What would you do if you were in charge?

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Am I the only one who thought they actually played pretty well vs. Winnipeg? They just seemed to have quite a bit more jump and they seemed to create more scoring chances.

 

Enroth looked really good.

 

And Myers made it clear (to me, anyway) that he continues to be the best player on the team. Getting him back is a big step in the right direction.

 

They still need, desperately, a shakeup in the top 6, but I was encouraged by what I saw.

 

Am I kidding myself?

 

No. I don't think you are kidding yourself.

 

They did look pretty good and had a pretty solid effort.

 

That's the problem. I think we are seeing all we will get. They play an inspired game against a team that they need to beat in order to make headway in the standings and ... they still lost the game.

[LGR4GM]

Am I the only one who thought they actually played pretty well vs. Winnipeg? They just seemed to have quite a bit more jump and they seemed to create more scoring chances.

 

Enroth looked really good.

 

And Myers made it clear (to me, anyway) that he continues to be the best player on the team. Getting him back is a big step in the right direction.

 

They still need, desperately, a shakeup in the top 6, but I was encouraged by what I saw.

 

Am I kidding myself?

they looked better but the problem is they still miss so many scoring opportunities it borders ridiculous. Something has to change and I think your right the core 6 need a change.

 

I feel as though we have too many offensive defensemen. Sekera and Gragnani make too many mistakes and haven't put up enough numbers to justify being here. They simply make me nervous when they are in the defensive zone. Ehrhoff hasn't done much but I don't think trading him is a posibility, and I haven't been completely displeased with him either. Leopold has been pretty solid both ways and Myers is good offensively and defensivly. I would rather keep those three as offensive defensemen, and have the rest be stay at home types. By the way, McNabb has been great.

I would love to see what we could get for Roy and Stafford. I wanted to give Roy the benefit of the doubt after having such a strong showing last year, but he hasn't shown it lately. Stafford seems to be good at times, but never consistent. I would take a couple of lesser players for one of him. I'm leaning on a Miller trade. I'm not sure how much time is too much to prove his worth. He's still a name that GM's would drool over even if his numbers don't back it up. I'd also like to bring Ted Nolan back.

McNabb hits ppl but I have not scene him do anything in the way of greatness. Its like there is this weird cult building around him and front what I can tell he's played a lot of standard average hockey and tossed in a couple of hits. Hes got the potential to be great but thats years away.

 

No, you do not replace your 14 year long coach with the guy he replaced. Thats 1 step forward and 2 steps back. We hire a new coach that has never been the head coach of the sabres before. Bringing Nolan back is a terrible idea and the only reason people are even suggesting it is because it is something familiar and for too long this team has done whats comfortable. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results, hiring Nolan again falls well within those borders.

[dEnnis the Menace]

Am I the only one who thought they actually played pretty well vs. Winnipeg? They just seemed to have quite a bit more jump and they seemed to create more scoring chances.

 

Enroth looked really good.

 

And Myers made it clear (to me, anyway) that he continues to be the best player on the team. Getting him back is a big step in the right direction.

 

They still need, desperately, a shakeup in the top 6, but I was encouraged by what I saw.

 

Am I kidding myself?

 

You're definitely not kidding yourself. There were a lot of encouraging moments in that game, and the way Myers was playing was outstanding, and Enroth was just downright nasty in net. I thought we didn't get the benefit of the bounce and that luck has yet again run away from us, but we looked decent.

 

I can't say it enough, this team needs SOME sort of shakeup. Most preferably in the top 6. Half a Vanek was better than a full go Stafford all game. Vanek and Pominville (and now Myers) cannot be the sole carriers of this team.

[nfreeman]

No. I don't think you are kidding yourself.

 

They did look pretty good and had a pretty solid effort.

 

That's the problem. I think we are seeing all we will get. They play an inspired game against a team that they need to beat in order to make headway in the standings and ... they still lost the game.

they looked better but the problem is they still miss so many scoring opportunities it borders ridiculous. Something has to change and I think your right the core 6 need a change.

