Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I fully expect to be laughed at, but this is a pattern now so I am willing to not put it out jokingly but seriously. What are the odds he is pop from Marfan Syndrome? It's one thing to say that just because he is tall.....but if you do even a quick research there are warning signs. A lot of times it isn't diagnosed until early adulthood. It can have varying degrees. Here are some warning signs: The Buff News wrote an article early in the season that he was having unexplained fatigue and they were working on different things. That's what caught my attention. He has a long disproportional neck compared to the size of his face, he has a narrow and thin chest, he has long arms, I can't really tell his hand or foot build though. Skeletal features include weak wrists and abnormal healing time needed for broken bones. I am not sure how quickly the disease progresses when it comes to the circulatory system, but the fatigue thing really caught my eye on top of his physical appearance. I would think if he has a progressive form of this, we will see more and more issues crop up going forward and a short career. I have NO idea if this is the case, but he is a physical freak of nature in any case and that should always be met with open eyes. Like I said, I joked about it before, and yes the bone he broke can take time to heal. I'm in the "hmmmmnnnnn?...." stage right now. Maybe Wildnwooley44 can ask his buddy Macre if they ever looked into it. I think this is the first time I've been quoted on the forum. Marfans, hmmm, someone did well in anatomy and physiology I see ;) Well I cant say its out of the question, its one of those conditions that will require more testing, I haven't seen Tim since the baby was born, only his wife, but I will try and look into it. I don't have as much pull in medicine since im still in the beginning stages of my career, Ill talk with Dr. Aquino, he is the internal medicine doc for the sabres and a very brilliant guy next time I get a chance. I would think that the Sabres crack staff of MD's would have mentioned the possibility of this to Darcy before the Sabres presented a long term contract including a 10 million dollar bonus to Myers. The type of physical the players receive is not the same(or at least it shouldn't be) as me walking into my doctors office complaining of fatigue and a previously broken bone that is still hurting during my annual visit. Unfortunately medicine isn't a perfect science as of yet, rare diseases are often misdiagnosed or overlooked until real drastic signs are present. Society is getting much bigger in general height and weightwise, it would be nice to assume that Marfans was thought of, but it's not something as noticeable as maybe rheumatoid arthritis or another disease that jumps out at you
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I would think that the Sabres crack staff of MD's would have mentioned the possibility of this to Darcy before the Sabres presented a long term contract including a 10 million dollar bonus to Myers. The type of physical the players receive is not the same(or at least it shouldn't be) as me walking into my doctors office complaining of fatigue and a previously broken bone that is still hurting during my annual visit. I would hope they do echos on all of their players every year. We have discussed possible medical staff weakness in the past so I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. In reading up on Marfan, it says there are cases of many people being tall and agile and encouraged to keep going into sports and athletics because of it without knowing they have the underlying condition. Many times it isn't figured out until an aorta bursts or something else inside goes bad. It seems a simple diagnosis could be looked into by a thorough heart exam. An enlarged aorta is the main problem. Big guys in general can have enlarged hearts and valve problems in any regard. The writing of that article mentioning fatigue though........why make it public, no matter what the deal is? I hope it is just a passing thought, but considering I would be dead myself if I didn't push my doctors who weren't familiar with my million to one condition to dig deeper, I always look twice, even though in reality things are longshots. I think this is the first time I've been quoted on the forum. Marfans, hmmm, someone did well in anatomy and physiology I see ;) Well I cant say its out of the question, its one of those conditions that will require more testing, I haven't seen Tim since the baby was born, only his wife, but I will try and look into it. I don't have as much pull in medicine since im still in the beginning stages of my career, Ill talk with Dr. Aquino, he is the internal medicine doc for the sabres and a very brilliant guy next time I get a chance. Unfortunately medicine isn't a perfect science as of yet, rare diseases are often misdiagnosed or overlooked until real drastic signs are present. Society is getting much bigger in general height and weightwise, it would be nice to assume that Marfans was thought of, but it's not something as noticeable as maybe rheumatoid arthritis or another disease that jumps out at you Thanks......and if it turns out to be the case, please don't kill me when he retires!
