What would you do if you were in charge?

[spndnchz]

Tuomo Ruutu anyone? Carolina is looking to get rid some of their upcoming UFA's before the deadline.

 

Center. Tough. Hits. Fights.

[Ross Rhea]

I see no evidence whatsoever that Myers is a future HOF. He had a great rookie year, a mediocre 2nd year and this year he has been average. He has not been close to being nominated for the Norris trophy. People overestimate him due to his size. They think he is the next Chara, but he is not tough and physical like Chara.

 

If he were to continue to do what he's done for the next 15 years he is borderline HOF. That said, he is only 21 and is only going to get better.

[Weave]

Tuomo Ruutu anyone? Carolina is looking to get rid some of their upcoming UFA's before the deadline.

 

Center. Tough. Hits. Fights.

 

I'd take him. He's got the grit and attitude that we're lacking. I think he's more of a winger that does part time center duty tho, right?

 

If he were to continue to do what he's done for the next 15 years he is borderline HOF. That said, he is only 21 and is only going to get better.

 

How do you figure the first sentence? He has yet to perform at an all star level, let alone HOF level.

 

Your 2nd sentence is more accurate IMO.

[LGR4GM]

I doubt we get a #1 center in season. And I don't really need one either. Boston has really opened my mind to the idea that a bunch of decent, but not great, centers can be as effective a path to the cup as an all star center-based team.

I see the logic but if you trade Roy to get carter we still only have 1 top-ish center. You have to keep roy in that scenario IMHO to start to transition towards what Boston has. Also Boston has Krejci who is a tough center and Seguin who is very good and could be a top center. IDK if buffalo has the gm to pull off a boston type of team.

Tuomo Ruutu anyone? Carolina is looking to get rid some of their upcoming UFA's before the deadline.

 

Center. Tough. Hits. Fights.

yes please. that would only be ok if we ditch one of the core in the trade for him.

[spndnchz]

I'd take him. He's got the grit and attitude that we're lacking. I think he's more of a winger that does part time center duty tho, right?

 

 

I think before Skinner went out he was centering Ponikarovsky and Jokinen.

 

Carolina's deeper at center than B-lo.

[Taro T]

Shades of Andreychuk for Fuhr. I think Vanek is the best pure scorer the Sabres have had since Andreychuk. And we couldn't deny the need for a goalie at the time just like Sabres need a center now. But I wouldn't make that trade 1 time out of 100. I feel the same way about moving TV.

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

 

Uh, you do realize that the team had some project (at least in Muckler's opinion) named Dominik something or other already on the roster that season, right? :doh:

 

(The :wallbash: is more aimed at Muckler than you.)

[james duncan]

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

 

Uh, you do realize that the team had some project (at least in Muckler's opinion) named Dominik something or other already on the roster that season, right? :doh:

 

(The :wallbash: is more aimed at Muckler than you.)

Yes. One of the worst trades of all time as a result. And the current Sabres have NO scorer to take Vanek's spot on the roster.

[BuffaloSoldier2010]

Just watched the highlights of the canes game on sabres.com and I've finally come to a conclusion.

 

Lindy MUST go. I've been on the fence on the subject, which was saying something seeing as how i was once a very strong supporter of Ruff.

 

Anyone have a stat on how many 2 on ones we gave up last night? better yet, how many breakaways? Lindys "system" only seems to produce one thing consistently, and thats odd man rushes going the other way. If your forwards cant score, don't force the issue, just play to your strengths, a solid goaltending tandem and one of the better defensive groups in the league (on paper).

 

All this nonsense about getting the defense involved in the offense leaves me astounded. You want to get your all-star goalie back in the groove of things, and yet you continue to demand that the defense joins the rush, even though this typically only results in giveaways and odd man rushes against, time and time again.

 

The problem with this team is that they are set in their ways. Roy and Stafford are used to having success, and refuse to change anything about their game to adapt to the changing league. The same can be said of Darcy, in the way he builds this team, and of Ruff, in that his "system" seems to completely ignore the fact that the league is once again a much tougher place to play, since the first few years post lockout.

 

The players who are willing to adapt their playing styles, the Vaneks, the Pominvilles... those are players destined to succeed long term. We need perseverance and a willingness to look inward and adapt their game accordingly to the rest of the league above all else.

 

A new coach would go a long way to ensure that our up and coming crop of players don't befall the same fate of Roy and Stafford. Sorry Lindy, it's been fun, but it's time for you to go.

[nobody]

I don't see Carter getting excited by going to a 11th place team.

[fiftyone]

Check your facts. He was traded from Philly for a good young player (Jakub Voracek), a 1st (7th overall, became Sean Couturier), and a 3rd.

 

Good call, I don't know what I was thinking. That sounded so good in my head, too.

[james duncan]

I don't see Carter getting excited by going to a 11th place team.

Agreed. And I doubted his maturity level while in Philly. Hes done nothing to enhance that after his trade to Columbus. I think he'd be a trainwreck in Bflo.

