Eleven Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 I know I'm just an amateur, but doesn't it seem like DR has to do something? I don't think DR really thinks his job is secure no matter what happens, does he? I.e. doesn't he think that if the team continues on this pace and ends up #12 in the EC this year, he'll get canned? I guess I think DR wants to see how the team looks when Myers gets back, which sounds like it will be in the next week or so. Inconsistent or not, Myers is probably the best player on the team. So, I guess I think that if Myers gets back on, say, January 7, and the team still looks lousy on, say, January 20, DR will make a trade or 2. So I guess I think we're looking at another 3 weeks of this unbearable mediocrity without any action -- because at this point I don't see this group turning it around without any changes. DR most definitely needs to do something. Sounded to me, during a recent appearance on GR, that Ted is going to give him enough rope. If he pulls in a winner, great; if not, he hangs himself. Ted stated that the composition of the team is up to Darcy, and with that freedom comes responsiblity. As for waiting to see what the makeup of the team is with Myers, if that's what he's doing, he's batty. We know what the team looks like with Myers. It still looks like a team that needs a center. It still looks like a team with a lazy Stafford.
LabattBlue Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 As for waiting to see what the makeup of the team is with Myers, if that's what he's doing, he's batty. We know what the team looks like with Myers. It still looks like a team that needs a center. It still looks like a team with a lazy Stafford. Not addressing the center position since 7-1-07 either via trade, FA or #1 draft pick is maddening!
Eleven Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Not addressing the center position since 7-1-07 either via trade, FA or #1 draft pick is maddening! Well, that's not exactly how it went down. The team may have thought it had something in Connolly and Roy, and Quinn was in there meddling during most of that time. Certainly, under the prior regime, it wasn't going to spend big in a trade or FA scenario. That's why I give DR a pass for a lot, but not all, of what happened during the Golisano years. But now, with a clean slate and a new checkbook, he'd better do something. And I know he has to get creative with the cap to do it, but that's his job.
nfreeman Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Well, that's not exactly how it went down. The team may have thought it had something in Connolly and Roy, and Quinn was in there meddling during most of that time. Certainly, under the prior regime, it wasn't going to spend big in a trade or FA scenario. That's why I give DR a pass for a lot, but not all, of what happened during the Golisano years. But now, with a clean slate and a new checkbook, he'd better do something. And I know he has to get creative with the cap to do it, but that's his job. Agree 100%.
LabattBlue Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Well, that's not exactly how it went down. The team may have thought it had something in Connolly and Roy, and Quinn was in there meddling during most of that time. Certainly, under the prior regime, it wasn't going to spend big in a trade or FA scenario. That's why I give DR a pass for a lot, but not all, of what happened during the Golisano years. But now, with a clean slate and a new checkbook, he'd better do something. And I know he has to get creative with the cap to do it, but that's his job. A center addressed in FA did not have to be the high priced guy. Even a couple of 30-50 point centers would have helped instead of relying on Hecht or Gaustad to man the center position on any of the top 3 lines. DR knew all to well TC's injury history which made ignoring this position even worst. As far as the draft goes, how many years can you draft a defenseman with your #1 pick under the premise of BPA? It's not like you would be passing on the next Bobby Orr when picking in the 10-30 range. Granted in recent years, they drafted Sundher, Catenacci and Jacobs, but some higher end talent at the position wouldn't hurt.
Eleven Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 A center addressed in FA did not have to be the high priced guy. Even a couple of 30-50 point centers would have helped instead of relying on Hecht or Gaustad to man the center position on any of the top 3 lines. DR knew all to well TC's injury history which made ignoring this position even worst. As far as the draft goes, how many years can you draft a defenseman with your #1 pick under the premise of BPA? It's not like you would be passing on the next Bobby Orr when picking in the 10-30 range. Granted in recent years, they drafted Sundher, Catenacci and Jacobs, but some higher end talent at the position wouldn't hurt. Do you remember how we all wanted him to draft defensemen? Anyway, he still needs to do something now. We're in agreement on that.
