Finally. Hammy thinks he knows what Anaheim wants.

[LGR4GM]

Ok, well hate to burst your bubble, but we're not going to have the cap space to sign Parise or any "elite" UFA (there are none besides Parise) without unloading something.

 

Secondly, we are deep at defense. We have 8 NHL defenseman on our roster, and Myers has been FAR from the best of them.

Hecht and Boyes = 7.5million in cap space... so there you go. Also Tyler Myers is better than McNabb in every way. Skating, passing, shooting, defensive play.

 

Myers: 3g, 4a 31hits 33bs -5

McNabb: 1g 3a 40hits 24bs -4

 

and the age difference is 1 whole year... how about we keep both and in 3 years we can have a Suter/Weber pair on our team.

 

This is the thread that could go forever. Really, this is pretty much an even up trade as far as value is concerned (at least IMO it is even). Opinion is going to be split.

 

 

Oh, and Liger, I'd be really tempted to take your bet if there was a rational way you could make a better-worse comparison among the two.

Yes i suppose there is no real way to tally that up in the end but maybe sometime in 3 years or so we could revisit this idea.

[thesportsbuff]

I have to admit that my initial thinking was forwards and build from there because scoring was always more fancy. With the way goaltending is going I now see defense is more important. If we can get goaltending back to where we were, now not without Miller or Enroth because I think they can do the duty but I would keep defense as currently structured. I think you can take us far if we were to have a veteran leader Centerman. IMO

 

Our defense is fine with or without Myers. People want to blame all the teams' problems on our defense. The defense can't perform well if the offense isn't generating offense. When the puck is in our zone for 70% of every period, ALL skaters (defensemen AND forwards) are going to be fatigued and more prone to making mistakes. If our offense could sustain ANY kind of pressure, our defense would look a lot better.

 

If Getzlaf can help fix that problem... which he likely can, or at least help to... I'm fine with trading Myers for him.

[Weave]

At 21 years old, I still consider Myers a bit of a prospect. You assume he's going to be the next Chara-- that's your prospective opinion on him. Unless you think he's done developing and is the player he is going to be for the rest of his career -- then he is no longer a prospect.

 

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

 

I think you are overstating McNabb's play and understating Myers'. By a good bit too. McNabb's play has been a pleasant surprise, but I doubt teams are gameplanning him the way they undoubtedly gameplan for Myers.

[thesportsbuff]

Hecht and Boyes = 7.5million in cap space... so there you go. Also Tyler Myers is better than McNabb in every way. Skating, passing, shooting, defensive play. Myers: 3g, 4a 31hits 33bs -5 McNabb: 1g 3a 40hits 24bs -4 and the age difference is 1 whole year... how about we keep both and in 3 years we can have a Suter/Weber pair on our team. Yes i suppose there is no real way to tally that up in the end but maybe sometime in 3 years or so we could revisit this idea.

 

Hecht and Boyes = 7.5 mil... 5.5 of that is going to Myers next year when his extension kicks in. The rest, and more, is (presumably) going to Ennis, Kaleta, and probably Gaustad or another third/fourth line center.

 

Try again.

[LGR4GM]

At 21 years old, I still consider Myers a bit of a prospect. You assume he's going to be the next Chara-- that's your prospective opinion on him. Unless you think he's done developing and is the player he is going to be for the rest of his career -- then he is no longer a prospect.

 

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

Everything in the above post is a lie and incorrect. I have never said Myers is the next chara and i hope he is more likely the next Weber.

 

Umm no its crazy to say a player magically stops growing and is suddenly not this or that. Myers is young but a prospect is defined as a non nhl rostered player whose potential or abilities are completely unknown. McNabb is a prospect because he hasn't even completed a rookie season and we have no idea what he can do. Myers we know what he can do and I am sorry but the last 41 games of last season he played great hockey.

