game discussion thread GDT: Sabres at Columbus 11/25/11 7:00PM

[deluca67]

Can't any one of the higher ups see what philly did? I mean seriously, they have blown that team up more than Connolly's upper AND lower body injuries combined and every time, the new, gritty pieces fall right into place.....

 

Here in Buffalo, they are terrified to go beyond a low round draft choices and butler....TAKE A CHANCE because nobody is responding to this team since Briere and Drury left.

Philly? Look at what Dale Tallon has done in Florida in such a short period of time.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

I know we have biodork and ILovePhysics.....but if we have a chemistry pro here, I'd pay $30 for a T-shirt of Darcy's face with the molecular structure of Tryptophan underneath it.

 

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

[nfreeman]

This is never going to happen under Regier and everyone knows it. I would wager Regier regrets everyday not being allowed to resign Tim Connolly. Regier will continue to hold on to his "core" even if it is to the detriment of the franchise.

Well, perhaps it will be DR's replacement that does it. If the Sabres get bounced in the first round again then I don't see any reason to keep him.

[Eleven]

I know we have biodork and ILovePhysics.....but if we have a chemistry pro here, I'd pay $30 for a T-shirt of Darcy's face with the molecular structure of Tryptophan underneath it.

 

If someone can show me how to turn a photo into a line drawing using iPhoto, I will make one.

[dudacek]

I hope this game was the low point of the year.

[freester]

While I agree that winning a cup will take more than 1 offseason, we should all be clear that when the vault was opened up for DR last summer, he doubled down on his core group. Leino was the only forward brought in, and he was a complementary piece. None of the "core" got traded. Stafford got a fat extension on the back of one good contract year after several mediocre years. Roy was welcomed back to his top 6 spot. Pommer was made captain and the As all went to other "core" members. So instead of remaking the the team, DR chose to invest more time and at least one more season in the same group of losers that has accomplished exactly zero since they inherited the team from the prior leadership group.

 

It's certainly possible that this group will justify DR's faith in them. I'm not confident that it will happen but I'll be watching and hoping. And if it doesn't happen? Then at least 2 of Roy, Pommer, vanek and stafford need to be shipped out this summer (and they need to make GD sure that they win the Shea weber auction if it occurs). It probably should've happened last summer. DR chose not to do so, and when the results are in this spring he has to be accountable.

y

The core players that have underperformed are stafford and miller. The greatest error that DR made was replacing Connally with Leino. Leino is a mediocre player and clearly not a center, while Conally is playing very well when healthy with toronto. this is a huge downgrade for the sabres.

[carpandean]

y

The core players that have underperformed are stafford and miller. The greatest error that DR made was replacing Connally with Leino. Leino is a mediocre player and clearly not a center, while Conally is playing very well when healthy with toronto. this is a huge downgrade for the sabres.

He's still not playing when unhealthy, so wouldn't Leino be an upgrade for the Sabres in those times? Seems like a wash so far.

[nfreeman]

F*ck me, man. No way. Not ANOTHER "next season" post? No offense, please, but, can you bear it? I can't. This is total lunacy. Season after season of "next year" makes me want to drive spikes into my urinary meatus. How could proper, testosterone-imbibed athletes stand to keep putting off victory until "next season"? :wallbash:

Well I think the logical thing to do is to see whether DR's plan worked before deciding whether to keep him. Evaluating him before December (especially when they are above .500, #5 in the NHL in defense and #9 in scoring) seems rash. What I care about happens in the spring.

[waldo]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Oh no! The sky is falling.

 

Let’s trade all the core players. There is no need to focus on the underperformers, let’s get rid of them all including Vanek. The one player who can make any line he plays on better. The guy who puts up 30+ and has not played with a true one center for the past four years. He definately needs to to go. Forget the fact that he happens to be the team’s only real post season scoring threat when not doubled by the opposing teams shut down lines, which he plays against in every game. Let’s get rid of our only consistent scoring line and better yet let us add Miller to that list,the only reason the Sabres went seven in the post season last year, so we can also spends some time looking for a true one goaltender too. Pom and Roy too.. Clean house.

