10 center with good physicality and a record of performing in the playoffs, but you aren't getting someone who is a real leader.

 

A final point to those who are saying the play of McNabb makes Myers expendable. We have absolutely NO way of knowing this, and I feel people are backing McNabb so much just because he lays people out on a more regular basis. We've all seen Myers' inconsistency, and I'm not going to belabor the point about how many other defensemen in the NHL have had rough starts to their careers. But how do we know what we've seen from McNabb so far isn't a flash in the pan? To be willing to give up Myers' high potential (which is infinitely more realized than McNabb's) simply because McNabb has looked really good in a quarter of an NHL season to me is insanity. If you think giving up Myers potential for Getzlaf is the right thing to do, that's a reasonable argument. But to say he's expendable because of McNabb, to me, is just a total knee-jerk reaction.

 

Good stuff, and welcome aboard (no pun intended)!

[TheChimp]

None of us do. Neither does Anaheim, and neither does Buffalo. It's a straight up gamble. Does Getzlaf make us a better team or does Myers?

 

We all downplayed Richards and he turned into a massive signing for the Rangers. Regehr turned out well for us. Taking a chance on Getzlaf is up to Darcy, but I'd do it.

Wait, wait. Everybody did what with Richards????? I was willing to give up my one good kidney to see that dude here, was screaming for it for two years plus. Bunch of us were.

 

But that said, I, too, think that even Brad Richards would be ruined here. But even a half-arsed Ricrads woulda been better than what we got now. Dang, you made me go back on my Richards rant....I was almost over it... damn you.

[Kristian]

The cure for this franchises problems is getting rid of certain people, not adding new people.

 

While I agree this team needs a Getzlaf, what it needs more than anything is to get rid of a Regier, Ruff, Roy, Stafford etc.

 

Nobody brought it will ever have any impact, as long as Regier keeps drafting the wrong players, Ruff keeps screwing them up, and players like Roy lead the lockerroom.

[Andrew Amerk]

Poblem is that with Lindy as the Head Coach Getzlaf will end up sucking like Boyes, Torres, Leion, Ehroff, Reigeher etc

 

Who are those last 3 players that you mentioned?

[drnkirishone]

he's the biggest and softest player on the roster at the same time

Thank you for confirming for me that you don't know a thing about this team.

[Andrew Amerk]

 

Thank you for confirming for me that you don't know a thing about this team.

 

I beg to differ.

[drnkirishone]

No player can be the softest player on his roster when MAG is also on said roster

[neverenough]

The cure for this franchises problems is getting rid of certain people, not adding new people.

 

While I agree this team needs a Getzlaf, what it needs more than anything is to get rid of a Regier, Ruff, Roy, Stafford etc.

 

Nobody brought it will ever have any impact, as long as Regier keeps drafting the wrong players, Ruff keeps screwing them up, and players like Roy lead the lockerroom.

Yes,yes and yes

[radiomike]

For the life of me still don't understand the argument against a Myers for Getzlaf straight up - reasons against is that he could potentially be a great player. Ya, well Getzlaf is a great player already. Proven asset>potential.

[RazielSabre]

For the life of me still don't understand the argument against a Myers for Getzlaf straight up - reasons against is that he could potentially be a great player. Ya, well Getzlaf is a great player already. Proven asset>potential.

So great Anahiem are doing worse than us, even scoring less goals.

[beerme1]

To me, if you trade for him, you're getting a borderline top-10 center with good physicality and a record of performing in the playoffs, but you aren't getting someone who is a real leader.

 

I feel people are backing McNabb so much just because he lays people out on a more regular basis. We've all seen Myers' inconsistency,

But how do we know what we've seen from McNabb so far isn't a flash in the pan?

 

To be willing to give up Myers' high potential (which is infinitely more realized than McNabb's) simply because McNabb has looked really good in a quarter of an NHL season to me is insanity. If you think giving up Myers potential for Getzlaf is the right thing to do, that's a reasonable argument. But to say he's expendable because of McNabb, to me, is just a total knee-jerk reaction.

 

Hi and welcome in.

 

Your first point could carry far more weight than anyone knows. What if he comes here and is consistantly physical and then demands the same from other people on the team? Hey Staff I want to see you at least hit one guy on this shift and then the next and the next. That has a potential of waking the whole team up and that reason may sway me to make the deal if I believe that.Oh ya he produces in the playoffs to boot.

 

McNabb is untouchable because he lays people out regularly. He is the true keeper on the team.

 

I dont want to give up Myers. Him and McNabb are the only guys I wouldn't trade. And Myers does things like rush the net that McNabb may never do and that is something we desperately need right now is points from our D.

All in all though the contract situation perhaps more than anything puts the brakes on the whole thing. Would you want to trade the security you have in Myers contract for a roll of the dice on Getzlaf? Unless that changed somehow that is perhaps the biggest hold up here.