 

Prove somewhere somehow that McNabb has outperformed anyone? HAHAHAHA YOU CAN'T

[Ross Rhea]

At 21 years old, I still consider Myers a bit of a prospect. You assume he's going to be the next Chara-- that's your prospective opinion on him. Unless you think he's done developing and is the player he is going to be for the rest of his career -- then he is no longer a prospect.

 

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

 

If he has been so terrible as you suggest, why would a GM move a top 5 center straight up for him?

 

I'm thinking every GM in the league would give up just about anything to get Myers. Why is that?

 

To think you call him terrible, and many here have absolutely no problem and wouldn't second guess shipping him out.

 

6'8" defensemen with good scoring and great skating ability do not just grow on trees.

[thesportsbuff]

I think you are overstating McNabb's play and understating Myers'. By a good bit too. McNabb's play has been a pleasant surprise, but I doubt teams are gameplanning him the way they undoubtedly gameplan for Myers.

 

I don't think Myers has been anywhere close to our best defenseman this season. Granted he's been injured, but when healthy, he has not been much of an impact player. McNabb has been pretty good. Also not our best defenseman this season, but his mistakes have been limited and he plays like he has a pair. If it comes down to two guys who both have a tendency to make rookie mistakes, I'll take the guy who is at least going to hit somebody and make them work to get to the net.

 

If he has been so terrible as you suggest, why would a GM move a top 5 center straight up for him?

 

I'm thinking every GM in the league would give up just about anything to get Myers.

 

To think you call him terrible, and many here have absolutely no problem and wouldn't second guess shipping him out.

 

6'8" defensemen with good scoring and great skating ability do just grow on trees.

 

Because he is a prospect with great potential... his value is based solely on his potential, not so much performance.

 

Everything in the above post is a lie and incorrect. I have never said Myers is the next chara and i hope he is more likely the next Weber.

 

Umm no its crazy to say a player magically stops growing and is suddenly not this or that. Myers is young but a prospect is defined as a non nhl rostered player whose potential or abilities are completely unknown. McNabb is a prospect because he hasn't even completed a rookie season and we have no idea what he can do. Myers we know what he can do and I am sorry but the last 41 games of last season he played great hockey.

 

Prove somewhere somehow that McNabb has outperformed anyone? HAHAHAHA YOU CAN'T

 

Why do you act like such a little kid on here?

 

Myers played well for the last half of last season... not great, not spectacular. Adequate. Regher is better defensively, Ehrhoff is virtually a wash as far as offensive ability goes. Myers is expendable. We have plenty of NHL talent on our defense.

 

Trading Myers certainly takes our defense down a notch or two, I'm not saying he's worthless.. but adding Getzlaf takes our offense up five notches... especially if it pans out where he helps players like Stafford, Leino, Boyes, etc to play harder and play to their potential. Lindy Ruff can sit there and "coach" these guys how to play hard, go to the net, etc etc... but until somebody comes in and shows them how to, they won't. It's been proven by... the last 5 seasons. Getzlaf will lead by example.

[LGR4GM]

I don't think Myers has been anywhere close to our best defenseman this season. Granted he's been injured, but when healthy, he has not been much of an impact player. McNabb has been pretty good. Also not our best defenseman this season, but his mistakes have been limited and he plays like he has a pair. If it comes down to two guys who both have a tendency to make rookie mistakes, I'll take the guy who is at least going to hit somebody and make them work to get to the net.

 

 

 

Because he is a prospect with great potential... his value is based solely on his potential, not so much performance.

 

 

 

Why do you act like such a little kid on here?

 

Myers played well for the last half of last season... not great, not spectacular. Adequate. Regher is better defensively, Ehrhoff is virtually a wash as far as offensive ability goes. Myers is expendable. We have plenty of NHL talent on our defense.