[bunomatic]

y

The core players that have underperformed are stafford and miller. The greatest error that DR made was replacing Connally with Leino. Leino is a mediocre player and clearly not a center, while Conally is playing very well when healthy with toronto. this is a huge downgrade for the sabres.

Please don't bring Timmy back into the equation. His time had come and gone. This is the problem with Sabres fans. They can't let go. Letting Connoly sign in Toronto for way more than what he's worth was the smartest move Regier made this offseason.

[bunomatic]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Oh no! The sky is falling.

 

Let’s trade all the core players. There is no need to focus on the underperformers, let’s get rid of them all. Although Pom and Vanek can make any line they play on better and neither has played with a true one center for the past four years we will get rid of them. Not to mention the fact that one of them happens to be the team’s only real post season scoring threat when not doubled by the opposing teams shut down lines, and an elite playmaker, in his own right. Let’s get rid of our only consistent scoring line and better yet let us add Miller to that list so we can also spends some time looking for a true one goaltender too.

I don't recall anyone saying to get rid of Vanek. Imo there are pieces of the core that could be moved out in a trade to bring in the assets this team needs to improve and move forward. The goal as a team is to upgrade when possible in an attempt to reach the ultimate prize.

[deluca67]

Well I think the logical thing to do is to see whether DR's plan worked before deciding whether to keep him. Evaluating him before December (especially when they are above .500, #5 in the NHL in defense and #9 in scoring) seems rash. What I care about happens in the spring.

There's no point in waiting. We have all seen this movie before and we know how it ends. There is nothing new going on with the Sabres.

[waldo]

I don't recall anyone saying to get rid of Vanek. Imo there are pieces of the core that could be moved out in a trade to bring in the assets this team needs to improve and move forward. The goal as a team is to upgrade when possible in an attempt to reach the ultimate prize.

 

nfreeman, on 25 November 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

 

It's certainly possible that this group will justify DR's faith in them. I'm not confident that it will happen but I'll be watching and hoping. And if it doesn't happen? Then at least 2 of Roy, Pommer, vanek and stafford need to be shipped out this summer (and they need to make GD sure that they win the Shea weber auction if it occurs). It probably should've happened last summer. DR chose not to do so, and when the results are in this spring he has to be accountable.

 

Miller, Vanek and Roy (as my two center) are on my safe list and i would consider moving Roy for the right piece but it would have to be a Weber or true one center level deal. Everybody else i am open to discuss if i am Darcy.There are plenty of pieces here to get what is needed.

 

Carolina won because they were better at capitalizing on mistakes. Grags gave them two goals, Tropp or Adam one and Roth one, i think . When you play kids you have to be able to live with that, wait until tonight.

[frissonic]

I know we have biodork and ILovePhysics.....but if we have a chemistry pro here, I'd pay $30 for a T-shirt of Darcy's face with the molecular structure of Tryptophan underneath it.

consider it done.

 

http://frissonic.net/schtuff/darcyphan.jpg

[freester]

He's still not playing when unhealthy, so wouldn't Leino be an upgrade for the Sabres in those times? Seems like a wash so far.

Connally has 11 points in 11 games. What does Leino have? Last night during the toronto game the announcers were gushing about Timmy.

[bunomatic]

consider it done.

 

http://frissonic.net/schtuff/darcyphan.jpg

:worthy: :clapping: :thumbsup:

[freester]

Please don't bring Timmy back into the equation. His time had come and gone. This is the problem with Sabres fans. They can't let go. Letting Connoly sign in Toronto for way more than what he's worth was the smartest move Regier made this offseason.

I was OK with letting Timmy go provided they were going to upgrade the center position. Instead DR signed Leino to an absurd contract, and now we are stuck with him. This was clearly a downgrade at the center position, since Leino is not a center and is a mediocre winger at best. think Toronto is very happy with TC performance so far in just 11 games. If TC was on the sabres he would be the 3rd leading scorer.

[87168]

consider it done.

 

http://frissonic.net/schtuff/darcyphan.jpg

 

 

Hahahaha gotdamn!

[bunomatic]

Connally has 11 points in 11 games. What does Leino have? Last night during the toronto game the announcers were gushing about Timmy.

You don't hear anyone gush about Timmy while he's on the I.R. That ship has sailed.

