SDS Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I was actually very surprised they didn't bring in another hockey man regardless of the title. While I am long way from pessimistic, I am starting to wonder if I was giving them a lot of credit before they earned it. I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal?
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I will GM this team for $150,000 a year. I want my salary to double after every playoff series victory for that year. I want full control over coaching staff. If team wins Stanley Cup more than 1 time in 5 years, I want a 5% equity position in the team. If I do not win a playoff series in my 1st year on the job, I will step down. If my team does not get to the Stanley Cup in 3 years, I will step down. Mr. Black, feel free to PM me. Mr. Black feel free to PM Mr. GoDD ... actually, PM me ... I'm now his agent ... :thumbsup:
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal? Post of the day ... so far!! I hope you are right.
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal? I patiently wait for Katie Perry to divorce.
LabattBlue Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Posted December 12, 2011 I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal? That could be, but that would be a pretty risky strategy considering the exec in question could re-up with his current team. Hopefully their "list" has more than one qualified name on it. :rolleyes:
Robviously Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal? Any guesses as to who this might be?
X. Benedict Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 I checked 4 or 5, and yes, they all have Assistant GM's. Are they Cap compliance specialists? That is about the only reason I can think to have one.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 12, 2011 Report Posted December 12, 2011 Any guesses as to who this might be? I'm not sure of his contract status, but I'm thinking Shero in Pittsburgh. Also, how about Bowman in Chicago ... seriously.
deluca67 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Anything of value to add to the discussion? :doh: Why would he start now? We heard a lot about adding scouts and the focus on player development going into last off-season. Why wouldn't they also bring in "hockey" minds into the front office. Toronto added Rick Dudley and already had Burke and Fletcher in the mix. That is a lot of hockey knowledge available to the Leafs and it appears to be paying off for them this season. Scotty Bowman is another example of adding hockey knowledge to Chicago's front office. With an owner that is willing to pay the bill why wouldn't the Sabres be adding assistant GMs or consultants.
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Posted December 13, 2011 Why would he start now? We heard a lot about adding scouts and the focus on player development going into last off-season. Why wouldn't they also bring in "hockey" minds into the front office. Toronto added Rick Dudley and already had Burke and Fletcher in the mix. That is a lot of hockey knowledge available to the Leafs and it appears to be paying off for them this season. Scotty Bowman is another example of adding hockey knowledge to Chicago's front office. With an owner that is willing to pay the bill why wouldn't the Sabres be adding assistant GMs or consultants. Somewhere I saved the Sabres FO staff directory from last season, so I could compare it to this season. I can't remember where I saved it to! :doh:
deluca67 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Somewhere I saved the Sabres FO staff directory from last season, so I could compare it to this season. I can't remember where I saved it to! :doh: I usually save stuff like that in my 'Stuff to get pissed at later." folder.
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Posted December 13, 2011 I usually save stuff like that in my 'Stuff to get pissed at later." folder. I still can't remember where I saved the directory, but I found a thread I started about this back in March. Good post in the thread from PA... http://forums.sabres...post__p__257205 PS In the thread from March, I even mention how I am going to save the directory. I hate getting old! :lol:
SDS Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Somewhere I saved the Sabres FO staff directory from last season, so I could compare it to this season. I can't remember where I saved it to! :doh: Why not just look in the media guide: http://downloads.sab...e-FullGuide.pdf
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Posted December 13, 2011 Why not just look in the media guide: http://downloads.sab...e-FullGuide.pdf I didn't know old media guides were online. :)
SDS Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 I didn't know old media guides were online. :) I'm not sure on the title but DR did say that his assistant made up the deal for Enroth this year. Mark Jakubowski begins his sixth year with the Sabres and third as the Assistant to the General Manager. His responsibilities include statistical and salary cap analysis, contract research relating to player negotiations and arbitrations, managing player transfers, team roster administration, and all matters relat- ing to compliance with the NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement and other NHL agreements. Jakubowski also assists with the American Hockey League hockey operations of the team’s minor league affiliate, the Portland Pirates. Jakubowski graduated with an economics degree from the University of Rochester, where he also played baseball. He resides in Hamburg, NY. A fine young man indeed.
X. Benedict Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Why would he start now? We heard a lot about adding scouts and the focus on player development going into last off-season. Why wouldn't they also bring in "hockey" minds into the front office. Toronto added Rick Dudley and already had Burke and Fletcher in the mix. That is a lot of hockey knowledge available to the Leafs and it appears to be paying off for them this season. Scotty Bowman is another example of adding hockey knowledge to Chicago's front office. With an owner that is willing to pay the bill why wouldn't the Sabres be adding assistant GMs or consultants. Personnel decisions usually follow a job description. What is an Assistant GM assisting with? Not being snarky here......but what I usually suspect is that GM's that don't have a lot of stability featherbed their front office. You brought up Burke, the guy who hired his college buddy (Wilson - who I've always thought was a good coach BTW)..... so just to play the foil.......what are Nonis, Fletcher, Poulin and Dudley (who was famously hired without any job description or title), doing? The cynical part of me says a lot of hires are part of the NHL jobs program. Once Burke goes from Toronto, one of these guys will throw him a bone and probably return the favor. Because the Leafs really haven't had an single owner, you have to wonder about their due diligence process.
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Posted December 13, 2011 Just now I remembered where the screen shot was from 3/1 that I copied. Here are the FO differences between then and now... Added Pro Scout/Player Development - Eric Weinrich Amatuer Scout - Dave Torrie Hockey Technologies Manager - Kyle Kiebzak New Title Amatuer Scouting Operations - Scott Schranz(formerly Director of Hockey Analytics) Hockey Analytics Asst. - Graham Beamish(formerly Grad Asst. - Hockey Analytics) Gone Asst. Director of Hockey Analytics - Ryan Vinz That's it.
tom webster Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 I think these guys have patience. Maybe the guy they want is in his last year (or two?) of his current deal? That's what I was thinking through the end of last year up through the draft. Waiting a year and a half for someone? He better be special.
SDS Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 Just now I remembered where the screen shot was from 3/1 that I copied. Here are the FO differences between then and now... Added Pro Scout/Player Development - Eric Weinrich Amatuer Scout - Dave Torrie Hockey Technologies Manager - Kyle Kiebzak New Title Amatuer Scouting Operations - Scott Schranz(formerly Director of Hockey Analytics) Hockey Analytics Asst. - Graham Beamish(formerly Grad Asst. - Hockey Analytics) Gone Asst. Director of Hockey Analytics - Ryan Vinz That's it. So then, we should have a position by position comparison between the Sabres and Detroit and see what it shows.
LabattBlue Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Posted December 13, 2011 So then, we should have a position by position comparison between the Sabres and Detroit and see what it shows. All in good time. Wait until I am going stir crazy after the first snow storm of the season.
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