LabattBlue Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Do you remember how we all wanted him to draft defensemen? Yes. I wanted "physical" defenseman unlike the ones he continues to draft...which is just about all of them except for McNabb. :rolleyes:
TheChimp Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Yes. I wanted "physical" defenseman unlike the ones he continues to draft...which is just about all of them except for McNabb. :rolleyes: See, it's this kind of tunnel vision that bothers me. Robyn Regehr WAS a physical defenseman. As in, people in the West were SCARED to come in on him in his zone. But just like every other player that has had the misfortune to come play in Lindy Ruff's system, he has mysteriously softened up his game in favor of....whetever it is that Lindy is having them all do instead of scare people with crushing hits. McNabb's time will come, too, just wait for him to be comfortably in the lineup. He'll be just another marshmallow man.
nfreeman Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I say again: doesn't DR have to do something? This team created zero scoring chances in the first period tonight against a mediocre Washington team. At one point in the 2nd period, they were losing 2-0 and had a grand total of 4 shots on goal for the game, 2 of which were by Marvelous Matt Ellis. How many 3-1 losses are there going to be before DR trades someone to shake it up?
deluca67 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 I say again: doesn't DR have to do something? This team created zero scoring chances in the first period tonight against a mediocre Washington team. At one point in the 2nd period, they were losing 2-0 and had a grand total of 4 shots on goal for the game, 2 of which were by Marvelous Matt Ellis. How many 3-1 losses are there going to be before DR trades someone to shake it up? We have all heard the Regier mantra of not changing your team during the season. That is 100% Regier. If any change is made it needs to be mandated by Pegula.
TheChimp Posted December 31, 2011 Report Posted December 31, 2011 Pegula's busy. We should wait til after fracking season. ;)
Sherman Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I can't imagine a Miller/Getzlaf trade for a host of reasons. However just to play along, Buffalo would need a goalie back and Anaheim would need a center back. Therefore it would be Miller/Roy for Getzlaf/Hiller. But as I said, I have a hard time believing that this is even possible. I agree that I dont think it will happen but variations of these stories won't go away: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/04/columnist-ducks-should-trade-ryan-getzlaf/ First it's Miller to the West, then Ryan to the East, now Getzlaf should be traded. All these stories do is provide a little hope that they will try to do something to improve the team. Maybe it is me but I think trying and failing is better than doing nothing and failing.
shrader Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I missed this one while on vacation. I have one big question. Why does everyone always fall for the troll?
Eleven Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Yes. I wanted "physical" defenseman unlike the ones he continues to draft...which is just about all of them except for McNabb. :rolleyes: Weber? And have you seen enough of the rest of them (Brennan, Schiestel, etc.) to know if they're physical or not? I haven't. Chimp, Re: Regehr--he's softened his game? I don't think so. Seems the same as he always did, to me. I don't remember anyone being scared to come into his zone in Calgary. He was always just a good, solid stay-at-home defenseman; he's not Pronger and never was.
dEnnis the Menace Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 I missed this one while on vacation. I have one big question. Why does everyone always fall for the troll? I hope you had a nice vacation. While you were gone we decided to feed some trolls, in anticipation of asking mom and dad if we could keep them ;) Some conversations have turned like little Gremlins...
LabattBlue Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Weber? And have you seen enough of the rest of them (Brennan, Schiestel, etc.) to know if they're physical or not? I haven't. Chimp, Re: Regehr--he's softened his game? I don't think so. Seems the same as he always did, to me. I don't remember anyone being scared to come into his zone in Calgary. He was always just a good, solid stay-at-home defenseman; he's not Pronger and never was. Got me on Weber. As for the rest of the lot, I don't think playing a physical game is the strength of any of them, but maybe our Rochester poster can enlighten us on Persson, Brennan, Crawford, Biega and Scheistel in regards to this.
shrader Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Weber? And have you seen enough of the rest of them (Brennan, Schiestel, etc.) to know if they're physical or not? I haven't. The picks across the board as a whole have gone more towards physical players, including the blueliners. That transition seems to have kicked into high gear with the 2009 draft and we're just now starting to see those guys at the pro level.
Bmwolf21 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 I hope you had a nice vacation. While you were gone we decided to feed some trolls, in anticipation of asking mom and dad if we could keep them ;) Some conversations have turned like little Gremlins... Everything was fine until we fed them after midnight.
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