Miller30 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Be sure to drink your Ovaltine! You'll shoot your eye out kid!
Samson's Flow Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 60% of the posts in this thread are unreadable. As are 60% of the Sabres games this year... :bag:
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I would hope they do echos on all of their players every year. We have discussed possible medical staff weakness in the past so I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. In reading up on Marfan, it says there are cases of many people being tall and agile and encouraged to keep going into sports and athletics because of it without knowing they have the underlying condition. Many times it isn't figured out until an aorta bursts or something else inside goes bad. It seems a simple diagnosis could be looked into by a thorough heart exam. An enlarged aorta is the main problem. Big guys in general can have enlarged hearts and valve problems in any regard. The writing of that article mentioning fatigue though........why make it public, no matter what the deal is? I hope it is just a passing thought, but considering I would be dead myself if I didn't push my doctors who weren't familiar with my million to one condition to dig deeper, I always look twice, even though in reality things are longshots. Thanks......and if it turns out to be the case, please don't kill me when he retires! Haha im not a vindictive guy, you're safe with me, hey who know, u may actually save a life ;)
wjag Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I fully expect to be laughed at, but this is a pattern now so I am willing to not put it out jokingly but seriously. What are the odds he is suffering from Marfan Syndrome? Okay i'll do it... baahahahbaahaha ... Good one...
LabattBlue Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I understand the love shown towards McNabb, but people seem to easily overlook the fact that he doesn't have the slightest clue right now of when it is appropriate to throw one of those checks. A big hit is fun and all, but when it takes him out of position and leads to an odd man rush the other way, that's trouble. These are rookie mistakes and he will learn, but right now it's very dangerous. I've said many times over the last month, that IMO, the best place for McNabb and Kassian is in Rochester for the remainder of this season. While neither has embarrassed themselves at the NHL level, they are not playing as great as some make them out to be. If the injury bug ever decides to let up, here is hoping the two of them get back to Rochester where they can play 20 minutes a game.
neverenough Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 You sit kassian but let Stafford play? Give me a break,this is a damn joke! I never heard of so many people in one place without direct tv. Come on folks
itbeatswalking Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Can somebody hook me up with a decent live feed for tonight's game? Hopefully will have DirecTV for Fridays matchup
SwampD Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 60% of the posts in this thread are unreadable. I like hockey.
... Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I've said many times over the last month, that IMO, the best place for McNabb and Kassian is in Rochester for the remainder of this season. While neither has embarrassed themselves at the NHL level, they are not playing as great as some make them out to be. If the injury bug ever decides to let up, here is hoping the two of them get back to Rochester where they can play 20 minutes a game. I think McNabb has been slightly more consistent, but I have to agree that there has been a downward slope since they have come up. If the Sabres were a legit top 5 team, I'd say keep them up to learn on the job, but as it is, or, rather, as the Sabres are, I think I've come around to agreeing that if necessary they both need to go back down. These two aren't learning anything beneficial right now by being up with the Sabres regulars.
darksabre Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I like hockey. Dang, I read your post. Could you include lots of capitalized words and exclamation marks so that I'll gloss over it next time? Thanks. ;)
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Leino's not playing tonight, but he will be signing autographs and hosting the pre-game tailgate tent party. Just in case anyone was interested.
nfreeman Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I understand the love shown towards McNabb, but people seem to easily overlook the fact that he doesn't have the slightest clue right now of when it is appropriate to throw one of those checks. A big hit is fun and all, but when it takes him out of position and leads to an odd man rush the other way, that's trouble. These are rookie mistakes and he will learn, but right now it's very dangerous. I agree with you conceptually but I think you're exaggerating a bit. He's been getting more and more PK and other minutes -- no doubt due in significant part to the injury bug but also due to pretty good defensive play. I've said many times over the last month, that IMO, the best place for McNabb and Kassian is in Rochester for the remainder of this season. While neither has embarrassed themselves at the NHL level, they are not playing as great as some make them out to be. If the injury bug ever decides to let up, here is hoping the two of them get back to Rochester where they can play 20 minutes a game. This is also hard to argue with conceptually but I do like the force and the edge that McNabb brings. If he's playing well enough to force his way into the lineup that is a good development for the Sabres.