[LTS]

This thread is a hack job. I'm not even going to bother to quote people:

 

People backing McNabb as more awesome than Myers - in many cases there is a reference to Myers amazing rookie year and then a drop off. Well McNabb is in his rookie year, do you know he won't also "drop off"?

 

People saying Getzlaf is a sure thing: Really? The guy plays with two very offensive talents in the NHL, where was Perry in scoring last year? Oh yea, 3rd, with 50G. That makes anyone around you look better. Ryan was 21st in scoring, Getzlaf was 14th. Who's he playing with here? Vanek and Pominville? I suppose that would be great, they are both in the top 20 in scoring or are you putting him with someone else on the team in the hopes that he raises their level of play? Do you put him with Stafford? It's not a slam dunk. I also believe the "C" talk about him is true.

 

People saying our "D" is bad: It appears that way. But you have to remember that ANY defense will look bad when you have forwards on the ice who cannot keep the puck in the opponents zone and do a terrible job of helping get the puck out of your own zone. I don't think our "D" is bad, I think our forwards cause too much play to happen in the Sabres end and when that happens people all start to look bad.

 

Myers is signed for eternity at $5.5m: You cannot overlook that fact. He's a bargain given his potential and unless he completely flops he's very movable in the future.

 

Myers is not the best "D" on the team: I see this but no one says who is better. Myers is physical enough but he removes the puck from a player with his reach more often. Myers skates as well as ANY of our "D" and controls the puck on the rush WAY BETTER than anyone else. His offensive ability is outstanding.. tell me again who scored the Sabres only goal against WPG.. you know, the one where people said he was the reason they lost.

 

When you add it all up what I see are a bunch of people who are so desperate for anything that they aren't thinking clearly or thoroughly. Face it.. the problems aren't getting fixed overnight. Getzlaf will not make the Sabres better immediately because the rest of the pieces are bad. Why get rid of a highly sought after player with great potential for a sought after player who is pretty good (I refuse great at the moment) only to find that your team still can only score with 1 line and now your defense production has gone down.

 

It's not about win now.. the Sabres CAN'T win now.. it's impossible. It's about win next year or the year after. Shed the dead weight, strengthen through FA, and let your young talent who is bigger in size, etc. become the core.

 

I'd write more now but I have to go to a meeting.

[HopefulFuture]

Once again, Myers is overrated. We have defensemen better than him. We have the chance to get what we need, a center. We can't sit around waiting and thinking we could've had Getzlaf bc Myers didn't get better. We need to make this move, the next 10 seasons rely on it.

 

I fail to understand how 1 season of Getzlaf is worth 7 with Myers.

Explain this to me please.

 

This thread is a hack job. I'm not even going to bother to quote people:

 

People backing McNabb as more awesome than Myers - in many cases there is a reference to Myers amazing rookie year and then a drop off. Well McNabb is in his rookie year, do you know he won't also "drop off"?

 

People saying Getzlaf is a sure thing: Really? The guy plays with two very offensive talents in the NHL, where was Perry in scoring last year? Oh yea, 3rd, with 50G. That makes anyone around you look better. Ryan was 21st in scoring, Getzlaf was 14th. Who's he playing with here? Vanek and Pominville? I suppose that would be great, they are both in the top 20 in scoring or are you putting him with someone else on the team in the hopes that he raises their level of play? Do you put him with Stafford? It's not a slam dunk. I also believe the "C" talk about him is true.

 

People saying our "D" is bad: It appears that way. But you have to remember that ANY defense will look bad when you have forwards on the ice who cannot keep the puck in the opponents zone and do a terrible job of helping get the puck out of your own zone. I don't think our "D" is bad, I think our forwards cause too much play to happen in the Sabres end and when that happens people all start to look bad.

 

Myers is signed for eternity at $5.5m: You cannot overlook that fact. He's a bargain given his potential and unless he completely flops he's very movable in the future.

 

Myers is not the best "D" on the team: I see this but no one says who is better. Myers is physical enough but he removes the puck from a player with his reach more often. Myers skates as well as ANY of our "D" and controls the puck on the rush WAY BETTER than anyone else. His offensive ability is outstanding.. tell me again who scored the Sabres only goal against WPG.. you know, the one where people said he was the reason they lost.

 

When you add it all up what I see are a bunch of people who are so desperate for anything that they aren't thinking clearly or thoroughly. Face it.. the problems aren't getting fixed overnight. Getzlaf will not make the Sabres better immediately because the rest of the pieces are bad. Why get rid of a highly sought after player with great potential for a sought after player who is pretty good (I refuse great at the moment) only to find that your team still can only score with 1 line and now your defense production has gone down.

 

It's not about win now.. the Sabres CAN'T win now.. it's impossible. It's about win next year or the year after. Shed the dead weight, strengthen through FA, and let your young talent who is bigger in size, etc. become the core.