[nfreeman]

I see no evidence whatsoever that Myers is a future HOF. He had a great rookie year, a mediocre 2nd year and this year he has been average. He has not been close to being nominated for the Norris trophy. People overestimate him due to his size. They think he is the next Chara, but he is not tough and physical like Chara.

 

Get some exercise and change your avatar.

 

check shea webers first 4 years in the league... up and down each one until bamn! The best defensmen in the NHL

 

Would you still not trade Vanek for him?

 

Tuomo Ruutu anyone? Carolina is looking to get rid some of their upcoming UFA's before the deadline.

 

Center. Tough. Hits. Fights.

 

Well, he's in the last year of his contract, so I wouldn't give up too much for him, but he'd be a nice addition for the time being anyway.

 

Separately: here are my thoughts on a trade for Carter:

 

1. I think Columbus will probably not trade him this soon after acquiring him. It would just make them look like too much of a Mickey Mouse organization. Still, it's not impossible if they bring in a new GM.

 

2. I would trade Roy for him in a second. I agree that he's not that much better than Roy, and I think he'd be almost as bad in the playoffs as Roy is, and his contract is much worse than Roy's (11 more years @ $5.2MM per year), but he's still, at age 26, a very legit #2 center with size, skill, productivity and plenty of playoff experience. Turning Roy into him would be a big improvement for this team.

 

3. I would NOT put Carter in the same category as Staal or Getzlaf -- ie I don't see any reason to consider trading Vanek or Myers for him.

 

4. If Columbus did put him on the market, I don't think they would take just Roy -- the Sabres would have to include another good asset. I would include Stafford, Leopold, MAG, Pysyk or Sekera (or a draft pick) if needed, but not Kassian or McNabb.

[SwampD]

I'm not sold on him, either, but this may be the perfect "needs a change of scenery" situation for both guys. That's exactly the type of deal that the Sabres should be trying right now.

Isn't this pretty much the same point in Briere's career that a change of scenery did wonders to? I'm not saying it will happen with Roy but I wouldn't be surprised.

[Huckleberry]

I'll say it again Roy and stafford for carter + 2nd round pick, clears open some cap space to.

 

for some reason i like hudler so i'd go after him dangling sekera + columbus 2nd round pick , if it costs us MAG instead of sekera im cool with it to.

Tuomo Ruutu is another option, but i wouldn't give up more then a 3rd round pick for him seeing he is UFA.

 

I doubt getzlaff will come at a price any fan would be willing to pay, myers, miller, erhoff, vanek, pominville, it will take those guys to get him.

[LabattBlue]

I doubt getzlaff will come at a price any fan would be willing to pay, myers, miller, erhoff, vanek, pominville, it will take those guys to get him.

Speak for yourself.

[deluca67]

Speak for yourself.

I'll second that.

 

The only player I would think twice about is Vanek.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

I'll second that.

 

The only player I would think twice about is Vanek.

 

Third ...

 

For a proven player of the type this team needs I would say that no one is untouchable (in my mind anyway). Although, I would try to hang onto Myers if at all possible.

[Bullwinkle]

I think the only thing that will light a fire under Darcy is a 9-0 whuppin' from Boston like they did to Calgary. Certainly they have the talent to beat us that badly. Unfortunately that opportunity won't come until Feb. 8th.

[TheMadCap]

I think the only thing that will light a fire under Darcy is a 9-0 whuppin' from Boston like they did to Calgary. Certainly they have the talent to beat us that badly. Unfortunately that opportunity won't come until Feb. 8th.

 

yeah but injuries, it's the INJURIES that are the problem. We just need to get our guys back and things will be all good again...

[Chief Enabler]

i'd say much of the AHL talent on roster would be attractive as well as some salary dump guys as a combo.

 

Dumping Leino would be a bold move and send a message through the organization and NHL community about how serious things are.

[carpandean]

For what it's worth, on NHL network, they said they're hearing that Darcy Regier is looking to make a move and Roy is the name that keeps coming up.

[deluca67]

For what it's worth, on NHL network, they said they're hearing that Darcy Regier is looking to make a move and Roy is the name that keeps coming up.

Not directed at you Carp, I just couldn't care less about rumors.

[SwampD]

If I was in charge, I would make this site change the default avitar from Tim F#####G Connolly to ANYTHING ELSE. Things went south for the Sabres the second he started popping up everywhere. I mean, really, how hard is it to change something like that.

 

:wallbash: :wallbash:

[Taro T]

For what it's worth, on NHL network, they said they're hearing that Darcy Regier is looking to make a move and Roy is the name that keeps coming up.

But now that he's broken, just how many offers will come in for him?

 

(Please note, I haven't heard the severity of Roy's injury, nor the expected duration of him being out of the lineup. Here's to hoping it's short term.)

[TheChimp]

I'm taking what Burke said at face value and saying right now that this new "news" is just more smoke and mirrors. Darcy has no plans to do anything, and so his price tag on Roy is probably something idiotic.

 

And watch, whoever we get, they'll come here and have a great first few games, and then Ruff will get ahold of them and by the second month of their tenure with us, they'll be soft as melted butter and as lethargic as a slug. Same old crap.