 

Trading Myers certainly takes our defense down a notch or two, I'm not saying he's worthless.. but adding Getzlaf takes our offense up five notches... especially if it pans out where he helps players like Stafford, Leino, Boyes, etc to play harder and play to their potential. Lindy Ruff can sit there and "coach" these guys how to play hard, go to the net, etc etc... but until somebody comes in and show them how to, they won't. It's been proven by... the last 5 seasons. Getzlaf will lead by example.

So your rebuttal is the "you act like a kid line?"

 

Basically what I can gather from your statements is that you are conjecturing that Myers is not that good or an impact player and that only McNabb hits people. Both assumptions are incorrect and nothing more than opinion based off of nothing at all. Watching games, how often do you see McNabb do more than just hit? He is young and he seems to be nothing but a more offensive and larger version of Mike Weber. I hope he out grows that and is more of a Shea Weber. Tyler Myers however is better, has played better, and will be better in the future.

 

I also find it intriguing I am the "kid" when you used the "ahahaha. That's a good one" line in your previous post. You see I was referencing that indirectly in my post.

[Ross Rhea]

I don't think Myers has been anywhere close to our best defenseman this season. Granted he's been injured, but when healthy, he has not been much of an impact player. McNabb has been pretty good. Also not our best defenseman this season, but his mistakes have been limited and he plays like he has a pair. If it comes down to two guys who both have a tendency to make rookie mistakes, I'll take the guy who is at least going to hit somebody and make them work to get to the net.

 

 

 

Because he is a prospect with great potential... his value is based solely on his potential, not so much performance.

 

 

 

Why do you act like such a little kid on here?

 

Myers played well for the last half of last season... not great, not spectacular. Adequate. Regher is better defensively, Ehrhoff is virtually a wash as far as offensive ability goes. Myers is expendable. We have plenty of NHL talent on our defense.

 

Trading Myers certainly takes our defense down a notch or two, I'm not saying he's worthless.. but adding Getzlaf takes our offense up five notches... especially if it pans out where he helps players like Stafford, Leino, Boyes, etc to play harder and play to their potential. Lindy Ruff can sit there and "coach" these guys how to play hard, go to the net, etc etc... but until somebody comes in and shows them how to, they won't. It's been proven by... the last 5 seasons. Getzlaf will lead by example.

 

?? Not that it matters but I consider a prospect someone down on the farm or has only played a small handful of games in the bigs (Kassian, Foligno, McNabb, etc) not Myers. Myers is in his 3rd year pushing 200 games played in the bigs.

[K-9]

...Trading Myers certainly takes our defense down a notch or two, I'm not saying he's worthless.. but adding Getzlaf takes our offense up five notches... especially if it pans out where he helps players like Stafford, Leino, Boyes, etc to play harder and play to their potential. Lindy Ruff can sit there and "coach" these guys how to play hard, go to the net, etc etc... but until somebody comes in and shows them how to, they won't. It's been proven by... the last 5 seasons. Getzlaf will lead by example.

 

I wish I shared your optimism about Stafford. He's been in the league over 5 years, is an alternate C, and HE has to be shown how to do it? I'm sorry but when you attain your status as a team leader after having a good season to earn that nice contract, you have to be the one who does the SHOWING vs. being the one who has to be shown what to do.

 

GO SABRES!!!

[HopefulFuture]

This is the thread that could go forever. Really, this is pretty much an even up trade as far as value is concerned (at least IMO it is even). Opinion is going to be split.

 

 

Oh, and Liger, I'd be really tempted to take your bet if there was a rational way you could make a better-worse comparison among the two.

 

If your speaking about Myers for Getzlaf straight up being fair value then your way off.

Myers just signed a very nice contract for a length of time, Getzlaf has a year left.

The value isn't even close.

[biodork]

At 21 years old, I still consider Myers a bit of a prospect. You assume he's going to be the next Chara-- that's your prospective opinion on him. Unless you think he's done developing and is the player he is going to be for the rest of his career -- then he is no longer a prospect.