 

I'd write more now but I have to go to a meeting.

 

4 out of 5 fans that look forward to a Hopeful Future agree with this post. Well written, and very true.

[RazielSabre]

This thread is a hack job. I'm not even going to bother to quote people:

 

People backing McNabb as more awesome than Myers - in many cases there is a reference to Myers amazing rookie year and then a drop off. Well McNabb is in his rookie year, do you know he won't also "drop off"?

 

People saying Getzlaf is a sure thing: Really? The guy plays with two very offensive talents in the NHL, where was Perry in scoring last year? Oh yea, 3rd, with 50G. That makes anyone around you look better. Ryan was 21st in scoring, Getzlaf was 14th. Who's he playing with here? Vanek and Pominville? I suppose that would be great, they are both in the top 20 in scoring or are you putting him with someone else on the team in the hopes that he raises their level of play? Do you put him with Stafford? It's not a slam dunk. I also believe the "C" talk about him is true.

 

People saying our "D" is bad: It appears that way. But you have to remember that ANY defense will look bad when you have forwards on the ice who cannot keep the puck in the opponents zone and do a terrible job of helping get the puck out of your own zone. I don't think our "D" is bad, I think our forwards cause too much play to happen in the Sabres end and when that happens people all start to look bad.

 

Myers is signed for eternity at $5.5m: You cannot overlook that fact. He's a bargain given his potential and unless he completely flops he's very movable in the future.

 

Myers is not the best "D" on the team: I see this but no one says who is better. Myers is physical enough but he removes the puck from a player with his reach more often. Myers skates as well as ANY of our "D" and controls the puck on the rush WAY BETTER than anyone else. His offensive ability is outstanding.. tell me again who scored the Sabres only goal against WPG.. you know, the one where people said he was the reason they lost.

 

When you add it all up what I see are a bunch of people who are so desperate for anything that they aren't thinking clearly or thoroughly. Face it.. the problems aren't getting fixed overnight. Getzlaf will not make the Sabres better immediately because the rest of the pieces are bad. Why get rid of a highly sought after player with great potential for a sought after player who is pretty good (I refuse great at the moment) only to find that your team still can only score with 1 line and now your defense production has gone down.

 

It's not about win now.. the Sabres CAN'T win now.. it's impossible. It's about win next year or the year after. Shed the dead weight, strengthen through FA, and let your young talent who is bigger in size, etc. become the core.

 

I'd write more now but I have to go to a meeting.

 

Post Of The Year. It may be early but an excellent post in general.

[SabresMojo]

Poblem is that with Lindy as the Head Coach Getzlaf will end up sucking like Boyes, Torres, Leion, Ehroff, Reigeher etc

 

If you mean Regher, he has been the best out of the names you listed...

He doesn't have the greatest +/- of the team, I think he has the lowest; but he provides a physical sense that only Kaleta sporadically gave.

 

I do agree it will take Myers to get that attention.

I completely disagree with giving him away in a trade for Getzlaf.

If Myers is leaving for a center, think names like Toews, Stamkos, Kopitar or Tavares.

 

Myers is young with an immense amount of upside. If we are moving him I'd expect a bigger return than Getzlaf.

 

True, the guys you listed are bigger names with more of an impact/upside (as stated).

Getzlaf is a good player, but stated earlier, look who he is playing with! Just like Leino, great players!

 

I think differently. Hamilton said that some GM's think Darcy is difficult to deal with. Never stated sources. Many thought it was opinion. Then we get the Burke vid.

 

"Here’s the asking price as of now," This, to me, sounds like a statement of knowledge, not opinion. So does this, "nobody, yes you read that right, nobody in the NHL wants him right now".

 

After hearing Burke state pretty explicitly what Hamilton was expressing about Darcy has convinced me that he has his sources but is likely obligated to not identify them (or risk losing them as sources).

 

 

As for Myers-for-Getzlaf, I wouldn;t do it "in a heartbeat". It is a serious trade with serious risk-reward potential. But in the end I think I make the deal. Mostly because we are trading proven performance for potential. Remember, Myers isn't even all star yet, let alone Norris candidate. He may never be a Norris candidate. Then again, he very well could be. What we know we would be getting is a proven playoff performer, leader, and #1 center, borderline elite. Something that Myers *MAY* become. By the same token, he may not ever reach those lofty hieghts.

 

The other thing to consider is our depth at defence. Myers is a big part of our defence. But if he goes, we have lots of other talent. We have nothing at center. Nothing.

 

It is a high risk - high reward league. Sometimes you have to take big shots at the pot if you want to be in the final table.

 

Do you consider Myers for Getzlaf a reward in the end? Hard to tell.

As mentioned, age is a big issue.

 

 

 

If he has been so terrible as you suggest, why would a GM move a top 5 center straight up for him?