Eleven Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Dammit, I just had to give up my tickets because of work. Oh, well. At least I have a radio in my office.
shrader Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I've said many times over the last month, that IMO, the best place for McNabb and Kassian is in Rochester for the remainder of this season. While neither has embarrassed themselves at the NHL level, they are not playing as great as some make them out to be. If the injury bug ever decides to let up, here is hoping the two of them get back to Rochester where they can play 20 minutes a game. And on top of that, like it or not, the money situation pretty much demands that they return there IF the team ever becomes fully healthy again. That could change with moves, but would those moves be worth it?
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Dammit, I just had to give up my tickets because of work. Oh, well. At least I have a radio in my office. Lame! Work is overrated! (says the guy who has been at work since 7:30 this morning, with no end in sight).
shrader Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I agree with you conceptually but I think you're exaggerating a bit. He's been getting more and more PK and other minutes -- no doubt due in significant part to the injury bug but also due to pretty good defensive play. Of course I'm exaggerating, but to me, it has been very obvious. The fans want someone who hits so badly that they're not willing to pay attention to when he's throwing those hits (or attempting them).
darksabre Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Of course I'm exaggerating, but to me, it has been very obvious. The fans want someone who hits so badly that they're not willing to pay attention to when he's throwing those hits (or attempting them). It's the Kaleta effect. He walked onto this team by killing dudes with his hits, and we all jumped on it because he was the only source of physical play on the team. Joe Finley wouldn't enamor us so much if guys like Goose and Stafford weren't so soft.
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 It's the Kaleta effect. He walked onto this team by killing dudes with his hits, and we all jumped on it because he was the only source of physical play on the team. Joe Finley wouldn't enamor us so much if guys like Goose and Stafford weren't so soft. Very true. It's sad that we were arguing over the summer (I say we very generally) if Stafford could become the power forward this team needed...and now we're back to discussing how soft he is. <_<
shrader Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 It's the Kaleta effect. He walked onto this team by killing dudes with his hits, and we all jumped on it because he was the only source of physical play on the team. Joe Finley wouldn't enamor us so much if guys like Goose and Stafford weren't so soft. But hey, at least McNabb doesn't jump directly into the opposing player's head with every hit.
frissonic Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 sweet. another hockey game. hot dog, hot dog ... hot diggity dog. it's a brand new day; whatcha waiting for? get up, stretch out, stomp on the floor ... hot dog hot dog hot diggity dog.
sabres1970 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 Looks like the alternate thirds tonight, boys
thesportsbuff Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 I think the idea of sending McNabb to Rochester is ridiculous. He has been very solid defensively, and as another poster pointed out, he's earned his time on the PK and against team's top units. For a rookie, he's made very few mistakes. I hear what shrader is saying about timing his hits -- the one where he tried to line up Ovechkin and missed led directly to a goal against. But that really hasn't happened all that often... a handful of times tops. Certainly McNabb's play the first half of this season was better than Myers' play the first half of last season. I think McNabb deserves to stay here more than Kassian, although I'm on the "don't send Kassian down" boat too. Haters gonna hate on Kassian, "1 point in 10 games!! Not good enough! Send him down!" McCormick has 2 points all damn season and, I love Cody as a player, what he's done for the team on several occasions the past few years has been invaluable -- but he really has no role on this team anymore. He has little-to-no actual hockey skills.. he's nothing but an undersized "enforcer." He doesn't even throw big hits very often... he just fights. Do we really need Cody in the lineup every night to be our designated fighter when guys like Gaustad, Kaleta, Kassian, Weber, and Regehr (and even Ehrhoff/Ellis proved they have a set lately) will fight when the situation calls for it? (Key words: "when the situation calls for it.") I think not.. Kaleta, also limited offensively, has a role. He DOES throw big hits, gets the fans going, sways momentum. He deserves a spot so long as he can stay healthy... but by having both him AND McCormick in your lineup, you are really losing the ol Lindy Ruff ability to "roll four lines." You can't roll four lines when one of them is comprised of three guys who can't score.
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