TrueBlueGED Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 she's being sarcastic, referring to the point in the video (it was brought up originally in August or September I think) where Luke Adam gets a few love taps to the helmet from Lindy as Lindy is explaining stick control to the young players. I'd suggest going back and skimming over the thread to get an idea of what was said and what-not. DO a search for Lindy Ruff. The thread should be easy to find, and LGR was the one who originally uploaded the vid IIRC. Pro tip, now I feel dumb lol. Totally took the post in context of this thread (as in moving lines around). My bad.
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Pro tip, now I feel dumb lol. Totally took the post in context of this thread (as in moving lines around). My bad. It's all good.
That Aud Smell Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 what you speak of here she's being sarcastic, referring to the point in the video (it was brought up originally in August or September I think) where Luke Adam gets a few love taps to the helmet from Lindy as Lindy is explaining stick control to the young players. I'd suggest going back and skimming over the thread to get an idea of what was said and what-not. DO a search for Lindy Ruff. The thread should be easy to find, and LGR was the one who originally uploaded the vid IIRC. is linked upthread on this page here: for whatever it's worth, i resurrect GoDD's content re: how lindy was treating adam at development camp (~1:25 mark): http://forums.sabres...997#entry304997 i've said before that i think ghost goes off the rez with the inferences he draws and analogies he makes (and he eventually did with this one (see post #76)), but ... of late, i find myself drawn back to his thoughts on the subject. p.s. where'd the button go that allows us to embed youtube vids?
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 what you speak of here is linked upthread on this page here: that too... :blush: :oops:
SwampD Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 PhD, you can stand by all your fancy stats, but my eyes tell me that Vanek plays differently with Luke (and I'll say that before the game is over).
TrueBlueGED Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 PhD, you can stand by all your fancy stats, but my eyes tell me that Vanek plays differently with Luke (and I'll say that before the game is over). I'm not entirely disagreeing with the idea that the line looks better by the "eye test." The numbers simply say that Vanek and Pominville's production isn't related to Adam being on the line. Again, the numbers for Vanek even strength would indicate Adam had a slightly positive effect....but this is likely a statistical artifact of Adam being on his line when he was on one of his patented hot streaks (nobody can really argue that Vanek goes hot and cold over the course of a season). His shooting percentage early was unsustainable over the course of the season, whether he stayed with Adam or not. However, this doesn't mean there is no positive impact. If I had numbers on offensive zone time for the line, scoring chances, and the quality of shots generated a different picture may get painted. Again, just a subjective opinion, it does seem to me that the line generated greater sustained pressure with Adam at center as opposed to Hecht. If anybody knows a source for offensive/defensive zone time per player per game (preferably differentiating between even strength and special teams) and/or a measure of quality scoring chances per player per game, I'd be happy to re-estimate the analyses. Overall I may have overstated the previous results...all they really show is Adam's presence doesn't seem to be causing greater point production from the line. But there are other ways of looking at line combination effectiveness than simple point production.
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