 

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

 

Of course we'll never know for sure, but it's my opinion that a good bit of Myers' growing pains last season were due to the departure of Tallinder and suddenly being on the top D pairing.

 

I think you are overstating McNabb's play and understating Myers'. By a good bit too. McNabb's play has been a pleasant surprise, but I doubt teams are gameplanning him the way they undoubtedly gameplan for Myers.

 

Agreed on both counts.

 

If he has been so terrible as you suggest, why would a GM move a top 5 center straight up for him?

 

I'm thinking every GM in the league would give up just about anything to get Myers. Why is that?

 

To think you call him terrible, and many here have absolutely no problem and wouldn't second guess shipping him out.

 

6'8" defensemen with good scoring and great skating ability do not just grow on trees.

 

Also agreed on all counts.

[HopefulFuture]

I don't think Myers has been anywhere close to our best defenseman this season. Granted he's been injured, but when healthy, he has not been much of an impact player. McNabb has been pretty good. Also not our best defenseman this season, but his mistakes have been limited and he plays like he has a pair. If it comes down to two guys who both have a tendency to make rookie mistakes, I'll take the guy who is at least going to hit somebody and make them work to get to the net.

 

 

 

Because he is a prospect with great potential... his value is based solely on his potential, not so much performance.

 

 

 

Why do you act like such a little kid on here?

 

Myers played well for the last half of last season... not great, not spectacular. Adequate. Regher is better defensively, Ehrhoff is virtually a wash as far as offensive ability goes. Myers is expendable. We have plenty of NHL talent on our defense.

 

Trading Myers certainly takes our defense down a notch or two, I'm not saying he's worthless.. but adding Getzlaf takes our offense up five notches... especially if it pans out where he helps players like Stafford, Leino, Boyes, etc to play harder and play to their potential. Lindy Ruff can sit there and "coach" these guys how to play hard, go to the net, etc etc... but until somebody comes in and shows them how to, they won't. It's been proven by... the last 5 seasons. Getzlaf will lead by example.

 

Once again, another poster who is way off when you attempt to size up the value of this trade.

Getzlaf is only signed for another year, the value for Myers and Getzlaf swap isn't even close.

[thesportsbuff]

?? Not that it matters but I consider a prospect someone down on the farm or has only played a small handful of games in the bigs (Kassian, Foligno, McNabb, etc) not Myers. Myers is in his 3rd year pushing 200 games played in the bigs.

 

Bicker over the definition if you want. To me a prospect is a young player, under 23ish, who hasn't reached their full potential or is expected to grow into a better player. He's 21 years old. The only reason Anaheim would be interested in this deal is because of the prospective growth of Myers, not his performance in the short time he's spent in the league.

 

So your rebuttal is the "you act like a kid line?"

 

Basically what I can gather from your statements is that you are conjecturing that Myers is not that good or an impact player and that only McNabb hits people. Both assumptions are incorrect and nothing more than opinion based off of nothing at all. Watching games, how often do you see McNabb do more than just hit? He is young and he seems to be nothing but a more offensive and larger version of Mike Weber. I hope he out grows that and is more of a Shea Weber. Tyler Myers however is better, has played better, and will be better in the future.

 

There's no doubt Myers will likely be better than McNabb in the future... right now, McNabb is playing bigger than Myers. He hits well and has for the most part played as well as, if not better, defensively.

 

Anyway, it's about your bed time. Go have mommy tuck you in and come back tomorrow when you're feeling less cranky. Not everything on this board has to turn into an argument... but for you, it does.

[beerme1]

For me, I have two virtual untouchables on this team and one of them is Myers.

 

Me too. Two guys that I consider untouchable. Myers and the other for me is McNabb. I see this duo as a tower of power for 10 years. I really dont want to ###### that up.

(This is your brain)

 

We are desperate for # 1 center and deep on D. You gotta give something to get something. We're dealing from a position of strength for one that is our weakest on the team. There will be off season movement. We will gain cap space by guys leaving. Surely to god someone will take the Roy bait in the off season if not sooner. A Getzlaf doesn't become available that often.

