RazielSabre Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 "We’re keenly aware of the frustration because everyone in our locker room feels the same way – coaches, everybody. Obviously, they’re not pleased with the way the season is going.” Injuries: “This is not an excuse. This is a fact of life. This is not your Buffalo Sabres. I’m not putting down the guys that came in. But guys like Corey Tropp, Colin Stuart, Zack Kassian, Marcus Foligno – they would have never come up to Buffalo this year unless something crazy happened. It’s the sheer volume, the names.” On DR: “My attitude is the same as it was at the beginning of the season. No. 1, the whole world thinks you’re going to get a star player for nothing. These other GMs might have been born at night, but they weren’t born last night. If you want to trade for a quality player or someone who can help your lineup, well, guess what? You might have to give your future away. As far as making deals, especially when they know you’re season isn’t going as well as projected, they try to pick you even worse.” Playoffs? “It’s not impossible when you know you were 10-5 at one point. You know you can win hockey games. Obviously, part of what goes on, is that there’s new faces are in the lineup every night. Everybody says, ‘Well, the goalies are having a bad year.’ Sometimes, [the goaltenders] look in front of them and it’s like a revolving door.” “I’m not going to say anybody is getting stale until we put the team together. They came out of the chute 5-1 and were looking pretty good.” Thats a little better. See what happens. If they are acknowledging their under pressure it's just a case of a couple of guys getting the confidence back, if they believe they can do it we'll own the rest of the season. EDIT: Thinking about it no-one has said alot about Ruff's security, unless I'm missing something.
Doohicksie Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I have more trust in Obama than in Terry at the moment. Just sayin'.
Claude_Verret Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 On DR: “My attitude is the same as it was at the beginning of the season. No. 1, the whole world thinks you’re going to get a star player for nothing. These other GMs might have been born at night, but they weren’t born last night. If you want to trade for a quality player or someone who can help your lineup, well, guess what? You might have to give your future away. As far as making deals, especially when they know you’re season isn’t going as well as projected, they try to pick you even worse.” I wouldn't mind if Darcy got semi-fleeced in order to rid ourselves of Stafford and maybe Roy.
RazielSabre Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I wouldn't mind if Darcy got semi-fleeced in order to rid ourselves of Stafford and maybe Roy. Keep wishing...
LGR4GM Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I have little to no doubt in my mind that before this is all said and done, Terry will make the changes needed and we will win a Stanley cup under his ownership and leadership. For now, I will wait.
That Aud Smell Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 someone just stopped me in my tracks at the office water cooler (i am assuming he heard this theory on GR?): what if pegula's talk with gleason was, at least in part, a calculated PR maneuver following pegula's far more candid (and sort of scorching) comments following the blowout loss to pittsburgh in december? what if black and darcy circled back with their boss after he said that stuff (didn't he say "jessie couldn't have done much worse" than miller?) and said words to the effect of "look, we're trying to right the ship and make some moves, if those moves make sense. but if the rest of the league knows that we have an owner that's pissed off with his team, then that puts us in a much worse position when negotiating potential deals." it's not implausible that pegula's words were intended to give off a "what me worry?" message. at this point, i will take what i can get in the hope department.
apuszczalowski Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Good luck guys. You have been nice to put up with some of my antics over time, but I seriously used to love the Buffalo Sabres. The people of the city are still great, and I wish everyone here the best. There are tons of good people on this board. It's over. I don't mind going against a politico who is trying to line his pockets, but I can't wait out a $3 billion manchild who has nice intentions. He seems like a good guy and all, but if I want a tearjerker, I'll watch Dinner for Schmucks again. For the sake of the city, I hope these a-holes go on a 40 game win streak and shove a hot poker up me.......but I have wasted so much time over the years just looking for an honest effort. That's all I asked. I'm going to read the board, but there is nothing left to be said. I'm sorry for you guys who still live and die by them. I never meant to ruin your fun. Seriously.....if I knew it would end like this, I would have never said a blessed word. I am sorry. I am truly...truly sorry. You really into torturing yourself?
