donteatyellowsnow Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 If the price is right, yes, I would trade him. I would dump him for picks or waive him, but if the return was for a good player or couple of players, he is definitly tradeable. There are few players on this team (if any) that I would say are off the trading block for the right price, and it has nothing to do with recent play or the standings. I don't think that Roy is all that special that he is worthy of being off the table, but he is a good player that shouldn't be given away. I have wanted to see the Sabres make a deal to get Foligno from Ottawa in some sort of deal, don't know what it would take, but with his dad a former Sabre and his brother coming up soon, it would be cool to see them together with the Sabres Ooooh! The Foligno brothers and Kassian line. That would be fun to watch.
Iron Crotch Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Roy leads all Sabres forwards in ice time. He plays in all situations. He's our only proven scorer at the center position. He's had 8 points in his last 5 games and he pretty much single handedly brought us back against the Habs in the third period on Monday. Yes, he had a tough one yesterday but to echo the sentiments from above, why must we have a "get rid of him" thread every time a guy has a bad game?
buftex Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I have never really understood all the hate people have for Roy. Admittedly, he looks like a smug little prick sometimes, and I am aware, that there has long been rumored friction between him and some teammates...but, when he is on the ice, he performs, and under-performs no more or less than most of his teammates. This team cannot afford to give up goal scorers, just becase they may be jerks. I don't care if he shoots a lot, as long as he scores frequently. Despite how you feel about him, you can't deny, when he has been healthy, the guy has produced offensively.
Chirpin Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 I have never really understood all the hate people have for Roy. Admittedly, he looks like a smug little prick sometimes, and I am aware, that there has long been rumored friction between him and some teammates...but, when he is on the ice, he performs, and under-performs no more or less than most of his teammates. This team cannot afford to give up goal scorers, just becase they may be jerks. I don't care if he shoots a lot, as long as he scores frequently. Despite how you feel about him, you can't deny, when he has been healthy, the guy has produced offensively. He can produce. When there is a smug little prick like Roy there is tension and it is horrible for chemistry. as for his point production he wasnt doing much of anything till Vanek and Pom were in the picture... if he was so talented and a true number one center he would make the players around him better, instead of needing players to make him better.
korab rules Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 He can produce. When there is a smug little prick like Roy there is tension and it is horrible for chemistry. as for his point production he wasnt doing much of anything till Vanek and Pom were in the picture... if he was so talented and a true number one center he would make the players around him better, instead of needing players to make him better. Maybe because they all came into the league at the same time? Ditch our perennial scoring leader because you think he's a smug little prick based on what you see on TV? That is ignorant. You are making baseless accusations out of whatever uninformed impressions you have formed in your head. Maybe you should pipe down, look at some statistics, and come back when you have something to support this ridiculous rant you are on. Just because the girl who won't give you the time of day has a picture of Roy in her locker doesn't mean the Sabres should trade him.
Chirpin Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 Maybe because they all came into the league at the same time? Ditch our perennial scoring leader because you think he's a smug little prick based on what you see on TV? That is ignorant. You are making baseless accusations out of whatever uninformed impressions you have formed in your head. Maybe you should pipe down, look at some statistics, and come back when you have something to support this ridiculous rant you are on. Just because the girl who won't give you the time of day has a picture of Roy in her locker doesn't mean the Sabres should trade him. Easy killer.. atleast now I know who you have a picture of in your locker.. it rhymes with boy
korab rules Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Easy killer.. atleast now I know who you have a picture of in your locker.. it rhymes with boy :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: Thanks for proving my point.
Samson's Flow Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Easy killer.. atleast now I know who you have a picture of in your locker.. it rhymes with boy Top 5 for best comebacks ever. It has to be. :doh:
korab rules Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I hate this thread It would certainly be in the running for the worst thread of the year award.
qwksndmonster Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I'll try to steer this in a productive direction: I think the OP might be on to something when he says he doesn't like Roy playing with Vanek and Pommer. A lot of other stuff he said sounded very contrived and opinionated, so I'll leave that stuff alone. I like VAP better than I like VRP because I've never liked the way Roy and Vanek play together. I think that Vanek has shown that he is one of the most dangerous scoring threats on our team, and he did it without Roy on the most part. Roy is a good offensive center with plenty of skill, but he definitely has more of a shoot first mentality. I think the guys you want to put around Vanek are Adam and Pommer because Adam is a good physical presence, and Pommer is a great passer and a good shooter (always buries tip ins). The other reason I like VAP better is because having Roy on the second line really spreads out our skill. Roy was producing incredibly well without Vanek and Pommer, and I don't think it helps Adam's development to be switching line mates often. I'm perfectly fine with giving VRP a couple more games together as a chance make me eat my words (and to play like they did in the 3rd period of the Habs game consistently), but I feel like VAP is a better line in the long run.