(This is your brain on drugs and what it feels like to be Darcy)

 

If Darcy does a better job than we're not even in this position but here we are.

The Tower of power duo for 10 years, or take a chance on a scratch off lotto ticket and hope.

 

On a last note, Jesus Miller start playing like a consistent nhl'er and fix yourself. You alone should mean we aren't in this position. Oh that reminds me, you're available. What can i get for you now???

[stenbaro]

Absolutely. I consider McNabb a better prospect than Myers right now.

 

 

 

There is no reward to that game. We need a big move. Having a REAL center could make our Staffords and Leino play like real players.

 

 

 

That's an alternative, sure. So was Brad Richards, and Pegula & Co. backed out of even meeting with him. It's going to be the same bidding war for Parise and there's no guarantee we win it. Then where's that leave us?

 

 

 

LMao, they turned down Kane for Myers straight up... sure they did. Source?

Lyao all u want It happened....If you want my source Pm me...I more than guarantee your satisfaction....

[thesportsbuff]

I wish I shared your optimism about Stafford. He's been in the league over 5 years, is an alternate C, and HE has to be shown how to do it? I'm sorry but when you attain your status as a team leader after having a good season to earn that nice contract, you have to be the one who does the SHOWING vs. being the one who has to be shown what to do.

 

GO SABRES!!!

 

Stafford has a 30 goal season under his belt, Boyes has a 40 goal season under his belt. Leino has a 19 goal season. It's not like these guys forgot how to play hockey. They need somebody to step up and be a leader and show them how to get it done. And help them get it done.

 

Once again, another poster who is way off when you attempt to size up the value of this trade.

Getzlaf is only signed for another year, the value for Myers and Getzlaf swap isn't even close.

 

Getzlaf is signed for one more year. Hopefully we replace Darcy this off-season then so he doesn't botch the negotiations before the following July.

[K-9]

Stafford has a 30 goal season under his belt, Boyes has a 40 goal season under his belt. Leino has a 19 goal season. It's not like these guys forgot how to play hockey. They need somebody to step up and be a leader and show them how to get it done. And help them get it done.

 

I'll just say that if ANY of those three players still have to be shown what to do to be a professional both on the ice and off, then I prefer none of them on my team.

 

But the more imortant question to me is what is wrong with Getzlaf this season? Nobody else seems to be concerned about the down season he's having. Like I asked upthread, if he's part of the problem in Anaheim how can we be sure he'd be part of the solution in Buffalo? I think it's a legit question.

 

GO SABRES!!!

[billsrcursed]

I'll just say that if ANY of those three players still have to be shown what to do to be a professional both on the ice and off, then I prefer none of them on my team.

 

But the more imortant question to me is what is wrong with Getzlaf this season? Nobody else seems to be concerned about the down season he's having. Like I asked upthread, if he's part of the problem in Anaheim how can we be sure he'd be part of the solution in Buffalo? I think it's a legit question.

 

GO SABRES!!!

 

Nobody's paying attention because it doesn't work for our dreams.... stop pissing on our fantasy!!!! Facts be damned!!

 

This trade really doesn't make any sense, mostly because of the contract situations. Getzlaf's play this year should be a red flag for sure. Great point.

[LGR4GM]

Bicker over the definition if you want. To me a prospect is a young player, under 23ish, who hasn't reached their full potential or is expected to grow into a better player. He's 21 years old. The only reason Anaheim would be interested in this deal is because of the prospective growth of Myers, not his performance in the short time he's spent in the league.

 

 

 

There's no doubt Myers will likely be better than McNabb in the future... right now, McNabb is playing bigger than Myers. He hits well and has for the most part played as well as, if not better, defensively.

 

Anyway, it's about your bed time. Go have mommy tuck you in and come back tomorrow when you're feeling less cranky. Not everything on this board has to turn into an argument... but for you, it does.