shrader Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 someone just stopped me in my tracks at the office water cooler (i am assuming he heard this theory on GR?): what if pegula's talk with gleason was, at least in part, a calculated PR maneuver following pegula's far more candid (and sort of scorching) comments following the blowout loss to pittsburgh in december? what if black and darcy circled back with their boss after he said that stuff (didn't he say "jessie couldn't have done much worse" than miller?) and said words to the effect of "look, we're trying to right the ship and make some moves, if those moves make sense. but if the rest of the league knows that we have an owner that's pissed off with his team, then that puts us in a much worse position when negotiating potential deals." it's not implausible that pegula's words were intended to give off a "what me worry?" message. at this point, i will take what i can get in the hope department. That's far more than just theory. Until something actually happens, the people in question are still Buffalo Sabres. Do you really want to alienate them while they're still wearing the uniform and playing games? Of course not. You want to get the most out of them while they're here. So until the moment Lindy is fired or Roy is traded, I don't want to hear a single person from the team utter the phrase "We're going to fire/trade Lindy/Roy". It's counterproductive.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Godd is torturing himself watching dinner witht the shmucks we r torturing ourselves watching these shmucks play pussyfoot hockey (null)
apuszczalowski Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 14 years. 14 YEARS!!!!! You can talk about shackles, injuries, no goal calls and a plethora of other excuses, but in the end these two have had 14 F-ing years to produce and have not acheived the ultimate prize that this city craves. Enough already. We are begging you Mr. Pegula, please start a real new era of Sabres hockey today. But you make it sound like the Last 14 years have been all about drafting #1 overall and they couldn't get anyworse. There are plenty of teams in the league that would love to have had the last 14 years the Sabres have had. In those 14 years they have been to the Cup Finals once, Conference finals 4 times, Won their only Presidents Trophy, Won 2 divisional championships and appeared in the playoffs 8 times. Also in that time frame, they have gone through 3 ownership changes (once while in Bankruptcy protection, that lead to a "fiscally responsible ownership"). Things look bad now, and changes are needed, but not just for the sake of change. I have said for years, Regier has to go, he just doesn't have the sack to be a good NHL GM, and now that the "shackle" excuse is gone, he has no excuse anymore for shying away from making deals. He should be the first to fall, then followed by a house cleaning of the "deadweight". If change isn't apparent from this, then its time to bring in a new coach. I can't think of a team that has not had as little player turnover as the Sabres over this last decade with replacements only coming in at the lower level (3rd/4th liners) That's far more than just theory. Until something actually happens, the people in question are still Buffalo Sabres. Do you really want to alienate them while they're still wearing the uniform and playing games? Of course not. You want to get the most out of them while they're here. So until the moment Lindy is fired or Roy is traded, I don't want to hear a single person from the team utter the phrase "We're going to fire/trade Lindy/Roy". It's counterproductive. Exactly, you never come out and say, we are definitly trading this player, just waiting for a deal to come our way.OR We are interviewing new coach/GM candidates right now so we can fire the current guy It may work for some players to motivate them, but honestly, I don't think that alot of the underachieving players here can be motivated by more then a contract (Stafford last year). I also think we really over value the guys in the top 6 here because we believed the hype about them when they came up. Problem is, I think most of them have peaked and overachieved, and probably need a change of scenery to get back to being close to what they were when they peaked.
BetterDays06 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Terry doesn't get on sabre space and read how upset we all our. Why doesnt someone get a large group and go down to the arena and have signs stating what you want done?
TheMadCap Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 This statement (to me at least) brings back thoughts of the early days of Pegula's ownership when he met with TBN's editorial board and essentially told them that the press was overly negative toward the team and that the "quit" was due to the negativity brought forth from TBN. Article this morning was pretty disheartening to anyone who feels that a shakeup is needed. Like others have said, perhaps bottoming out this year would be the best scenario (among the prospective eventualities) in that we'll get a high draft pick and possibly be cutting some dead weight in the process (the article does make me doubt this though). Still, having DR/LR at the helm makes even that possibility suboptimal. Hoping Pegulajet is just toeing the company line until a late season/offseason shakeup, but I'm not optimistic. Great avatar man!
shrader Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Terry doesn't get on sabre space and read how upset we all our. Why doesnt someone get a large group and go down to the arena and have signs stating what you want done? So you think that Pegula can't take the hint when Bucky asks him that question?
Tyrannustyrannus Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 TPegs didn't make billions without lighting some drinking water on fire. He's probably going to piss off some of us before we get what we want.
That Aud Smell Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 That's far more than just theory. Until something actually happens, the people in question are still Buffalo Sabres. Do you really want to alienate them while they're still wearing the uniform and playing games? Of course not. You want to get the most out of them while they're here. So until the moment Lindy is fired or Roy is traded, I don't want to hear a single person from the team utter the phrase "We're going to fire/trade Lindy/Roy". It's counterproductive. you're agreeing with me, so i'm going devil's advocate here: what should be made of how murray out in anaheim basically put his entire roster on the trading block, with that "they're deciding who's staying and who's not staying" quote? .... ... i guess if our entire roster had been substantially together this season, and was still in the spot it was in, then maybe pegula would've said something more along those lines. maybe. TPegs didn't make billions without lighting some drinking water on fire. He's probably going to piss off some of us before we get what we want. strong play, there.
shrader Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 you're agreeing with me, so i'm going devil's advocate here: what should be made of how murray out in anaheim basically put his entire roster on the trading block, with that "they're deciding who's staying and who's not staying" quote? .... ... i guess if our entire roster had been substantially together this season, and was still in the spot it was in, then maybe pegula would've said something more along those lines. maybe. I won't pretend to know the specifics of what is going on in Anahiem, but these dicussions here in Buffalo always seem to be focused on very specific people. You have Lindy and Darcy off the ice, and Roy-Stafford-Miller on the ice. You make that statement here, you are throwing those very people under the bus. The other thing that really stands out to me is that we're comparing the words of an owner to those of a GM. They have very different responsibilities. I think what d4rk is getting at here is key too. There are different ways of approaching this problem. There's the path Pegula took and there's the "you all suck, you better shape up or we'll boot your ass to the curb" approach. Both can work and both can backfire. Which is better? I don't think there's an answer to that question.
