Tyrannustyrannus Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Linky: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/bucky-gleason/article636478.ece I really hate "a little birdie told me" journalism. Pics or it didn't happen. This is just stirring up trouble in an already unhappy fan-base. If this is being discussed in another thread I apologize. If a player called out Miller anonymously or off the record to Bucky Gleason, he's a bigger baby than Miller could ever possibly be. Thats toxic locker-room cancer BS.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 One line from Bucky's article strikes a quirky composition note for me: "Rather than complain about players like Lucic, they should try acquiring players like Lucic. Based on the evidence, how can anyone argue?" Bucky begs the question based on the assumption... Who complained about players like Lucic? There was criticism directed at Lucic for making a specific unnecessary hit, but complaining about players like Lucic?
Weave Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Journalism feeds on sensationalism. Film at 11.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Journalism feeds on sensationalism. Film at 11. I'm not sure what the assumption is.....Lucic isn't necessarily trying to kill people out there even though he's a bull of man. I've seen him make some classy moves on the ice in terms of sportsmanship....the fight with McCormick in the playoffs (was it?)comes to mind. Lucic had Cody dead to rights and pulled his punches after pulling Cody back up. Lucic could have killed him. But the point was made. Of course I thought the hit on Miller Sat. was gratuitous, but Lucic isn't otherwise a cheap shot. He doesn't have to be.
bunomatic Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Journalism feeds on sensationalism. Film at 11. Agreed.
nbash Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 One line from Bucky's article strikes a quirky composition note for me: "Rather than complain about players like Lucic, they should try acquiring players like Lucic. Based on the evidence, how can anyone argue?" Bucky begs the question based on the assumption... Who complained about players like Lucic? There was criticism directed at Lucic for making a specific unnecessary hit, but complaining about players like Lucic? He's referring to Darcy and miller complaining. If Lucic's played for Buffalo, he'd be the most popular player on the team
LGR4GM Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 "First, I should thank the Sabres for allowing the media into their dressing room for a glimpse into their world after the game. The way Ryan Miller made it sound Tuesday, we have no idea what happens behind closed doors. Well, a little birdie told me Miller was near tears before the media arrived Saturday in Boston." - B. Gleason I made it this far and then realized that Gleason is a tool and stopped reading. Also they do not have a freaking clue what happens behind closed doors and Gleason is a troll and whiny little kid. This paragraph had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the column which after I calmed down I skimmed. Dear Bucky, Stop. Your hack journalism is not appreciated or worthy of this franchise. Here is a idea, stop writing this garbage and actually do some research and write something positive... If I had respect for you, this article made it evaporate faster than a drop of water on the sun. You are a whiny, immature child, who is upset that Miller didn't let you walk all over him and his teammates while standing in THEIR locker room as a guest. sincerely, Troll Hunters Anonymous
Weave Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I'm not sure what the assumption is.....Lucic isn't necessarily trying to kill people out there even though he's a bull of man. I've seen him make some classy moves on the ice in terms of sportsmanship....the fight with McCormick in the playoffs (was it?)comes to mind. Lucic had Cody dead to rights and pulled his punches after pulling Cody back up. Lucic could have killed him. But the point was made. Of course I thought the hit on Miller Sat. was gratuitous, but Lucic isn't otherwise a cheap shot. He doesn't have to be. My assumption is Bucky is doing his job writing articles that draw readership/hits. I think he is working with a bit of hyperbole. Like I said, film at 11. And he found an opportunity to toss some arrogance back at Miller. Bonus. Players never win battles with the press. I remember Looch letting up on Cody too. Mutual respect I figure.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 He's referring to Darcy and miller complaining. If Lucic's played for Buffalo, he'd be the most popular player on the team Darcy is usually pretty muted. Is it different from Ray Shero's lobbying? Miller has a brain injury......a concussion is a brain injury not a head injury. But good on you for raising the verbal accountability of a brain injured guy venting, Bucky. :beer:
waldo Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 The other option is for the Sabres to make some Lucics by employing the same secret eastern european training techniques used by Lucic and female olympic swimmers in the eighties.
LGR4GM Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 The other option is for the Sabres to make some Lucics by employing the same secret eastern european training techniques that Lucic probably uses. like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xHjC27YvM I wonder if Ennis or Gerbe would even top the snow drifts...
waldo Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 like this? I wonder if Ennis or Gerbe would even top the snow drifts... no ...more like this.. this is lucic in the post sabres game press conference
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 My assumption is Bucky is doing his job writing articles that draw readership/hits. I think he is working with a bit of hyperbole. Like I said, film at 11. And he found an opportunity to toss some arrogance back at Miller. Bonus. Players never win battles with the press. I remember Looch letting up on Cody too. Mutual respect I figure. I guess it is only in Buffalo that people would prefer a more demure and grovelling personality in goal. If I was a GM the first moment my goalie started apologizing to fans and teammates I would trade him. Barrasso, Roy, Hextall, Smith, Sawchuck.....all cocky as hell. I just don't get people deconstructing goalies.