You're definitely not kidding yourself. There were a lot of encouraging moments in that game, and the way Myers was playing was outstanding, and Enroth was just downright nasty in net. I thought we didn't get the benefit of the bounce and that luck has yet again run away from us, but we looked decent.

 

I can't say it enough, this team needs SOME sort of shakeup. Most preferably in the top 6. Half a Vanek was better than a full go Stafford all game. Vanek and Pominville (and now Myers) cannot be the sole carriers of this team.

 

Thanks gents.

 

As a related matter, one of the worst things about losing to Winnipeg was that I didn't feel like I could get away with posting about how much better they looked without Roy. I still think they looked better without him, but it's hard to make a convincing argument when the forwards score ZERO goals.

[qwksndmonster]

 

Thanks gents.

 

As a related matter, one of the worst things about losing to Winnipeg was that I didn't feel like I could get away with posting about how much better they looked without Roy. I still think they looked better without him, but it's hard to make a convincing argument when the forwards score ZERO goals.

I think it could possibliy be evidence that more moves need to be made after the (eventual) ditching of Roy. I'm not confident that Darcy will make those moves, though.

[RazielSabre]

 

Thanks gents.

 

As a related matter, one of the worst things about losing to Winnipeg was that I didn't feel like I could get away with posting about how much better they looked without Roy. I still think they looked better without him, but it's hard to make a convincing argument when the forwards score ZERO goals.

 

It took effort and time but I believe we helped get Connelly out of here, maybe it won't be so hard getting Regier to ship Roy this time.

 

Always look on the bright side of life...

[Weave]

Forget about Carter. He's out injured.

[Randall Flagg]

Forget about Carter. He's out injured.

Good. We don't need another underachieving winger.

[Redemption City]

I think looking pretty good, and still losing to one of the worst teams in the league is a pretty bad sign. Maybe a step in the right direction instead.

[dEnnis the Menace]

I think looking pretty good, and still losing to one of the worst teams in the league is a pretty bad sign. Maybe a step in the right direction instead.

 

except Winnipeg is (1) ahead of us in the standings and (2) the best home team in the league (I know it was an away game for them, but my point is, they are not the bottom dweller we all had the pre conceived notion they would be).

[jjn226]

I voted for to fire Darcy and Lindy, however I would be ok with any of the above, except doing nothing, because doing nothing is not working, I do think Lindy is a good coach I just think his message is stale, I do believe Darcy makes good deals, they are just few and far between. I believe this team is in need of a shake up.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

 

Good. We don't need another underachieving winger.

 

Uhmmm ... Isn't Carter an underachieving center?

[waldo]

The Sabres organization is exactly where the Washington organization was two months ago imo. All the symptoms, both internally and externally, are there. All one needs to do now is to wait for all of the forces at play to reach critical mass. I said fifteen games a week ago. I think I may have been too conservative. DR could probably delay the inevitable by engineering a big trade,( not in his nature), but that would only buy some time because at its core this is not about having the players to compete anymore, this is about personalities and relationships that have soured beyond repair.

[Redemption City]

 

 

except Winnipeg is (1) ahead of us in the standings and (2) the best home team in the league (I know it was an away game for them, but my point is, they are not the bottom dweller we all had the pre conceived notion they would be).

 

D'oh. Better than last year, yes. Still not sure ahead of us in the standings is as lofty an achievement as I'd like it to be.

[Redemption City]

Seems like now would be a perfect time to trade away some of the more superfluous "talent" on this team away. Let's say Boyes or Hecht for a late draft pick to a team like Dallas or L.A. Then see how the "core" responds over the next couple weeks. This still leaves a few weeks till the deadline.

[darksabre]

 

 

 

 

Thanks gents.

 

As a related matter, one of the worst things about losing to Winnipeg was that I didn't feel like I could get away with posting about how much better they looked without Roy. I still think they looked better without him, but it's hard to make a convincing argument when the forwards score ZERO goals.