 

I'm thinking every GM in the league would give up just about anything to get Myers. Why is that?

 

To think you call him terrible, and many here have absolutely no problem and wouldn't second guess shipping him out.

 

6'8" defensemen with good scoring and great skating ability do not just grow on trees.

 

If that were the case, Myers would have been gone yesterday.

 

Once again, Myers is overrated. We have defensemen better than him. We have the chance to get what we need, a center. We can't sit around waiting and thinking we could've had Getzlaf bc Myers didn't get better. We need to make this move, the next 10 seasons rely on it.

 

Overrated?

He's only 21 and you're saying he's overrated, how so?

All players aren't brilliant like Crosby or Ovie and come out of the draft scoring a plethora of points per game.

Need time to grow...

[FolignosJock]

At 21 years old, I still consider Myers a bit of a prospect. You assume he's going to be the next Chara-- that's your prospective opinion on him. Unless you think he's done developing and is the player he is going to be for the rest of his career -- then he is no longer a prospect.

 

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

 

 

That is not what a prospect is. That is potential. McNabb has not outperformed Myers, and Myers is not far from being the best defensemen this year. I dont know when Myers took your sister home or pissed in your cheerios but he is pretty good.

 

Because the team sucks right now. And the team has been soft since Briere/Drury. Quite obviously, there is more to assembling a team than looking at stats, and it's over Darcy's head.

 

You think Briere and Drury made this team harder???? I will have to disagree.

[MDFan]

Myers is the Sabres number 1 asset. He is only 21. A Myers for Getszalf trade would rank with the dumbest moves ever in the NHL, along with the classic Mike Milbury move of trading Charra to Ottawa plus the #2 pick in the draft (Spezza) for Alexi Yashin when Charra was at a similar point in his career -still young and struggling but tons of potential. How did that work out? If the Sabres were going to trade Myers, which I cannot see happening at all, it would have to be for one hell of a lot more than Ryan Getzalf. Its no wonder Anaheim would want to make this move - it would be the steal of the century.

[Sabre fan]

Herein lies the Sabres' biggest problem... Regier overrates our "core" players and wants way too much in return in any deal. No

one will take Stafford or Goose or Boyes or whoever at the price he asks. So other teams only want our young prospects who truly have potential and Lindy hasn't quite ruined yet (give him time). Getzlaf would do no better then anyone else with Lindy behind the bench. He'd change Getzlaf's style to "Sabre" hockey, which is, well, you know (see "Pansies" or "smurfs" in the dictionary). Gonna

be a long season...

[FolignosJock]

If you mean Regher, he has been the best out of the names you listed...

He doesn't have the greatest +/- of the team, I think he has the lowest; but he provides a physical sense that only Kaleta sporadically gave.

 

 

 

True, the guys you listed are bigger names with more of an impact/upside (as stated).

Getzlaf is a good player, but stated earlier, look who he is playing with! Just like Leino, great players!

 

 

 

Do you consider Myers for Getzlaf a reward in the end? Hard to tell.

As mentioned, age is a big issue.

 

 

 

 

 

If that were the case, Myers would have been gone yesterday.

 

 

 

Overrated?

He's only 21 and you're saying he's overrated, how so?

All players aren't brilliant like Crosby or Ovie and come out of the draft scoring a plethora of points per game.

Need time to grow...

 

 

The bolded part makes zero sense.

[dEnnis the Menace]

I got tired of reading some of the posts, so I skipped to the reply portion of the exam.

 

We can all agree that some on this board fancy that McNabb has more upside than Myers. Think about this for a minute: remember when Myers was a rookie playing out of HIS mind? Remember how we built him up as the next Chara, Weber, ________(insert awesome older veteran defenseman here)? Now we want to keep Mcnabb (rookie playing out of his mind), and trade Myers because he has been inconsistent? If looking at a comparison, side by side, of Chara to Myers up to the same point in their careers that Myers has reached so far, Myers is OUTPERFORMING CHARA!

 

Does he have mental gaffes, and is he slightly overrated? probably a little. But look at what happened to our powerplay and especially our PK when he left the lineup. per the Buffalo News report, or whatever one it was, without Myers, our PK went from killing at a high 80's percantage to a mid to high 70's percentage. Tell me he doesn't make this team better! the gaa went up when he left the lineup. tell me he doesn't have a huge impact.

 

NHL defensemen are known for taking the longest into developing. Elite NHL defensemen are not elite until they enter their prime generally. Myers hasn't even approached his yet. He WILL get better, and pairing him with McNabb has been the best thing Lindy has done in a loooooonnnggg time.

 

lastly, if you couldn't tell how I felt about Myers by now, I really wouldn't trade him for Getzlaf. I have a couple of players I view as untradable on this team. Vanek, Myers, and Regehr. Those 3 players are untouchable in my eyes.