K-9 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I guess it is only in Buffalo that people would prefer a more demure and grovelling personality in goal. If I was a GM the first moment my goalie started apologizing to fans and teammates I would trade him. Barrasso, Roy, Hextall, Smith, Sawchuck.....all cocky as hell. I just don't get people deconstructing goalies. Good point, X. They're a different breed. They have to be. GO SABRES!!!
bunomatic Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I guess it is only in Buffalo that people would prefer a more demure and grovelling personality in goal. If I was a GM the first moment my goalie started apologizing to fans and teammates I would trade him. Barrasso, Roy, Hextall, Smith, Sawchuck.....all cocky as hell. I just don't get people deconstructing goalies. The same goes on in Vancouver where they refer to it as a goalie graveyard. The part that riled me was Bucky saying a little birdy told him Miller was close to tears. Who the fukc cares Bucky. Newsflash, You don't cry you ain't human. I'm guessing Miller has more backbone than you'll ever have. He stops pucks. You stop the presses. Or you might be felled by a papercut. I'd take Miller into a battle any day over someone that goes by the moniker Bucky.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 The same goes on in Vancouver where they refer to it as a goalie graveyard. The part that riled me was Bucky saying a little birdy told him Miller was close to tears. Who the fukc cares Bucky. Newsflash, You don't cry you ain't human. I'm guessing Miller has more backbone than you'll ever have. He stops pucks. You stop the presses. Or you might be felled by a papercut. I'd take Miller into a battle any day over someone that goes by the moniker Bucky. Goalies are reincarnated elephants, that's why they dress like them.
HopefulFuture Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Just Bucky being Bucky, nothing to see here...move along folks B-)
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Postscript: I really do think Bucky is really good at his job, but occasionally he feels a need to defend the profession. What's the old line: Don't tell my mom I'm a sports journalist, she thinks I play piano in a brothel. ;)
Andrew Amerk Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Who is Bucky Gleason? Sounds like someone involved with Alabama grade school athletics.
RazielSabre Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Stupid ###### article, usual crap we get in the tabloids. No actual reporting or truth in the article. I've hated that turd for a while now and this is only fuel for the fire.
DumbPuck Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Postscript: I really do think Bucky is really good at his job, but occasionally he feels a need to defend the profession. What's the old line: Don't tell my mom I'm a sports journalist, she thinks I play piano in a brothel. ;) Wow .... I need to find a way to use that line myself. That's a gem.
LabattBlue Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Bucky writes that Miller was near tears before the media was admitted into the locker room after the Boston game. Why is that so unbelievable? I'd be upset too if I was Miller. Someone was quoted anonymously? Do you want to be the teammate that goes on record of what goes on behind closed doors? This is the same type of whining that takes place over at TSW every time Sully writes something negative about the Bills. NEWSFLASH... Bucky is a columnist. Columnists state their opinions. That is their job.
LastPommerFan Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I wonder if he was near tears because he had just been diagnosed with a concussion, and is now a "multiple-concussion" victim with a high likelihood of both recurrence and long term brain damage?
shrader Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I'm not sure what the assumption is.....Lucic isn't necessarily trying to kill people out there even though he's a bull of man. I've seen him make some classy moves on the ice in terms of sportsmanship....the fight with McCormick in the playoffs (was it?)comes to mind. Lucic had Cody dead to rights and pulled his punches after pulling Cody back up. Lucic could have killed him. But the point was made. Of course I thought the hit on Miller Sat. was gratuitous, but Lucic isn't otherwise a cheap shot. He doesn't have to be. I've seen the exact opposite from him far too often though. He'll jump into most hits (probably a culture of the game thing more than anything). He seems to continue punching downed opponents regularly. He's also one to celebrate post fight pretty often. There is zero respect in his game as far as I'm concerned. And as for Bucky, I really don't mind him, but each time I read one of his columns, I miss Jim Kelley even more. I could draw the parallel to all of our goalies of the past 10 years, stepping into the shoes of a legend.
nfreeman Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Linky: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/bucky-gleason/article636478.ece I really hate "a little birdie told me" journalism. Pics or it didn't happen. This is just stirring up trouble in an already unhappy fan-base. If this is being discussed in another thread I apologize. If a player called out Miller anonymously or off the record to Bucky Gleason, he's a bigger baby than Miller could ever possibly be. Thats toxic locker-room cancer BS. I didn't have a problem with Bucky writing about the teammate's remarks. Bottom line IMHO is that one of Miller's teammates saying stuff like that to a reporter is newsworthy. I didn't really like the "lip was quivering" statement. I thought it was a cheap shot, pretty subjective and basically neither here nor there. I did have a problem with the teammate saying what he said, and I agree 100% with the bolded part. I've seen the exact opposite from him far too often though. He'll jump into most hits (probably a culture of the game thing more than anything). He seems to continue punching downed opponents regularly. He's also one to celebrate post fight pretty often. There is zero respect in his game as far as I'm concerned. And as for Bucky, I really don't mind him, but each time I read one of his columns, I miss Jim Kelley even more. I could draw the parallel to all of our goalies of the past 10 years, stepping into the shoes of a legend. I thought Jim Kelley was well overrated and quite a blowhard.
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