 

It's tough to make that argument but I agree with it anyway. To me, the biggest problem we have offensively is puck possession. Roy is just pathetically weak on the puck. He can't carry it to the net, he can't battle on the boards and he can't set anyone up well because of it. Our bigger guys like Goose and Adam were very noticeable and battle hard. And Leino battles as well. Vanek had a rough outing after taking that Myers shot in the gut but he still goes where only he can go, and his vision is great.

 

I just don't see this team as being any better with Roy in the lineup than they are without him.

[dEnnis the Menace]

It's tough to make that argument but I agree with it anyway. To me, the biggest problem we have offensively is puck possession. Roy is just pathetically weak on the puck. He can't carry it to the net, he can't battle on the boards and he can't set anyone up well because of it. Our bigger guys like Goose and Adam were very noticeable and battle hard. And Leino battles as well. Vanek had a rough outing after taking that Myers shot in the gut but he still goes where only he can go, and his vision is great.

 

I just don't see this team as being any better with Roy in the lineup than they are without him.

 

I agree 100%. Only problem is, Darcy is having anxiety over the anticipated separation anxiety. He just needs to ship him out...

[Randall Flagg]

 

 

Uhmmm ... Isn't Carter an underachieving center?

Oops my bad.. Still not sure if I'd like him...

[mudberry]

they looked better but the problem is they still miss so many scoring opportunities it borders ridiculous. Something has to change and I think your right the core 6 need a change.

 

 

McNabb hits ppl but I have not scene him do anything in the way of greatness. Its like there is this weird cult building around him and front what I can tell he's played a lot of standard average hockey and tossed in a couple of hits. Hes got the potential to be great but thats years away.

 

No, you do not replace your 14 year long coach with the guy he replaced. Thats 1 step forward and 2 steps back. We hire a new coach that has never been the head coach of the sabres before. Bringing Nolan back is a terrible idea and the only reason people are even suggesting it is because it is something familiar and for too long this team has done whats comfortable. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results, hiring Nolan again falls well within those borders.

Nolan may not be the answer and he might have been out of the NHL for to long to click in this league. However, I don't think hiring him falls within the definition of insanity. He left with a pretty good record, as well as being coach of the year with a crew that was not the top talent in the league minus Hasek. I would hire not expecting different results, but the type of results he had while he was here.

[darksabre]

 

Nolan may not be the answer and he might have been out of the NHL for to long to click in this league. However, I don't think hiring him falls within the definition of insanity. He left with a pretty good record, as well as being coach of the year with a crew that was not the top talent in the league minus Hasek. I would hire not expecting different results, but the type of results he had while he was here.

 

It's the move I would make if you wanted a temporary situation. Let him do the rest of the season. He might still be living in Rochester...

 

Edit: looks like he's coaching Latvia's national team. That's a trade off for old Ted. Does he bury the hatchet between him and Darcy over how he left, or does he tell Darcy to go screw?

[Huckleberry]

Forget about Carter. He's out injured.

 

I'd still go for him if it seems were out of the playoffs in a month, and get him for next season.

get ruutu, and maybe trade miller for quick before the deadline.

[TheChimp]

No, you do not replace your 14 year long coach with the guy he replaced. Thats 1 step forward and 2 steps back. We hire a new coach that has never been the head coach of the sabres before. Bringing Nolan back is a terrible idea and the only reason people are even suggesting it is because it is something familiar and for too long this team has done whats comfortable. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results, hiring Nolan again falls well within those borders.

FOUL...FILTH...FOULLFOUL FILTH FILTHFOUL...FOUL!!! :wallbash:

[RazielSabre]

No, you do not replace your 14 year long coach with the guy he replaced. Thats 1 step forward and 2 steps back. We hire a new coach that has never been the head coach of the sabres before. Bringing Nolan back is a terrible idea and the only reason people are even suggesting it is because it is something familiar and for too long this team has done whats comfortable. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results, hiring Nolan again falls well within those borders.

+1!

[LGR4GM]

FOUL...FILTH...FOULLFOUL FILTH FILTHFOUL...FOUL!!! :wallbash:

hmm I see your point. Your well thought out response to my initial reaction to Nolan is very thought provoking, thank you.

[Marvelo]

We've got no talent and no character. Other than that we're fine.