[bunomatic]

I was OK with letting Timmy go provided they were going to upgrade the center position. Instead DR signed Leino to an absurd contract, and now we are stuck with him. This was clearly a downgrade at the center position, since Leino is not a center and is a mediocre winger at best. think Toronto is very happy with TC performance so far in just 11 games. If TC was on the sabres he would be the 3rd leading scorer.

With 11 points. Now thats a real indictment of this team isn't it? The fact remains he isn't on this team. He's a leaf. At some point you have to learn to let go. Its very liberating. I'll admit he brought some intangibles to this team that we may be missing. Last year he turned himself into a very capable penalty killer that we may or may not miss. I don't miss him. You can't put Leino into the Connolly equation because he wasn't brought in in a trade with Connolly. Seperate moves. Did he replace Connolly with Leino? I think it was agreed when that move was made that it was somewhat of an experiment. Has that experiment failed? I think based on what we've seen maybe it has. I think Leino could still prove to be worthwhile if this team ever gets its head out of its butt. But Connolly is gone. Move on.

[waldo]

consider it done.

 

http://frissonic.net/schtuff/darcyphan.jpg

 

Great photo. Darcy even looks stoned. Personally i would use heroin or methadone .

[Marvelo]

trade Stafford, Roy and Sekera for Nash.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

consider it done.

 

http://frissonic.net...f/darcyphan.jpg

 

:thumbsup: :clapping:

[Samson's Flow]

While I agree that winning a cup will take more than 1 offseason, we should all be clear that when the vault was opened up for DR last summer, he doubled down on his core group. Leino was the only forward brought in, and he was a complementary piece. None of the "core" got traded. Stafford got a fat extension on the back of one good contract year after several mediocre years. Roy was welcomed back to his top 6 spot. Pommer was made captain and the As all went to other "core" members. So instead of remaking the the team, DR chose to invest more time and at least one more season in the same group of losers that has accomplished exactly zero since they inherited the team from the prior leadership group.

 

It's certainly possible that this group will justify DR's faith in them. I'm not confident that it will happen but I'll be watching and hoping. And if it doesn't happen? Then at least 2 of Roy, Pommer, vanek and stafford need to be shipped out this summer (and they need to make GD sure that they win the Shea weber auction if it occurs). It probably should've happened last summer. DR chose not to do so, and when the results are in this spring he has to be accountable.

Winner.

 

In the offseason everyone was saying how great it will be to have DR without the shackles of cheap management/Larry Quinn/whatever else, but in the offseason where the team could have got anything, we got SOFTER and rewarded status quo. I am sick of watching this team give zero effort all game. The injuries are not an excuse when you don't give effort. You can have twenty Matt Ellis level players out there but they should still give a solid effort. I cannot stand watching this disinterested style of play. It comes from the core and the captains, and that hasn't changed.

 

Give me Boston over Buffalo any day.

 

Go Sabres. :bag:

[Ohiofan]

I was at the game last night. I'm still a bit shell-shocked. I saw what you saw on tv, only a little more expensively. We sat right behind the Sabres bench, next to a Pegula daughter. Kim and the boy child came and went, they seemed like nice folk.

 

Kassian reminded me of a Yeti.

 

Roy pouted the entire third period, banging his stick around the bench area and saying f**k a lot.

 

Ruff barely said a word.

 

No backcheck...they looked like they were sleepwalking out there.

 

Macintyre looked terrified at first. He settled down a bit after a while.

 

I still covet Nash.

 

Gerbe falls down a lot, and you know, I never really noticed before but last night I saw up close how much crap that kid takes on the ice. Opposing players are always smacking, pushing, shoving him around. He is easy to elbow in the face, given his size. He bounces off the ice and the players and just keeps on skating. Pretty tough little guy.

 

I don't have much else to say. I was kind of embarassed, as it was my Aunt's first NHL game and at one point she asked "Aren't they supposed to have some sort of puck control"?

 

Alot of Sabre fans at the game, a lot of empty seats. Columbus has almost given up on their team I think.

 

It was just bad. From start to finish, just bad. Although at one point, I believe at the start of the second, the Sabres had a little jump, we started to get excited, like..."this is it, they woke up"! but it only lasted about two minutes, then they fell asleep again.