neverenough Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 I have more trust in Obama than in Terry at the moment. Just sayin'. Crap!
apuszczalowski Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 That's far more than just theory. Until something actually happens, the people in question are still Buffalo Sabres. Do you really want to alienate them while they're still wearing the uniform and playing games? Of course not. You want to get the most out of them while they're here. So until the moment Lindy is fired or Roy is traded, I don't want to hear a single person from the team utter the phrase "We're going to fire/trade Lindy/Roy". It's counterproductive. But he has shown he will do that Remember after the Pittsburgh game where he called out both goaltenders and said his daughter could play in net better?
shrader Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 But he has shown he will do that Remember after the Pittsburgh game where he called out both goaltenders and said his daughter could play in net better? And that's your difference between a spontaneous emotional reaction and a prepared statement.
That Aud Smell Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 what if pegula's talk with gleason was, at least in part, a calculated PR maneuver following pegula's far more candid (and sort of scorching) comments following the blowout loss to pittsburgh in december? what if black and darcy circled back with their boss after he said that stuff (didn't he say "jessie couldn't have done much worse" than miller?) and said words to the effect of "look, we're trying to right the ship and make some moves, if those moves make sense. but if the rest of the league knows that we have an owner that's pissed off with his team, then that puts us in a much worse position when negotiating potential deals." it's not implausible that pegula's words were intended to give off a "what me worry?" message. But he has shown he will do that Remember after the Pittsburgh game where he called out both goaltenders and said his daughter could play in net better? dude!
Bmwolf21 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 someone just stopped me in my tracks at the office water cooler (i am assuming he heard this theory on GR?): what if pegula's talk with gleason was, at least in part, a calculated PR maneuver following pegula's far more candid (and sort of scorching) comments following the blowout loss to pittsburgh in december? what if black and darcy circled back with their boss after he said that stuff (didn't he say "jessie couldn't have done much worse" than miller?) and said words to the effect of "look, we're trying to right the ship and make some moves, if those moves make sense. but if the rest of the league knows that we have an owner that's pissed off with his team, then that puts us in a much worse position when negotiating potential deals." it's not implausible that pegula's words were intended to give off a "what me worry?" message. at this point, i will take what i can get in the hope department. That's far more than just theory. Until something actually happens, the people in question are still Buffalo Sabres. Do you really want to alienate them while they're still wearing the uniform and playing games? Of course not. You want to get the most out of them while they're here. So until the moment Lindy is fired or Roy is traded, I don't want to hear a single person from the team utter the phrase "We're going to fire/trade Lindy/Roy". It's counterproductive. These two posts are the only things giving me hope that Terry isn't completely delusional or clueless about all this.
That Aud Smell Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 These two posts are the only things giving me hope that Terry isn't completely delusional or clueless about all this. i appreciate that, wolf. but, now that the initial stank is starting to wear off of pegula's remarks, you know what else should be giving us comfort? the fact that he's a billionaire with his heart in the right place when it comes to our team. if he's kinder and more patient with the team as currently constituted than we'd like him to be, i'm prepared to live with that. not saying i like it, but i can live with it.
Bullwinkle Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 TP's statements in the paper are the correct thing so say, regardless of how he really feels. If he's as much of a fan as most of us, he's very pisssed off. Regardless of his true feelings, he needs to say what's necessary to stop this team from falling under the bus. He's got to keep them going and performing as best he can. How else can he showcase players for a trade? So he blames the situation on external factors like injuries...conveniently ignoring the fact that we had injuries last season and it didn't slow us down at all. It's all political spin designed to keep the status quo for as long as possible until real changes can be made closer to the trade deadline. (we hope)
wonderbread Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Good luck guys. You have been nice to put up with some of my antics over time, but I seriously used to love the Buffalo Sabres. The people of the city are still great, and I wish everyone here the best. There are tons of good people on this board. It's over. I don't mind going against a politico who is trying to line his pockets, but I can't wait out a $3 billion manchild who has nice intentions. He seems like a good guy and all, but if I want a tearjerker, I'll watch Dinner for Schmucks again. For the sake of the city, I hope these a-holes go on a 40 game win streak and shove a hot poker up me.......but I have wasted so much time over the years just looking for an honest effort. That's all I asked. I'm going to read the board, but there is nothing left to be said. I'm sorry for you guys who still live and die by them. I never meant to ruin your fun. Seriously.....if I knew it would end like this, I would have never said a blessed word. I am sorry. I am truly...truly sorry. Don't let that Bastards get you down DD.
shrader Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 i appreciate that, wolf. but, now that the initial stank is starting to wear off of pegula's remarks, you know what else should be giving us comfort? the fact that he's a billionaire with his heart in the right place when it comes to our team. if he's kinder and more patient with the team as currently constituted than we'd like him to be, i'm prepared to live with that. not saying i like it, but i can live with it. Is his heart in the right place though. I can't tell if his heart is more into the history of the franchise or into winning. Crying when meeting Perreault? "Ruff's not going anywhere"? Those all look like his heart is leaning towards history to me.
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