..but I am the kid, intriguing. Is it frustrating that you have nothing to prove your point of view? Myers plays better than McNabb, hands down. Running guys over does make a defender better. Myers is strong on the puck. He can skate up ice and make good outlet passes and since his benching he has played much better hockey on a bad team. McNabb hits. He passes okay and his offense is eh. Myers is better than McNabb.

 

Myers is to Weber as McNabb is to Suter (or there about)

 

 

Stafford has a 30 goal season under his belt, Boyes has a 40 goal season under his belt. Leino has a 19 goal season. It's not like these guys forgot how to play hockey. They need somebody to step up and be a leader and show them how to get it done. And help them get it done.

Players have seasons that are outliers of their actual potential. Stafford I believe had that with his 30g and boyes with his 40g season respectively. If they both need a guy to step up and "lead" then they need to go because everyone should be leading. Thats the problem, we don't need 1 leader we need everyone to lead and help and actually be a team.

[nfreeman]

Parise is a nice player. He just doesn't bring the physical presence a Getzlaf does. Parise would be the best player on the Sabres, no doubt.

 

I agree -- Getzlaf is better. But I'd rather have Parise PLUS Myers than Getzlaf.

 

That isn't a sure thing though. We could (and should) move Roy, Staff, Leo (well maybe) and then lose out in the Parise auction. If we take the report at face value, we have a sure thing path to an elite/near elite center with size, agression, and leadership. Parise is alot of maybes. Maybe he doesn;t get signed by NJ. Maybe Buffalo is the highest bidder. Maybe Parise doesn;t have a preferred team already selected.

 

The only reason right now that I might reconsider Myers for Getzlaf is Getz's contract status.

 

Myers vs Getzlaf is pretty close to even up over the next 5 yrs IMO. Getzlaf > "The Others" by themselves all day long. Hands down.

 

Good post. Getzlaf's contract though makes him a pretty unsure thing too.

 

Absolutely not. Cut off nose to spite face kind of trade. The same people saying to do the deal are the ones that will be crying about it in a couple years saying I wish we had a player like Myers. Myers is NOT the problem with this team. I know you need to give up somethingto get something. We have plenty of other young prospects that would be of great value to any team. Think about those guys first in a trade scenario with anyteam.

 

We can think about those guys first all we want, but if we want a guy like Getzlaf in trade, Myers or Vanek is the price. Don't kid yourself.

 

Because none of them bring what Getzlaf brings. And there is only one that is even close to Getzlaf in terms of potential impact to our team. And none of them are sure things to end up on our roster.

 

Besides, why does it have to be an either - or thing? Why not go out and get our dominant center AND get more talent via FA?

 

There are no high-quality UFA defensemen this summer. Parise is pretty close to an elite UFA forward. Unload some of the dead weight, pick new leaders, bring in Parise, bring in a couple of additional character vets, get Miller back to form and we're in business.

 

We won't be crying because McNabb will be back in our end taking names on a regular basis. No one said Myers was the problem - our problem is a lack of anything that resembles a good center. The winner of any trade is the team who gets the better player - Getzlaf is the better player, both now and the near future. Long term it could most likely be a wash. Our defense is deep and mediocre even with Myers - I would do this all day long and not look back.

 

It's hard to argue with this, but at the same time you can't ignore the contract issue. It would be a catastrophe to trade Myers for Getzlaf and them have him bolt as a UFA one season later.

 

All 3 groups(forwards, defense & goaltending) have all been underwhelming with the exception of a few indivuduals.

 

Abso-fricken-lutely.

 

Absolutely. I consider McNabb a better prospect than Myers right now.

 

That's an alternative, sure. So was Brad Richards, and Pegula & Co. backed out of even meeting with him. It's going to be the same bidding war for Parise and there's no guarantee we win it. Then where's that leave us?