waldo Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Roy leads all Sabres forwards in ice time. He plays in all situations. He's our only proven scorer at the center position. He's had 8 points in his last 5 games and he pretty much single handedly brought us back against the Habs in the third period on Monday. Yes, he had a tough one yesterday but to echo the sentiments from above, why must we have a "get rid of him" thread every time a guy has a bad game? I do not think i have ever said get rid of him.
waldo Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I hate this thread No need for you or Korab to read it..this being America and all :rolleyes:
james duncan Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Let me see if I understand this. The Sabres have one legitimate offensive threat at center. And you want to trade him away. Brilliant!
waldo Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Let me see if I understand this. The Sabres have one legitimate offensive threat at center. And you want to trade him away. Brilliant! everybody on the team is on the trading block for the right price..
james duncan Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 and can you provide a quote where someone on this string said that? I looked at the title of the thread and made the inference...
waldo Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I looked at the title of the thread and made the inference... sorry james ..you caught the post before i changed the wording...the title is misleading ...but i do not think anybody here thinks roy should go. unless the price is right and that is true of everybody
james duncan Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 sorry james ..you caught the post before i changed the wording...the title is misleading ...but i do not think anybody here thinks roy should go. unless the price is right and that is true of everybody No problem. Unless the Sabres are getting a #1 and a #2 center out of the deal somehow, I don't know how the Sabres can consider moving Roy though. Years of stockpiling d-men in the draft and having center prospects fail have left the cupboards bare.
waldo Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 No problem. Unless the Sabres are getting a #1 and a #2 center out of the deal somehow, I don't know how the Sabres can consider moving Roy though. Years of stockpiling d-men in the draft and having center prospects fail have left the cupboards bare. I don't think you really can either,,he just needs his own fetch and retrieve line. He is an effective shoot frst center..good on the pk.not the one pp .My problem,like others ,is putting him on the one line. You need atleast two lines with a remote chance to score.
deluca67 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 No problem. Unless the Sabres are getting a #1 and a #2 center out of the deal somehow, I don't know how the Sabres can consider moving Roy though. Years of stockpiling d-men in the draft and having center prospects fail have left the cupboards bare. Great trades are about timing. Taking advantage of a situation is key. Which is why the Sabres should look at a team like the 'Canes and make an offer for Eric Staal. Things are not going well for him this season and the 'Canes have many holes to fill. Offer Roy, a young blueliner and maybe pick or another player off of the roster. It all depends on the mindset of 'Canes at this point. If they are thinking shakeup, the Sabres need to be the team taking advantage of it. This could be another Nathan Horton type opportunity.
LGR4GM Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Should we trade roy if the price is right? only if he is the next contestant.
X. Benedict Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Great trades are about timing. Taking advantage of a situation is key. Which is why the Sabres should look at a team like the 'Canes and make an offer for Eric Staal. Things are not going well for him this season and the 'Canes have many holes to fill. Offer Roy, a young blueliner and maybe pick or another player off of the roster. It all depends on the mindset of 'Canes at this point. If they are thinking shakeup, the Sabres need to be the team taking advantage of it. This could be another Nathan Horton type opportunity. Moving Staal would be career suicide for Jim Rutherford. Even though Staal is having a poor start, he's their best skater, most popular player, and fills the building (well at least half of it). No way he's moved unless it brings back a marquee player bigger than him. That's a short list.
james duncan Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Great trades are about timing. Taking advantage of a situation is key. Which is why the Sabres should look at a team like the 'Canes and make an offer for Eric Staal. Things are not going well for him this season and the 'Canes have many holes to fill. Offer Roy, a young blueliner and maybe pick or another player off of the roster. It all depends on the mindset of 'Canes at this point. If they are thinking shakeup, the Sabres need to be the team taking advantage of it. This could be another Nathan Horton type opportunity. I was actually thinkng about how they could try to get Staal from the canes yesterday. I'd bank on him coming around again and perhaps a change of scenery could assist him. My scenario never included Roy though. If you did include Roy and Staal didn't return to form, season over. Would be an awfully gutsy move. Wonder if Darcy is secure enough (or maybe insecure enough?) to make such an attempt. I'd love to see that guy in a Sabre sweater.
james duncan Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Moving Staal would be career suicide for Jim Rutherford. Even though Staal is having a poor start, he's their best skater, most popular player, and fills the building (well at least half of it). No way he's moved unless it brings back a marquee player bigger than him. That's a short list. Maybe, maybe not. Skinner is quickly taking that team over. But his size makes getting some size in return for the Canes a necessity I'd guess if they would consider moving Staal. Not exactly the Sabres strength.
RazielSabre Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Ok Since this is about Roy I have a thought. Why was Roy put on the top line when he was working quite well with Stafford? That gives us one good line and one scrap line as opposed to two good lines, which seemed to work over our short winning streak.
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