Furthermore, McNabb has outperformed Myers substantially. Myers had a great rookie year and has been terrible ever since. You call him our best defenseman.... hahahahaha. That's a good one.

 

Are you on drugs?

 

Everything in the above post is a lie and incorrect. I have never said Myers is the next chara and i hope he is more likely the next Weber.

 

Umm no its crazy to say a player magically stops growing and is suddenly not this or that. Myers is young but a prospect is defined as a non nhl rostered player whose potential or abilities are completely unknown. McNabb is a prospect because he hasn't even completed a rookie season and we have no idea what he can do. Myers we know what he can do and I am sorry but the last 41 games of last season he played great hockey.

 

Prove somewhere somehow that McNabb has outperformed anyone? HAHAHAHA YOU CAN'T

 

I agree with you on the substance here, but you need to communicate better than this.

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I'll just say that if ANY of those three players still have to be shown what to do to be a professional both on the ice and off, then I prefer none of them on my team.

 

But the more imortant question to me is what is wrong with Getzlaf this season? Nobody else seems to be concerned about the down season he's having. Like I asked upthread, if he's part of the problem in Anaheim how can we be sure he'd be part of the solution in Buffalo? I think it's a legit question.

 

 

Great, great post. Boyes and Stafford are two players who have HAD a good season once upon a time. We want the Sabres to add a third player like that? Talk about going in circles.

 

Myers was out for nearly two months, and he looked good in his few games back so far. His job, primarily, is to defend and he does that well. The Sabres have lost games by not scoring, and by having mediocre goal-tending, not lack of D.

 

The D corp the Sabres have, if the team were positive, confident, and competent, would be amazing if you add McNabb and subtract MAGs.

 

If they can't move Roy and Stafford before the deadline, then I guess they'll have to tinker with the roster in the off-season because removing those two will make a big difference IMHO. Boyes and Hecht can go their merry ways. Gaustad, too. Ennis and Kaleta are done after this year.

 

Hmm, let's see: Boyes, Hecht, Gaustad, Ennis, Kaleta, and MAGs all have expiring contracts. Wow. I wouldn't re-sign a one. If they can move Roy somehow in the off-season - what a nice clean-up of the roster. Bonus points for moving Stafford, too. Double-bonus points for getting a good first-rounder to put in Rochester. Oh yeah, I don't want Darcy making the choice during that draft, move him somewhere far from the GM's desk so all of this goes down.

[thesportsbuff]

Are you on drugs?

 

I'm high on reality, bro. Myers hasn't been that good. Again, not saying he won't be, not saying he's a bust. But his trade value is based on his POTENTIAL, not his mediocre play in the NHL. The only year he stood out was his rookie year... he was horrendously bad the first half of last season and hasn't been an impact player in more than a handful of games this year... he isn't an elite player yet. And most importantly, he's the biggest and softest player on the roster at the same time. Five years from now, Myers will be a great player in the league. Right now, McNabb's play is more important to this team than Myers, if moving Myers mean gaining a #1 center.

 

Oh yeah, I don't want Darcy making the choice during that draft, move him somewhere far from the GM's desk so all of this goes down.

 

You don't want Darcy making the pick? The guy who drafted Myers, Ennis, Kassian, McNabb, Tropp, Vanek, Miller... lots of good picks lately for Darcy. Why doubt him?

[...]

You don't want Darcy making the pick? The guy who drafted Myers, Ennis, Kassian, McNabb, Tropp, Vanek, Miller... lots of good picks lately for Darcy. Why doubt him?

 

Because the team sucks right now. And the team has been soft since Briere/Drury. Quite obviously, there is more to assembling a team than looking at stats, and it's over Darcy's head.

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Once again, Myers is overrated. We have defensemen better than him. We have the chance to get what we need, a center. We can't sit around waiting and thinking we could've had Getzlaf bc Myers didn't get better. We need to make this move, the next 10 seasons rely on it.